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Old 04-18-2016, 12:36 PM   #21
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How many more movies are the current actors willing to be around for? Certainly RDJ is going to retire as Iron man soon. I think the Marvel movie universe will end within the next few years, especially if all their key actors don't want to return or do it anymore.

Its also not as simple as recasting The Hulk, you can't replace Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, etc. as easily.
Yeah, not the same at all. RDJ is like the face of the MCU, and Iron Man is the flagship character. Nothing would be lamer than quietly recasting him between movies.
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Old 04-18-2016, 12:37 PM   #22
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Marvel's already said, by way of Feige and possibly even Downey, that they will indeed go the Bond route. Makes more sense, honestly.
Source? That'll be interesting when it happens, I guess.
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Old 04-18-2016, 12:42 PM   #23
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Source? That'll be interesting when it happens, I guess.
I've read it a few times, but I'm not gonna even try to find those old articles. Try going through Screenrant's archives... that's where I read most of my movie news articles.
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Old 04-18-2016, 12:57 PM   #24
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How many more movies are the current actors willing to be around for? Certainly RDJ is going to retire as Iron man soon. I think the Marvel movie universe will end within the next few years, especially if all their key actors don't want to return or do it anymore.

Its also not as simple as recasting The Hulk, you can't replace Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, etc. as easily.
Yes you can lol. That's like saying you can't recast Wolverine because Hugh Jackman perfected that role but it's going to happen eventually. Actors playing the same role time after time can get stale and boring after a while.
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Old 04-18-2016, 01:56 PM   #25
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Nobody will care about Iron Man after RDJ retires. He'll go back to being a third tier hero nobody knows about.
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Old 04-18-2016, 01:59 PM   #26
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Nobody will care about Iron Man after RDJ retires. He'll go back to being a third tier hero nobody knows about.
Pretty sure a lotta people said the same about Batman. Or Professor X. Or Hulk. Well, not necessarily the "third tier" bit.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:02 PM   #27
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The Avengers were all nobodies outside of comic book fans. Spiderman and the X-men were the only really popular Marvel superheroes until these movies came out.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:03 PM   #28
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Why would RDJ want to retire? He gets $40 million plus backend profits to make quips and have a suit CGI'd on him.

If they are making a movie with a young Han Solo that isn't Ford then they can reboot the Iron Man franchise without RDJ at some point down the line. People love the Iron Man character now - not just RDJ playing him.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:12 PM   #29
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RDJ has a huge fanbase, bigger than Iron Man himself.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:16 PM   #30
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The Avengers were all nobodies outside of comic book fans. Spiderman and the X-men were the only really popular Marvel superheroes until these movies came out.
....Really?

Iron-Man- maybe (unless you watched the earlier cartoons, especially Spider-Man: The Animated Series or his own 90's show)

Ant-Man- agreed

Hulk- highly disagree, he's had his movie before MCU, the Bill Bixby show, and several cartoons as well

Captain America- the name is known, but people aren't familiar. Kind of a mixture of some know while others don't.

Black Widow- agree

Wasp- agree

I might not be a comic reader, but a portion of the Avengers are identifiable from cartoons, the average to bad direct to DVD films, or in Hulk's case, a show people remember. Even with the obscure United They Stand, a show based on the West Coast Avengers aimed for toy merchandise, a good portion are known to the public even before the MCU came along.
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I was always aware who they were in the 90's, but I never cared to see anything of them. Until the movies. 90's fans are different than 2000's fans.

Spiderman and X-men were popular in the 90's because of the cartoons. As was Batman.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:36 PM   #32
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Why would RDJ want to retire? He gets $40 million plus backend profits to make quips and have a suit CGI'd on him.
It's not that he wants to retire... it's that Marvel probably -- very understandably -- doesn't want to continue paying him more and more amounts of money than God with every new appearance.
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It's not that he wants to retire... it's that Marvel probably -- very understandably -- doesn't want to continue paying him more and more amounts of money than God with every new appearance.
This right here.
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RDJ has a huge fanbase, bigger than Iron Man himself.
I don't agree with this. After years of drug issues, RDJ became relevant again in the public eye after playing Tony Stark. He has grown in popularity since that time just as the Iron Man character has. It's been a mutually beneficial relationship for RDJ and Marvel.
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I don't agree with this. After years of drug issues, RDJ became relevant again in the public eye after playing Tony Stark. He has grown in popularity since that time just as the Iron Man character has. It's been a mutually beneficial relationship for RDJ and Marvel.
So far since coming back, he's played Tony Stark, British Tony Stark (Sherlock Holmes), and nothing else that huge. Tropic Thunder, sure it's funny. The Soloist was gut-wrenching but I doubt any of you have seen it.

Face it, RDJ plays Tony Stark and doesn't really have a hell of a lot else going on. How many of you went and saw The Judge? I didn't. RDJ needs to film Sherlock Holmes 3 for me.
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RDJ needs to film Sherlock Holmes 3 for me.
They're apparently working on a script for that.
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They're apparently working on a script for that.
They've been working on that script for about as long as I've been married.
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Nobody will care about Iron Man after RDJ retires. He'll go back to being a third tier hero nobody knows about.
I bet you said nobody would care about Batman anymore after the Clooney film and...well...
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Old 04-18-2016, 04:41 PM   #39
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Batman was always popular in cartoons regardless of the movies. The Avengers were largely unknown outside of comic book fans to your average person back then.

Batman is the #1 most popular superhero and he's always been around. Back in 1997 when Batman and Robin came out in theaters, the Batman: TNBA cartoon was airing on TV and having crossovers with Superman: TAS.
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Iron Man has pretty much reached that level now so saying no one will care about the character when RDJ hangs it up isn't accurate. The character is an A-lister now.
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