Batman/Superman Dawn of Justice movie review thread

[CyberCubed]

The only characters I remember Batman killing was when he was in his plane shooting missiles at some soldiers down below. As far as I remember he never killed anyone else. The dream sequence in the desert had Batman shooting people but it wasn't real.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by sdp

I mean I don't like having so many movies announced at once, do we really need a Cyborg origin? Or an Aquaman movie?

Um, yes, yes he does. Unlike Victor Stone, Aquaman is one of the original founding members of the League, and despite all the jokes made at his expense most fans haven't considered him to be "lame" in years.

Cyborg is the only DC hero who doesn't need a solo movie.

[Commenter 42]

So, finally saw this thing.

I'll admit, not what I was expecting. I hated MOS, as I've said billions of times. This wasn't as bad; it was something else entirely. The title makes no sense at all. should have been

Batman V Superman: Infinite contempt.

Snyder hates everyone, and apparently thinks it's because we've lost our faith in God. Everything is a f*cking theological monologue, with half baked pseudo-science. There isn't a single like-able character, except for possibly Alfred. Amy Adams, maybe.

Bollocks.

Forget the critics, who wants to watch this more than once?

The opening sequence was pretty cool, well shot, exciting; if that had been the speed and energy of the whole film, maybe you'd have something.

Overall, better than Man of Steel, but only by a slim margin; Snyder needs to see a shrink.

[Spike Spiegel]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

So, finally saw this thing.

There isn't a single like-able character, except for possibly Alfred. Amy Adams, maybe.

Bollocks.

Forget the critics, who wants to watch this more than once?

The opening sequence was pretty cool, well shot, exciting; if that had been the speed and energy of the whole film, maybe you'd have something.

Overall, better than Man of Steel, but only by a slim margin; Snyder needs to see a shrink.

I'll be watching it quite a few times in the near future, if for no other reason but to analyze the upcoming director's cut and to see Amy Adams' brilliant ensemble performance alongside Cavill and that talented bathtub.

[Commenter 42]

That scene was the definition of awkward; first he's irresponsible in the desert, then he causes thousands in water damage to her bathroom.

[ToTheNines]

Fans are sending death threats to critics who didn't like the movie...


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman...ritics-a140871

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Fans are sending death threats to critics who didn't like the movie...


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman...ritics-a140871

Unbelievable.

[CyberCubed]

Doesn't this kind of stuff happen all the time, to comic book writers, TV show writers, etc? We just don't always see it reported.

There are always people stupid enough to post angry hate mail to writers when things don't go their way in shows/movies/comics, etc. Especially shippers, all those female shippers go through mental breakdowns if their favored couple doesn't get together.

[DarkLightDragon]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Fans are sending death threats to critics who didn't like the movie...


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman...ritics-a140871

Sounds like these fans took a page or two from this movie in being overly aggressive.


But seriously, that is always messed up. Regardless of which fandom we're talking about here.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

So, finally saw this thing.

I'll admit, not what I was expecting. I hated MOS, as I've said billions of times. This wasn't as bad; it was something else entirely. The title makes no sense at all. should have been

Batman V Superman: Infinite contempt.

Snyder hates everyone, and apparently thinks it's because we've lost our faith in God. Everything is a f*cking theological monologue, with half baked pseudo-science. There isn't a single like-able character, except for possibly Alfred. Amy Adams, maybe.

Bollocks.

Forget the critics, who wants to watch this more than once?

The opening sequence was pretty cool, well shot, exciting; if that had been the speed and energy of the whole film, maybe you'd have something.

Overall, better than Man of Steel, but only by a slim margin; Snyder needs to see a shrink.

Finally took the plunge, eh? Yeah, it's not Man of Steel bad, but as I've said, that's literally saying its not the worst movie in the world.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by DarkLightDragon

Sounds like these fans took a page or two from this movie in being overly aggressive.


But seriously, that is always messed up. Regardless of which fandom we're talking about here.

Hell hath no fury like a butthurt fanboy.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Doesn't this kind of stuff happen all the time, to comic book writers, TV show writers, etc? We just don't always see it reported.

There are always people stupid enough to post angry hate mail to writers when things don't go their way in shows/movies/comics, etc. Especially shippers, all those female shippers go through mental breakdowns if their favored couple doesn't get together.

