Anyone else been ROYALLY disappointed with Season 4 thus far?

[Vicky82]

One of the things I did like about the Space Arc was Mikey, he was definitely more mature and had a some great moments. I hope it continues on with Mikey has more big moments this season. But I am a little worried that he could go back to his goofy/making mistakes self now that he's back in New York, Splinter is alive ect.

I'll be crossing my fingers.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Aaronardo

Like which ones? The only truly great episodes in the space arc were The Outlaw Armaggon, The Arena of Carnage, and Transdimensional Turtles. Literally every other episode ranged from mediocre to god-awful.

God-awful? Which ones were god-awful? Even the comedic filler eps like the Wyrm one and the one with Mikey's mind were OK at their worst if you didn't like that humor. I liked all the others:

- First ep was a decent intro ep to the space arc

- First Mona Lisa ep was great, I particularly liked the ice planet and the crush wasn't too bad or overbearing.

- Wyrm ep was a decent amusing filler

- Armaggon's debut episode was good even though that rogue computer overshined him. Nice sci-fi themed ep.

- "Riddle of the Ancient Aeons" was decent. Nothing too memorable but nothing bad either.

- Mikey's mind ep was probably the weakest ep.

- Arena of Carnage in the Triceraton arena was great

- War for Dimension X was excellent and explained the history of the Utroms and Kraang, plus Bishop was fantastic.

- The Cosmic Ocean was another great episode. Really loved this one because Dregg was at his most menacing and Armaggon was great too. Also liked the Daagon and the shrieking alien queen.

- Crossover ep with OT Turtles was great

- Revenge of the Triceratons with the gremlings was alright.

- The evil of Dregg was a bit of a weird ep, probably one of the least memorable "main eps."

- The last ep with Tokka and Dregg was pretty exciting

- The finale on Earth was good barring whatever happens to the past Turtles


So there, as you can see, I only thought there were maybe 2 weak episodes, a few average eps, and I liked the others.

[LS Animation]

Maybe your standards are simply too low?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by LS Animation

Maybe your standards are simply too low?

LOL, stop trolling.

[Shark_Blade]

It's an okay Season, not disappointing.

[Donatello19]

Here's my opinion. Were the space episodes awful? No, not by any means. But are they something I would watch again? Again, no.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Here's my opinion. Were the space episodes awful? No, not by any means. But are they something I would watch again? Again, no.

Every episode I watch, I always re watch them another 2 times on the same day or the next day.

I didn't enjoy the space arc that much but I will watch 1st part of season 4 probably sometime this month when I start watching from season 1 again.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Here's my opinion. Were the space episodes awful? No, not by any means. But are they something I would watch again? Again, no.

Your loss. I would watch most of them again.

[Shiro Kame]

To be honest, I hated the first half of the space arc for the dumb filler, but the second half was actually pretty good. It did a decent amount of world building, the mid-season finale was way more decent than the last one, and it was easy to enjoy the later mid-season episodes. My only main nitpick is how all of the space villains were killed off despite only appearing for half the season. Also, the entire Triceraton population wiped out? Kinda a waste.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Shiro Kame

To be honest, I hated the first half of the space arc for the dumb filler, but the second half was actually pretty good. It did a decent amount of world building, the mid-season finale was way more decent than the last one, and it was easy to enjoy the later mid-season episodes. My only main nitpick is how all of the space villains were killed off despite only appearing for half the season. Also, the entire Triceraton population wiped out? Kinda a waste.

Aside from the Wyrm ep, what other episodes were filler?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Shiro Kame

To be honest, I hated the first half of the space arc for the dumb filler, but the second half was actually pretty good. It did a decent amount of world building, the mid-season finale was way more decent than the last one, and it was easy to enjoy the later mid-season episodes. My only main nitpick is how all of the space villains were killed off despite only appearing for half the season. Also, the entire Triceraton population wiped out? Kinda a waste.

There were literally only two filler episodes. The Wyrm ep and the one going inside Mikey's mind.

