How would you reintroduce Venus de Milo? - Page 3

*CyberCubed* · 05-03-2016, 12:33 PM

Venus is Scrappy or Poochy the rockin' dog. The mistake nobody wants to reference again.

The fact that she was only part of a short-lived and failed TV show probably helped. Had Venus instead been introduced in the final seasons of the original cartoon, it might have been different.

~~ABrown~~ · 05-03-2016, 12:58 PM

I really think that the Nick series could make her work. I could see her showing up like once a season. She wouldn't be a part of the main group, she would just be a guest character.

*Krutch* · 05-03-2016, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown

I really think that the Nick series could make her work. I could see her showing up like once a season. She wouldn't be a part of the main group, she would just be a guest character.

That'd be an interesting scene seeing her about to step on the turtle van and notice she's already been airbrushed along the side.

Cryomancer · 05-03-2016, 04:03 PM

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How would even mammary glands work on a humanoid Turtle, the can't be on the chest like humans, as there are no place for the fatty tissue to be. The plastron isn't some thick hide, or plates over the skin. It's literally the rib cage with fused bone plates, covered with scutes. Boobs aren't under the ribcage.

I was thinking this too. If she suddenly grew big human boobs as part of the mutation it would probably crush her damn organs and kill her. Or she'd have to break the hell out of her plastron. A good enough writer could probably make something out of that "origin" but it'd be tricky to make it happen.

*Utrommaniac* · 05-03-2016, 04:14 PM

Don't make her a mutant. Just have her be a regular turtle that hangs out in the sewer. Pretty much like Spike, just under a different name and a different type of turtle. Maybe they'd find a baby turtle hanging out inside a discarded oyster shell under a restaurant's sewage. Thus, they'd make the association with the painting Birth of Venus, and then take it home with them. Mike tries to make her their family mascot; it doesn't work. If she does inevitably mutate, maybe make her significantly younger. Just take out the girl/"a kid, god damn it a kid!"/Scrappy Doo characters and throw them all into one horrifying entity. Or maybe, by some miraculous and impossible blessing, it could work.

*Andrew NDB* · 05-03-2016, 04:21 PM

Shell boobs sort of work if it's the nonsense Fred Wolf/Nick mutagen and it's a literal 50/50 Turtle/Human DNA.

But I don't want to see that.

*CyberCubed* · 05-03-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown

I really think that the Nick series could make her work. I could see her showing up like once a season. She wouldn't be a part of the main group, she would just be a guest character.

They're already using Mona Lisa. She's the Venus expie. Thank goodness she's a salamander and not a turtle though.

*plastroncafe* · 05-03-2016, 04:27 PM

There can be only ONE!

*neatoman* · 05-03-2016, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Shell boobs sort of work if it's the nonsense Fred Wolf/Nick mutagen and it's a literal 50/50 Turtle/Human DNA.

But I don't want to see that.

Just out of curiousity, what do you think makes the Fred Wolf Mutagen more nonsense than the Mirage Mutagen? Aside from turning Hamto Yoshi into a rat when it should have turned him into a turtle I mean.

*Utrommaniac* · 05-03-2016, 04:39 PM

The interesting thing is that shell boobs wouldn't work no matter what.
Because it seems to follow the principle of Breastplate Boobs and that's just ineffective and even dangerous

*ToTheNines* · 05-03-2016, 04:53 PM

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http://puntacanadventure.com/wp-cont...coke-3.png.jpg

Yeah, Brugal is my jam. That bottle in mesh towards the middle is the ****.

TonySiegel · 05-03-2016, 05:31 PM

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Yeah, Brugal is my jam. That bottle in mesh towards the middle is the ****.

the standard brown and white bottles are the joints...

that far right though looks like some special occasion joint...

you Spanish?

*ToTheNines* · 05-03-2016, 05:36 PM

Only in the honorary sense lol.

turtle1237 · 05-03-2016, 06:35 PM

purgatory.

That show still gives me nightmares. How in the world did something that was so cool, turn out so bad? We had the cool 87 cartoon, 2 great movies and a decent 3rd film, and than this show came out and almost destroy the Ninja Turtles.

by the time the 2003 cartoon came around, the turtles were on life support.

turtle1237 · 05-03-2016, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

They're already using Mona Lisa. She's the Venus expie. Thank goodness she's a salamander and not a turtle though.

Mona Lisa rock in the old cartoon, a shame she only show up once in the cartoon. But she was a cool salamander mutant lady lol.

*Shark_Blade* · 05-03-2016, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown

I really think that the Nick series could make her work. I could see her showing up like once a season. She wouldn't be a part of the main group, she would just be a guest character.

If the scene involves her being hit by a runaway garbage truck and she dies, then sign me up.