Y'know, Cubed, it's not JUST "shippers" who have meltdowns over characters. (And please stop generalizing ALL of us shippers under one umbrella- it's insulting to those of us who are "light shippers" or to use your favorite term, "casual" shippers.) I know for a fact that some of the WORST cases of fans sending death threats happened to R.A. Salvatore after he wrote Vector Prime, and fans of Star Wars sent threats in his mail for killing off Chewbacca. Never mind that he has written over 25 best-selling Forgotten Realms fantasy novels- he will forever be known as the man who killed Chewie. In print. (Of course, the "new" universe nullified that, but that doesn't mean it was erased from all memory- just continuity....)

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Finally took the plunge, eh? Yeah, it's not Man of Steel bad, but as I've said, that's literally saying its not the worst movie in the world.

I was very surprised, because the trailers looked like it would be much of the same. I didn't feel that the story was as poorly constructed, the way MOS was, and the editing/composition/action sequences were more natural; but man, Batman was written like a meat head. Every line landed wrong. Affleck has the screen presence of Batman, but he's not suave. He has none of the hallmarks of a rich kid. He walks around like a footballer in a suit.

I hate Gotham, but the kid in Gotham plays Bruce Wayne well, the best live action Wayne to date, in my opinion. Quiet, considerate, contrary, pained...the writing is awful, but that kid brings it to life better than most could.

But yeah, I had a free pass. All the theological gobeldygook... who the hell buys into any of that garbage? Imagine if they made the next Batman movie strictly about the divide of the wealthy and the poor, and how the Wayne's screwed over the working class, were involved in off-shore tax evasion, involved in oil and maybe the cotton industry, and now that he's a billionaire, he goes out at night and beats on the little guy who has nothing, because his family came from nothing, and is forced into a life of crime. What if the subplot was subprime mortgages, and Wayne has to face the people in court whose homes were taken from them, while he received a bailout?

I mean, that's realism, but is that The Batman?

Like that in no way, was any of that Superman. I spent a few hours watching Obama speak this morning on Skynews ... You know what? That's a GD Superman, or the closest thing in real life to it. He's pretty amazing, and a real life hero. I was inspired, and immediately began thinking of the upcoming election, and how sad it will be when he's gone, the void he'll leave.

Spoiler:

When Cavill died (Not my superman so, tough tukas) I didn't care. I felt nothing, except wishing Doomsday had been given his original backstory, and that we could get the final version, not an evolving version...but Supes was dead, and it didn't care. When prime died, in the Bay movie, I cared. I was more emotional in a MBay movie!!! Somethings wrong here...

I'd give it 60% as a generic actioner. I can't give it anything as a CBM, for fear of making it angry, by calling it a CBM. I can't love it, until it learns to love itself.

[Luigiperps]

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGtiinR6ni8
Is it too much to ask to have a live action Superman like this? Or has the world become so cynical that a good person who helps others because it's the right thing to do is unrealistic?

[TonySiegel]

Originally Posted by Luigiperps

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGtiinR6ni8
Is it too much to ask to have a live action Superman like this? Or has the world become so cynical that a good person who helps others because it's the right thing to do is unrealistic?

that was deep man...

[NinjaPug]

Every fanbase has it's lunatics but I've never seen anything compare to these BvS and DC fanatics.

[Spike Spiegel]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Every fanbase has it's lunatics but I've never seen anything compare to these BvS and DC fanatics.

Then I have three words for you:

"Han shot first!"

[CyberCubed]

Star Wars fans can be insane.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Then I have three words for you:

"Han shot first!"

Arguing about changes made to original cuts is not the same as sending death threats to critics that don't like a movie.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Like that in no way, was any of that Superman. I spent a few hours watching Obama speak this morning on Skynews ... You know what? That's a GD Superman, or the closest thing in real life to it.

Someone had to inspire Calvin Ellis, after all.

That's kind of the problem with trying to take the "super" out of Superman. The deconstructionist angle just doesn't work here. Turning him into someone more selfish, immature, and full of doubt takes away from who he is. Superman's supposed to inspire us all to do better, to fight fear with hope, to believe in a better way. A Superman who gives into brutality ain't Superman. And that right there's the reason Snyderman has been such a controversial and divisive interpretation.

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Then I have three words for you:

"Han shot first!"

I mean, it's just chronologically true.