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Old 04-30-2016, 02:05 PM   #101
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It wasn't an accident. They've said we'll actually know about the characters before the movie debuts this time because Jar Jar Abrams isn't running the show.
That "mystery box" sh*t works great for TV shows, but for film, it interferes with good and proper storytelling.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:14 PM   #102
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That "mystery box" sh*t works great for TV shows, but for film, it interferes with good and proper storytelling.
Yep. It doesn't help that all jj is used to is early 2000s tv shows, which explains why all his movies look as un-cinematic as possible. TFA had some weird ass cinematography. Some shots were beautiful and looked straight out of ANH where others looked like they decided to film in someones backyard.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:41 PM   #103
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Yep. I can't believe they handed him something as big as Star Wars when he doesn't have the level of talent to go along with such a big franchise. But his name is popular, so I guess that's what they were going for.

One shot in TFA trailer that got me excited was this one, where we saw the familiar jump-to-lightspeed effect, before it panned out to something new and exciting. I was hoping so much of TFA would be like that, where it referenced the OT in little ways like that but was also its own thing.

Turns out, it was pretty good at ripping off the original trilogy, but really bad at having its own merits.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:45 PM   #104
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I am sure some fans are having a bit of deja-vu and thinking back to when they first critically evaluated Episode I without all the hype that surrounded it. Then, when they saw trailers for Attack of the Clones, they were probably all like, "this one will surely be better..."
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:50 PM   #105
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I am sure some fans are having a bit of deja-vu and thinking back to when they first critically evaluated Episode I without all the hype that surrounded it. Then, when they saw trailers for Attack of the Clones, they were probably all like, "this one will surely be better..."
I have actual hope for RO and EP8. Rian is actual a fan of both sets of movies as well as the books and tv shows. RO seems like an EU novel come to life and I like that.
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Old 04-30-2016, 03:01 PM   #106
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I have more faith in Ep VIII simply because Rian is a much better filmmaker and storyteller than JJ. I didn't dislike TFA but it's a very weak movie overall and gets weaker upon repeat viewing just like everything JJ does.
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Old 05-06-2016, 02:26 PM   #107
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Old 05-06-2016, 05:35 PM   #108
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I have more faith in Ep VIII simply because Rian is a much better filmmaker and storyteller than JJ. I didn't dislike TFA but it's a very weak movie overall and gets weaker upon repeat viewing just like everything JJ does.
JJ is probably a better director than Rian. Most of the problems with VII are strictly of a script nature. Which he co-wrote... so yeah... just keep JJ off the script and it's more likely to be decent.

"JJ, how do you respond to criticisms that TFA was basically a ripoff of 'A New Hope' with different characters?"

JJ: "Oh, what people don't understand, is that it was always intentional! That was the plan!"

Um, that doesn't somehow make you less of a hack, sir.
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So the honeymoon period for Episode 7 has worn off now? Now people dislike it like the prequels? That was fast.
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:16 PM   #110
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star wars is becoming a tired ass franchise to me...
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:16 PM   #111
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So the honeymoon period for Episode 7 has worn off now? Now people dislike it like the prequels? That was fast.
the grace period is over!
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:07 AM   #112
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the grace period is over!
To me, it's a little worse than TPM.
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:25 AM   #113
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Old 05-07-2016, 01:48 PM   #114
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I've only seen Episode 7 once so far, but my only main problem with it was how underdeveloped the villains were. But again, this is the first movie and I know they'll appear in the next 2 movies, so I can't judge them too harshly yet when I know we'll see more of them next time.

So far though, not to keen on any of the villains. Snoke looks awful and out of place, the female Storm Trooper didn't even do anything for how hyped she was, and I still need to see more of Han's son before I form a full opinion on him. Again though, I'll wait till Episode 8 and 9 come out before I decide fully.
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Lots of info on the movie has been released via a preview of the Visual Dictionary book.

http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-character-names/

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So, does this confirm Vader's going to be in the movie? Oh boy, I can't wait.
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Old 05-17-2016, 10:26 AM   #117
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Lots of info on the movie has been released via a preview of the Visual Dictionary book.

http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-character-names/

http://i0.wp.com/bitcast-a-sm.bitgra...ZZ51CBA145.jpg
That little creature on the far left--can any of the old EU fans tell me if that is a new species or not?
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Is it just me or does the main female look like someone else from some other movie?
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Is it just me or does the main female look like someone else from some other movie?
What do you mean?

Like, she looks like a character that she's already played, or she looks like a different actress?
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