The Flash tv series on CW

[mrmaczaps]

All these cool comics things that everyone likes are all sadly things developed while Wally West wore the mask as the Flash of the late 80s until Barry the Bore returned as the Flash. It's annoying to talk to people who just think all this cool stuff is Barry's doing and they don't understand.

The Speed Force wasn't named until Wally was Flash.
The girl friend/love interest being the "anchor" was Linda and Wally's love...
Barry could time travel & dimension travel on his own, but Wally needed a machine. The cosmic treadmill.

All the really great Easter eggs or throw backs are Wally stuff that Johns himself created, just not for Barry...

And I didn't like this version of the Speed Force. Lol

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Barry could time travel & dimension travel on his own, but Wally needed a machine. The cosmic treadmill.

Um, you do know Barry Allen was the Flash that invented the Cosmic Treadmill in the first place for that exact purpose, right?

As shown since Showcase#4, yes, Barry can travel through time on his own power. But as he once stated in the issue with the treadmill's debut, it's a difficult process which is why he built it to make the experience easier.

[Autbot_Benz]

Speaking of Comics coming out in June is a graphic novel called The Flash Silver Age vol 1. Its 11 issues of Barry Allen's flash starting with his debut and it will feature issues with Grodd Mirror Master and Captain Cold. As someone who has never read flash but wants to I am picking it up.

It Collects SHOWCASE #4, #8 and #14, and THE FLASH #105-112.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Um, you do know Barry Allen was the Flash that invented the Cosmic Treadmill in the first place for that exact purpose, right?

As shown since Showcase#4, yes, Barry can travel through time on his own power. But as he once stated in the issue with the treadmill's debut, it's a difficult process which is why he built it to make the experience easier.

Yeah, I'm aware Barry made it but he rarely ever used it.

Either way, almost all the real cool Barry "stuff" is actually Wally developed "stuff".

I own and have read Barry's last 100 or so issues, all of Wally's run and then all the crap Barry stories since his return. It's really sad to retcon all the great Wally stories into not so great Barry stories. If Barry had always been as cool as Johns and co feel like he is, he would never have died in Crisis due to his series low sales. Barry was boring. When Barry came back, DC had a chance to expand the Flash character into two titles at least. Superman had four-five titles a month. Batman had way to many. Barry and Wally both should have been able to coexist.

Anyways, that's off topic of the show.

[TurtleTitan97]

Zack Stentz is returning to Flash in season 3 as a consulting producer: https://twitter.com/MuseZack/status/731269967803518980

[Splinter the boss]

Anyone else think Wally west won't become kid flash. Originally, I thought so, then I realize he wasn't in the same circumstances as Barry.
Anyone disappointed?

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Splinter the boss

Anyone else think Wally west won't become kid flash. Originally, I thought so, then I realize he wasn't in the same circumstances as Barry.
Anyone disappointed?

Wally's going become Kid Flash eventually, they're just holding it off for now. It's like how Roy didn't become Arsenal till Season 3 of Arrow.

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Wally's going become Kid Flash eventually, they're just holding it off for now. It's like how Roy didn't become Arsenal till Season 3 of Arrow.

They definitely just set that, along with Jesse Quick, up.

[Slade]

Man these shows keep killing people. Saw it coming though.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Slade

Man these shows keep killing people. Saw it coming though.

"I'm not going anywhere."

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

"I'm not going anywhere."

Bingo you win

[TurtleTitan97]

I'm so glad Flash didn't kill Black Siren. Ironic how this show treated Laurel better than four seasons of Arrow did.

RIP Henry.

Also, based on Cisco's vison, looks like a mini-Crisis is incoming.

[mrmaczaps]

Shock value death... probably because Arrow had one... sigh. The cast is getting too large... Maybe they can do a spin off and call it Young Justice... Supergirl is supposedly bringing in Superboy... Bart Allen from the future can't be far behind on this one... that just leaves a Jr Kid Arrow to show up and the trifecta is complete.

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Shock value death... probably because Arrow had one... sigh. The cast is getting too large... Maybe they can do a spin off and call it Young Justice... Supergirl is supposedly bringing in Superboy... Bart Allen from the future can't be far behind on this one... that just leaves a Jr Kid Arrow to show up and the trifecta is complete.

What.

How is that a shock value death? It's going to move the story forward and have Barry go all out on Zoom? It's similar to Moira's death in Arrow.

If you want a pure shock value death, watch Laurel's death.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

That was a GREAT episode. Loved it, can't wait to see where we go from here.

And ever since "Garrick? Huh that's my mom's maiden name" and "I'm not going anywhere", the rest of the season was spelled out.

• Yep, Henry died in this episode.
• And yep, he's gonna be the Man in the Metal Mask.
• And yep, he's the genuine legit Earth-2 Jay Garrick.

[mrmaczaps]

My issue with Henry being E2 "Jay Garrick" is that Barry is still almost exactly Barry on E2 so Henry is Henry there... now if Jay/Henry is from another Earth or the previous Flash TV show earth, I'm okay with that... as then he's not really Henry or Jay but an alternative Barry Allen. And THAT would be awesome.

As for his death, thanks to this very page for spoiling it, it had zero meaning or effect for me... so thanks for not using the spoiler tag minutes after the show aired.

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

As for his death, thanks to this very page for spoiling it, it had zero meaning or effect for me... so thanks for not using the spoiler tag minutes after the show aired.

>Goes on a forum specifically dedicated to The Flash minutes after an episode has aired.
>Hasn't seen the episode.
>Gets mad over spoilers.


k.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I think Boromir said it best:

"One does not simply visit Flash-dedicated websites or discussions before seeing the episode and then complain about spoilers."

[Darthknuxward]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

That was a GREAT episode. Loved it, can't wait to see where we go from here.

And ever since "Garrick? Huh that's my mom's maiden name" and "I'm not going anywhere", the rest of the season was spelled out.

• Yep, Henry died in this episode.
• And yep, he's gonna be the Man in the Metal Mask.
• And yep, he's the genuine legit Earth-2 Jay Garrick.

I would be mad about Henry's death if you hadn't made me realize this.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Darthknuxward

I would be mad about Henry's death if you hadn't made me realize this.

Honestly, I'm not thrilled at all that Jay Garrick will be Earth-2 Henry Allen. Basically, all of the Earth-2 secret identities have pissed me off this season.

Jay not being Jay but being this weird retconned Zolomon, and now Jay being Henry because we need more Barry emotional drama...

I think it's all been pretty sloppy, frankly.