This is how I think Irma is useful.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

But she was planned to be human in the first place, and Ciro and Auman hinted that they might bring her back

Ciro also said we'd get the story of how Raph got that crack on his plastron. What's your point?

And when the heck was it ever stated Irma was originally planned to be human in this show???

[neatoman]

Like a lot of their statemenats, I'm gonna have to call ******** on that.

The statement about Irma originally being human involved them changing their minds after getting feedback from viewers, but one of the earliest storyboards shown from that season was from Pizza Face, so chances are that the finale was already in production before season 2 aired.

And even if they did say they were thinking of bringing back a human version of the character, they clearly went with another Utrom instead.

[Utrommaniac]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

It's still not known if there is a human Irma who the Kraang later decided to disguise at. A Kraang inside a robot would for example smash the Ratking's cage.

There was a disguise to keep up.
But one should also remember when Irma was at a control panel in the very same episode and "accidentally" killed a bunch of rats.

Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

But she was planned to be human in the first place, and Ciro and Auman hinted that they might bring her back

They did bring Irma back...as Rook. Rook is the best anyone is going to get for a "real" Irma.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

But she was planned to be human in the first place, and Ciro and Auman hinted that they might bring her back

LET IT GO!

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

But she was planned to be human in the first place, and Ciro and Auman hinted that they might bring her back

no they didn't she is a shell for the utrom GET OVER IT

[IndigoErth]

I feel like this thread started already in the middle of a conversation...


Anyhow. It would have been interesting to see how this Irma played out as a human character, but I like the clever twist they added by bringing Utrom into it with a good one being the original Irma android owner, and presumably a female Utrom alongside Queen. Surely we'll be seeing them again as the Turtles continue to try to get rid of the Kraang.

[shredder orokusaki]

The question now is why Rook decided to make a robot that looks like a human teenage girl if she didnt know how human girls look like? Where did she took the idea of Irma robot apperance? Rook must have see some girls on earth and decided to create a robot that looks like one of them.

[Utrommaniac]

And why she just happens to have two bodies that are just slightly different colors from each other. Unless she built the second one after Subprime stole the first.

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, I've wondered about that as well, why they look human. Would have made sense if they were all on Earth at one point and the Utroms broke off and left when the Kraang went bad, but not sure that is, or even could be, the case if the Kraang came already with the intention of mutating Earth to their needs.

(Although the somewhat malfunctioning French stereotype android has me more confused. lol)


If Nick wants to just really twist it up further... bring the Utrom to Earth, have it turn out that Rook is indeed female and young as far as Utrom aging goes, and make it that she's genetically related to the alien part of April, so now April and Utrom Irma/Rook can be BFFs. lol

[ticktack]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Yeah, I've wondered about that as well, why they look human. Would have made sense if they were all on Earth at one point and the Utroms broke off and left when the Kraang went bad, but not sure that is, or even could be, the case if the Kraang came already with the intention of mutating Earth to their needs.

(Although the somewhat malfunctioning French stereotype android has me more confused. lol)


If Nick wants to just really twist it up further... bring the Utrom to Earth, have it turn out that Rook is indeed female and young as far as Utrom aging goes, and make it that she's genetically related to the alien part of April, so now April and Utrom Irma/Rook can be BFFs. lol

No, relatives.

[ticktack]

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

The question now is why Rook decided to make a robot that looks like a human teenage girl if she didnt know how human girls look like? Where did she took the idea of Irma robot apperance? Rook must have see some girls on earth and decided to create a robot that looks like one of them.

Uuu-huh. ``

[Utrommaniac]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

If Nick wants to just really twist it up further... bring the Utrom to Earth, have it turn out that Rook is indeed female and young as far as Utrom aging goes, and make it that she's genetically related to the alien part of April, so now April and Utrom Irma/Rook can be BFFs. lol

I am down for that so hard

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

The question now is why Rook decided to make a robot that looks like a human teenage girl if she didnt know how human girls look like? Where did she took the idea of Irma robot apperance? Rook must have see some girls on earth and decided to create a robot that looks like one of them.

The Kraang claimed to have arrived on Earth using their mutagen on monkeys speeding up evolution millions of years ago. Maybe just something they said, but they still seem to know much of Earth and humanity.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I'm afraid you're going to have to face the fact that Irma in this series is indeed a robotic suit for the Utrom/Kraang. There really is no need to look further into this. She was never real and will never be in human form. This show is different from the OT and she really won't add anything to the series at this point.

[KrN]

It is a shame that Irma doesn't really exist. I liked her character a lot and April definitely deserves a good girlfriend (ahem, Karai, your turn) but I do agree that she definitely added some good representation for teenage girls.

At times I really want more female characters on the show since there's a severe lack of them; they either become mutated or are one-off's like Tang-Shen/April's mum, but I really rather they don't if all female characters are going to be resorted to love interests. Mona would have been a hell of a lot more interesting as a female warrior that didn't fall in love so quickly. I blame the lack of build-up for that.

High hopes for Gwendoline Yeo's character! She has scenes with Karai and Shredder, so I'm very much looking forward to her (:

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Since this is a well-known TMNT forum, there is some chance producers are reading here right now, notice all complainments and decide to introduce a human Irma.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

But she was planned to be human in the first place, and Ciro and Auman hinted that they might bring her back

Source?

I refuse to believe without evidence.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Source?

I refuse to believe without evidence.

If she'd been planned to be a Kraang, it would probably happen earlier.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Since this is a well-known TMNT forum, there is some chance producers are reading here right now, notice all complainments and decide to introduce a human Irma.

Don't be foolish. First off, they already know about the vocal minority, but that's what y'all are; a minority. Secondly, they're hounded about it all the God-damn time on Instagram, & that is exactly why she has been made out to be a mere robot, not once, but twice. 'Cause y'all are annoying as hell & deserve a bait & switch.

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

Irma was only ever a disguise, and as much as that sucks, that's just the way it happened. Tumblring around that twist is not going to change that.

That's a damn shame.

The show could have used another female character.