The Flash tv series on CW

[TLP]

I loved how creepy Barry looked with the Time Wraith was rotting his body.

[Splinter the boss]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

As far as Zoom, I think there's going to be some sort of double involved... Otherwise they really screw up Jay... And that would suck. Anyways. It will be back in a couple weeks and then just a few episodes til the end of this season.

I'm still expecting the doppelganger mix into all of it, it would be better. If not, then Caitlin is a cursed woman.

[Autbot_Benz]

friendly reminder Flash is back tonight. We get the backstory on Zoom

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

If they throw in one more bloody hiatus, I will rage-quit the show.

Clip from tonight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9myuTV_PlQ

So Harry and Barry reopen the breaches? Probably not the best idea.

Tonight will be the info dump on who Zoom is, but still not answer the question of who is the man in the metal mask... they've said that won't be answered until the finale.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

If they throw in one more bloody hiatus, I will rage-quit the show.

Clip from tonight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9myuTV_PlQ

So Harry and Barry reopen the breaches? Probably not the best idea.

Tonight will be the info dump on who Zoom is, but still not answer the question of who is the man in the metal mask... they've said that won't be answered until the finale.

This show's Hiatuses are just as bad as Nick TMNT

[Slade]

This was a great ep, it just confused the hell out of me..

[Splinter the boss]

Zoom is now the fastest man alive. Seriously, I have no idea how they're gonna stop him. I guess Cisco could be of use, but the way Reverb was killed by zoom on earth 2 says otherwise. We'll just have to see.

[TurtleTitan97]

Man oh man, now that was a real epic episode!!!

[mrmaczaps]

For tonight's episode, I'm wondering how zoom could open his own breech... one minute he is on earth 1 with Wally and next, he's in his hideout on E2... same with the end of the episode... it's not explained, at all.

I have a new theory about the man in the iron mask... it's Ronnie Raymond. He got sucked into the vortex and zoom shackled him... it's a bit of a stretch and not likely the same actor if it turns out to be him, at least until the finale... a way to have him but not.

[Slade]

Couple other things.

How does this time remnant stuff work?

Is there a real Jay? or Since Reverse Flash knew who the helmet belonged to at the end of season 1, did he know it was Zoom or did he think it was Jay if there actually is a Jay.

Earth 2 Wells knows who Zolomon is. It kind of seemed like he also knew Zolomon is Zoom, or was he just guessing at the story?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I don't understand how everybody here loved last night's episode; I thought it was crap.

Why on earths would Barry give up his speed? Does nobody remember that his whole motivation is that he won't leave an entire earth prey to an evil speedster? Who exactly does he think will protect Earth-1 if he loses his speed and why does NOBODY voice that concern?

Also, Barry's faster than Zoom, right? So as soon as Zoom releases Wally, Barry just... keeps his promise to surrender?

Bullsh!t. CW shows suck. Thank God for Netflix and Marvel.

[NinjaPug]

Glad I wasn't the only one that didn't like last nights episode. The way they executed the ending was very poorly written and made no sense. Maybe we'll see there was more to their plan in the next episode but I doubt it.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Also, Barry's faster than Zoom, right? So as soon as Zoom releases Wally, Barry just... keeps his promise to surrender?

Ugh. So much this.

There's a big difference between heroes being people of their word and promises that don't deserve to be made or honored.

The only logical concern that came to my mind was that Barry was worried Zoom would kill another member of the Star Labs team in an open conflict. But, I mean... it's not like playing along until Zoom gets a monopoly on the Speed Force is any safer.

BTW, in my memories of 1990s Flash comics, I don't remember "Speed Force" being anything akin to a biological residue that could be extracted or infused into a person as easily as a blood transfusion. I thought it was way more mystic... kinda like how the Star Wars Force used to be before midiclorians came around. How appropriate that Cisco dropped that reference!

Can anybody clarify that for me?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Ugh. So much this.

There's a big difference between heroes being people of their word and promises that don't deserve to be made or honored.

The only logical concern that came to my mind was that Barry was worried Zoom would kill another member of the Star Labs team in an open conflict. But, I mean... it's not like playing along until Zoom gets a monopoly on the Speed Force is any safer.

BTW, in my memories of 1990s Flash comics, I don't remember "Speed Force" being anything akin to a biological residue that could be extracted or infused into a person as easily as a blood transfusion. I thought it was way more mystic... kinda like how the Star Wars Force used to be before midiclorians came around. How appropriate that Cisco dropped that reference!

Can anybody clarify that for me?

That is correct; every Flash comic I've read portrays the Speed Force as more more akin to the Star Wars Force. Mystical and even CHOOSING people, not just being this channel of hyperspeed energy that apparently can be bottled. "Lightning in a Bottle" indeed.

I did love the Cisco stuff in this episode... probably the highlight for me.

[ZariusTwo]

Mark Waid hated the episode

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Mark Waid hated the episode

I guess when you're that connected, you'd feel the same.

If I thought for even a second that the show won't be revealing a TRUE Jay Garrick that Zoom replaced, I'd probably be a little heated over the issue, too.

But I think most of us agree the man in the mask is undoubtedly the real Jay Garrick. Who, hopefully, is not played by Teddy Sears. (That's not a knock against the actor, BTW, just my hope that they don't give us some BS identical twins crap.)

[Splinter the boss]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

For tonight's episode, I'm wondering how zoom could open his own breech... one minute he is on earth 1 with Wally and next, he's in his hideout on E2... same with the end of the episode... it's not explained, at all.

I thought about that too, and I think it's the breach Cisco opened.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Splinter the boss

I thought about that too, and I think it's the breach Cisco opened.

Yeah, that particular issue seems pretty obvious. We never see Cisco close the breach, because Barry immediately whisks him out of Zoom's line of attack. They never have time to close it after.

[Autbot_Benz]

also those times Barry ran super fast and look like he disappeared I think that is when he went to Supergirl's world. As he had that chest thing on when he was on Supergirl.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Yeah, that particular issue seems pretty obvious. We never see Cisco close the breach, because Barry immediately whisks him out of Zoom's line of attack. They never have time to close it after.

A friend said the same... But when Zoom shows up at STAR, he basically just appears with Wally... It didn't look like he had run into the room... I guess it just needed to be a bit more clear...