Cryomancer · 05-03-2016, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman

Just out of curiousity, what do you think makes the Fred Wolf Mutagen more nonsense than the Mirage Mutagen? Aside from turning Hamto Yoshi into a rat when it should have turned him into a turtle I mean.

Because it does whatever the writers decide it does that day. Turns Yoshi into a rat person, same age. Turns the turtles into full teenage turtle people, instantly. Turns a bull into a larger, angrier bull. Turns rocks into soldiers. And so on.

*plastroncafe* · 05-03-2016, 11:49 PM

In defense of FW, the whole "turtles to full grown in a day" thing is Mirage canon. It's canon they backpedaled on, but...it's in issue #1.

*ProactiveMan* · 05-04-2016, 12:28 AM

The mutation as depicted in either the Mirage or more recent versions of TMNT is pretty silly, so I don’t think we can make a very solid, scientific argument for or against any anatomical features.

The Mirage way is predicated on the notion that bipedal primate morphology is some kind of innate, evolutionary goal, or end-point, which most likely isn’t the case. With the Fred Wolf/Nick gene splicing ooze, there doesn’t seem to be any consistency in terms of which morphological features are merged, or adopted; it’s a case of anything goes. So, I’ve never seen a turtle with boobs, and I’m unlikely to ever see one, but I’ve never seen a talking plant with a human heart either, or a person who can change into a snake that has two other snakes for arms.

Turtle boobs make no sense via the Mirage method, but unfortunately in Fred Wolf land they don’t need to make sense.

Zage · 05-04-2016, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The girl in the Venus costume is cute. Sadly since that pic is 1997...which is now oddly nearly 20 years ago...she probably looks old and dated now so I'd rather not look her up and see how she aged.

The sad realization when you realize 1997 is now 20 years ago.

She'd be about 44 now, so chances are, she'd still be pretty.

Now, to stick with the topic, I like Venus, & think that it'd be neat, if she were introduced, in the IDW-verse.

05-03-2016, 04:14 PM	#45
Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	Don't make her a mutant. Just have her be a regular turtle that hangs out in the sewer. Pretty much like Spike, just under a different name and a different type of turtle. Maybe they'd find a baby turtle hanging out inside a discarded oyster shell under a restaurant's sewage. Thus, they'd make the association with the painting Birth of Venus, and then take it home with them. Mike tries to make her their family mascot; it doesn't work. If she does inevitably mutate, maybe make her significantly younger. Just take out the girl/"a kid, god damn it a kid!"/Scrappy Doo characters and throw them all into one horrifying entity. Or maybe, by some miraculous and impossible blessing, it could work. __________________ DeviantART

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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,543	Shell boobs sort of work if it's the nonsense Fred Wolf/Nick mutagen and it's a literal 50/50 Turtle/Human DNA. But I don't want to see that. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

05-03-2016, 04:39 PM	#50
Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	The interesting thing is that shell boobs wouldn't work no matter what. Because it seems to follow the principle of Breastplate Boobs and that's just ineffective and even dangerous __________________ DeviantART

05-04-2016, 12:28 AM	#59
ProactiveMan Spooky ghost Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,266	The mutation as depicted in either the Mirage or more recent versions of TMNT is pretty silly, so I don’t think we can make a very solid, scientific argument for or against any anatomical features. The Mirage way is predicated on the notion that bipedal primate morphology is some kind of innate, evolutionary goal, or end-point, which most likely isn’t the case. With the Fred Wolf/Nick gene splicing ooze, there doesn’t seem to be any consistency in terms of which morphological features are merged, or adopted; it’s a case of anything goes. So, I’ve never seen a turtle with boobs, and I’m unlikely to ever see one, but I’ve never seen a talking plant with a human heart either, or a person who can change into a snake that has two other snakes for arms. Turtle boobs make no sense via the Mirage method, but unfortunately in Fred Wolf land they don’t need to make sense. __________________ ProactiveMan!

05-03-2016, 12:33 PM	#41
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	Venus is Scrappy or Poochy the rockin' dog. The mistake nobody wants to reference again. The fact that she was only part of a short-lived and failed TV show probably helped. Had Venus instead been introduced in the final seasons of the original cartoon, it might have been different.

05-03-2016, 12:58 PM	#42
~~ABrown~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,831	I really think that the Nick series could make her work. I could see her showing up like once a season. She wouldn't be a part of the main group, she would just be a guest character.

05-03-2016, 05:36 PM	#53
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,359	Only in the honorary sense lol.

05-03-2016, 06:35 PM	#54
turtle1237 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 986	purgatory. That show still gives me nightmares. How in the world did something that was so cool, turn out so bad? We had the cool 87 cartoon, 2 great movies and a decent 3rd film, and than this show came out and almost destroy the Ninja Turtles. by the time the 2003 cartoon came around, the turtles were on life support.