Official TMNT 2 Discussion

[TigerClaw]

Saw this list for upcomming appearances for Stephen Amell.
https://twitter.com/AmellDaily/statu...27688357826560



The premiere in NYC on May 22nd, Interview with Kelly and Michael on May 25th, Interview with Larry King on May 27, TMNT 2 Premiere in Sydney on May 29, Special Fan Screening at Melborne on May 30.

I don't see any listing for appearances on late night talk shows, but I'll be sure to post of any info on upcomming appearances for Megan Fox and Stephen Amell on those late night talk shows sometime.

[ToTheNines]

Oh man... I know It's beating a dead horse to keep picking on these movies but poor Dave Green REALLY can't shoot action.

Doesn't help that his stunt performers appear to be abusing cough syrup.

[Sabacooza]

And yet Alan, Pete, Noel and Jeremy aren't out making the rounds? That's sad. I want to see more of them. You know, the ones that really matter. Who gives a flying **** about Fox and Amell.

[Myko]

TMNT movies have never hyped the actors playing the Turtles, I can't even remember if they are in the opening credits for the old ones. I know Josh Pais is, but probably not the rest.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by Myko

TMNT movies have never hyped the actors playing the Turtles, I can't even remember if they are in the opening credits for the old ones. I know Josh Pais is, but probably not the rest.

I don't care. That's so wrong. Without them, there is no movie, period.

[Foombamaroom]

Damn. Neither the director nor the "lead" actors get press interviews. That's really, really sad.

The worst part is that getting the Turtle actors to go to interviews/panels would probably much cheaper than getting Fox to go.

[beeshaw]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

I don't care. That's so wrong. Without them, there is no movie, period.

They'll get the regional morning talk show circuit like last time, and I'm sure they've done the usual press kit/on set fluff stuff too.

But I'd would love to see them all together for an interview or two. See the dynamic of them all together out of the leotards.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Oh man... I know It's beating a dead horse to keep picking on these movies but poor Dave Green REALLY can't shoot action.

Only have that Amelly Jones clip to go by, which is possibly chopped down a bit, but it looks pretty clumsy. Weird, quick jarring cuts amidst the action. Direction and editing feels kinda film-school level, to be honest.

[sethmartin]

Originally Posted by Bry

Only have that Amelly Jones clip to go by, which is possibly chopped down a bit, but it looks pretty clumsy. Weird, quick jarring cuts amidst the action. Direction and editing feels kinda film-school level, to be honest.

It does. It's not great but I prefer it over a camera drone flying all over the place

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by Bry

Only have that Amelly Jones clip to go by, which is possibly chopped down a bit, but it looks pretty clumsy. Weird, quick jarring cuts amidst the action. Direction and editing feels kinda film-school level, to be honest.

Don't insult film-school students like that!

[beeshaw]

Originally Posted by Bry

Only have that Amelly Jones clip to go by, which is possibly chopped down a bit, but it looks pretty clumsy. Weird, quick jarring cuts amidst the action. Direction and editing feels kinda film-school level, to be honest.

I'm sure it IS cut down, a little. The pre-release clips normally are. I'm sure the 'puck to the back of the head' comes after the introduction to April and the Turtles for one.

What stuck out for me was the clumsy choreography. The part where Casey puts the stick on the ground and the Foot takes a swipe at it with his sword...WAY too slow. Looks like they were still rehearsing while the camera rolled. 'Okay, so I do this, then...............you do that.'

And the Tortoise wink was terribly cheesy.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

It does. It's not great but I prefer it over a camera drone flying all over the place

Looks like they're gonna deliver plenty of both.

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

Don't insult film-school students like that!

I speak from personal experience on that one.

[graphic_content]

she said: "...again." alluding to the fact that this may not be their first altercation in the film.

and I think this clip is HEAVILY edited. the cuts don't make sense, but like the fight clips that came out to promote Civil War, I'm willing to bet that there are 'beats' missing from this fight.

Im actually surprised at the intensity - I guess I was just expecting them to water-down the violence so heavily (due to parental backlash), and I'm just happy to see that doesnt seem to be the case.

[Allio]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

I wonder what dormant animal gene I have inside me. I hope it's a lion.

Since people can have dormant Rhino and Warthog genes inside them.

Can you have more than one?

Exactly how deep did the writers of this movie reach into their ass to pull out this plot point?

Did they reach into each other's asses or was it just their own?