The first half of the space arc had tons of important episodes.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

There were literally only two filler episodes. The Wyrm ep and the one going inside Mikey's mind.

The first half of the space arc had tons of important episodes.

Only the Wyrm episode was filler.

A filler episode is an episode that doesn't connect to the major plot in any shape or form.

The Wyrm episode was filler as Casey wished to return to the moment before he found Wyrm thus rendering the episode as "never happened".

But the Journey through Mikey's head episode wasn't really filler because it did have a connection to the plot albeit a vague connection. The episode had Turtles wanting to get the schematics for the Triceraton's mother ship so they can infiltrate it and take back the piece of the Heart of Darkness that the Triceraton's possessed.

Mikey blurts out to Belly Bomb that he knew things about the black hole generator, which peeks Belly Bombs interests and he sends the Neutrino's out to get the info from Mikey's brain.

And also at the end of the episode showed Dregg learning that the Turtles were looking for the Heart of Darkness because Belly Bomb was in conversation about with him about it which is why he starts seeking the pieces out for himself.

But I will agree with you on the fact they could have skipped this episode and had Dregg still learn about the Heart of Darkness some other way. Such as when he infiltrated that Hydrala's palace.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

There were literally only two filler episodes. The Wyrm ep and the one going inside Mikey's mind.

The first half of the space arc had tons of important episodes.

Actually, not really. In the Mikey's mind ep, we learned about Dregg being after the parts to the Blackhole Generator too. At the time, we didn't know why.

[Aaronardo]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So there, as you can see, I only thought there were maybe 2 weak episodes, a few average eps, and I liked the others.

Props to you. I came off a little hostile in that last post, so I have to applaud you for saying your opinion (as much as I may disagree with it) as calmly as you did in contrast to how I responded.

As for the whole discussion about "filler episodes," I feel like a lot of the space arc episodes are... let me put it as "story-related for the heck of it." Journey To The Center of Mikey's Mind does connect to the overall story, but only at the very end. It's not like Revenge of the Triceratons or The Evil of Dregg, where the story directly connects to the overall premise/plot of the episode. The premise of Journey To The Center is very much... its title. The very core of the episode isn't "Uncover the secret of Dregg and why he's after the black hole pieces." It's very much "Enjoy this fun-filled romp through the comic relief's mind."

Effectively, it creates what is, at its core, a filler episode that is forced to have a connection to the story at the very end. There are many episodes that do this in the space arc, as well.

And by the way, for those who are saying Wyrm was the only filler episode, I'd argue that, as much as I enjoy the episode, Transdimensional Turtles has absolutely no connection to the overall plot at all.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by Aaronardo

And by the way, for those who are saying Wyrm was the only filler episode, I'd argue that, as much as I enjoy the episode, Transdimensional Turtles has absolutely no connection to the overall plot at all.

Even though I agree with you a lot of the time dude, I'm going to have to slightly disagree on Transdimensional Turtles for the time being. Although it had no influence on the main story in the slightest, it did slightly affect history as Sub-Prime is now in the Mirage world, probably a trophy mounted on the wall.

Then again, we'd have to wait to see as he's practically a bug you can't entirely squash yet again and return. However, with the confirmation of an extra crossover and the fate of Sub-Prime in the air, it'll probably have a bit to do in terms of future stories. In terms of the space arc, it has no bearing on the plot for sure and could have been moved to later. However, in terms of Kraang stories and the second crossover, it might have more of an influence. We just have to wait and see if it will or not. (Along the way, more criticizing to boot with the season will come )

[shredder orokusaki]

I am very dissapointed because now Splinter is alive again GRRRR

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

I am very dissapointed because now Splinter is alive again GRRRR

you are just upset that Splinter made you his bitch on the last episode with the pressure points of doom.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

I am very dissapointed because now Splinter is alive again GRRRR

I'm gonna poop in your helmet.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

I am very dissapointed because now Splinter is alive again GRRRR

Actually, I'm disappointed too. I wanted him to remain dead.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Actually, I'm disappointed too. I wanted him to remain dead.

Well it's not like anyone really thought that would happen.