I know this one guy that has Croc, Wolf, and a rhino


and he may be an eagle, so make that 4

[graphic_content]

why so much hate on the 'dormant animal gene'? is it silly...borderline ridiculous, yes.

is it any more ridiculous than an ooze that when in contact with animals can turn them into anthropomorphic beings? no, not really. It all kinda falls in line.

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Exactly how deep did the writers of this movie reach into their ass to pull out this plot point?

Did they reach into each other's asses or was it just their own?

On a separate note, this line had me cracking up.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

why so much hate on the 'dormant animal gene'? is it silly...borderline ridiculous, yes.

is it any more ridiculous than an ooze that when in contact with animals can turn them into anthropomorphic beings? no, not really. It all kinda falls in line.

Holy ****, we've got another defender invoking Crisler's Law!!!!

Is that Bay Turtles Bingo? Pretty sure that's Bay Turtles Bingo.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by beeshaw

But I'd would love to see them all together for an interview or two. See the dynamic of them all together out of the leotards.

Me too, I keep hoping for that, esp on the morning talk show circuit.


I get it, they aren't as big of names as Fox and Amell, but hey, if you give them that exposure then they might, gee I dunno, become better known?

Then again maybe it comes down to money. Oppress their public exposure and they'll, I guess, remain cheaper to pay when on the set.

Originally Posted by graphic_content

why so much hate on the 'dormant animal gene'? is it silly...borderline ridiculous, yes.

is it any more ridiculous than an ooze that when in contact with animals can turn them into anthropomorphic beings? no, not really. It all kinda falls in line.

Eh, maybe I'm too forgiving of mutagen magic since we're used to it, but at least it does have versions (and maybe this one included?) where DNA is directly involved as an explanation. If they meant anything beyond ape ancestry then a dormant animal gene of an entirely different species with no explanation for how it would even be there is pushing it.

I sincerely hope they use a little storytelling logic and have the rhino and warthog DNA involved with their experiments and this doesn't actually turn out that we're supposed to assume they somehow already had those animals in their heritage. If they do go that route like normal, using the DNA in the experiment, I will be a bit disappointed if they don't take it far enough to take just one moment in the film to explain the Turtles as a similar case, but reversed, given the whole "turn us into humans" thing. Because in that case, in their case, they'd need it in there, too.


And if they don't... that will kind of irk me that in the writing they don't spend a moment to make that simple logical explanation about DNA involvement for mutants, yet spend all this other time for these films creating magic hogosha connections and backstory for why Casey is in that place at that time and other unnecessary elements.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Holy ****, we've got another defender invoking Crisler's Law!!!!

Is that Bay Turtles Bingo? Pretty sure that's Bay Turtles Bingo.

I'm just saying its ALL silly pseudo science. I have my reservations about this film, and admittedly, disliked much of the first one - but all the crazy made-up science, is FAR from the issue that needs addressing.

and by the way, the "Crisler's Law" you keep throwing out there is a terrible argument because all you're saying is that they can use made-up science to justify the existence of the Turtles themselves, but when someone (using the same made-up science) uses it to justify something you don't like, its a terrible idea. the same nonsense that brought the turtles into existence is what is bringing Bebop and Rocksteady about.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

I'm just saying its ALL silly pseudo science. I have my reservations about this film, and admittedly, disliked much of the first one - but all the crazy made-up science, is FAR from the issue that needs addressing.

and by the way, the "Crisler's Law" you keep throwing out there is a terrible argument because all you're saying is that they can use made-up science to justify the existence of the Turtles themselves, but when someone (using the same made-up science) uses it to justify something you don't like, its a terrible idea.

"Dormant animal gene" is something randomly thrown out there that has no basis in science or any science shown in the story they've so far told.

Whereas the mutagen creating humanoids from normal turtles has usually been shown with some manner of logic, reason, and explanation. This ranges from "mutates based on last living thing you came in contact with (Fred Wolf)" to "mutates into anthropomorphic humanoids (4Kids / Mirage)" to "whole lotta science, honestly a bit too much (IDW)". But it's always given a (usually) simple concept which is easy to accept with a nod BUT DOES NOT BREAK DOWN IN ITS OWN STORY.

Whereas, "dormant animal gene" makes no sense even in story. Do all black men have pig genes? Do all white Irish men have rhino genes? Does each individual human on earth have a different gene? If so, what drives that incredibly odd random gene?

[Allio]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

I think she can confirm a few just by our avatars/sigs.

*looks at mine.*
*sweats nervously.*

*looks at mine*
"girls, girls, and more girls"

or I may love satan like characters....and I don't like Power Rangers