Official TMNT 2 Discussion

[TigerClaw]

Here's an article about the fight choreography in TMNT 2.
http://thefilmgeekguy.blogspot.com/2...turtles-2.html

Fil-Am stunt experts choreograph fight scenes in "Ninja Turtles 2"

Action is the operative word when it comes to the four brother Turtles, but the filmmakers of “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows” are careful to intersperse every skirmish with humor.

"Fun energy," as director Dave Green likes to call it. "It's important that the audience feels that the Turtles are always in danger," he says. "But at the most serious or scary moments, we often have a joke to punctuate that moment just to give you relief from the tension. Jojo is brilliant at that."

Green is referring to Filipino-American stunt coordinator Jonathan Eusebio, known on set as Jojo, who designed the fight scenes for the 2014 film. This time around, he brought fellow Fil-Am veteran multi-martial artist Jon Valera to help in training and articulating much of the action in the film.

Eusebio and his team begin by planning and working out the action in a warehouse, videotaping the sequences using stuntmen in place of actors, to give filmmakers and idea of what they have in mind. Once they receive notes, Eusebio and Valera refine their routine and begin working with talent to prepare them for filming.

"The biggest challenge on sequels is always to try and out do the original, whether in magnitude of the action or the complexity of the story," says Eusebio. "We tried things we didn’t get to do on the original, but at the same time preserved the fun and humor of the Turtles' camaraderie. We listened to feedback from the previous movie and fans can expect something even bigger and better this time around."

Given that Eusebio had trained the actors who played the Turtles for the first movie, Noel Fisher (Michaelangelo), Pete Ploszek (Leonardo), Jeremy Howard (Donatello) and Alan Ritchson (Raphael) had a foundation from which to begin learning new moves for the sequel.

"Even though the guys appear more often in this film, they actually trained less than they did on the previous movie," says Eusebio. "On the first movie there was a learning curve when to use the actor’s movements and when to use their stunt double’s movements. We figured out how to be more efficient and save time in terms of scheduling. Stunts and visual effects handle the bulk of the action movements for the Turtles."

Eusebio’s team had also developed a shorthand with Megan Fox from their work on the previous film. "Megan isn’t afraid to get into the thick of things and she's always willing to do as much as she can," he says.

To the film's benefit, Eusebio and Valera were able to spend a significant amount of rehearsal time with actor Stephen Amell. They credit his experience on his television series “Arrow” for his ability to learn the moves quickly.

"It was always a cognizant decision to make Stephen's version of Casey Jones handle the action differently than his Oliver Queen/Green Arrow character on Arrow," says Eusebio. "Unlike the Green Arrow, Casey is not a proficient martial artist, his movements are bigger and not as refined. He wins fights and gets out of situations incidentally rather than by using a methodical and well-planned design."

When it came to a big stunt piece in which Casey must skate through a treacherous escape route while taunting his pursuers, Amell was determined to perform the action himself.

"One day Stephen looked at me and said, 'You know I can skate?'" recalls producer Andrew Form. "I knew he played ice hockey and I cautioned him that he would be skating through cars, chased by moving vehicles. He said, 'Get me some roller blades,' so we did. I have to say, the guy can skate. Stephen didn't want anyone doing his stuff, so pretty much every stunt, every time you see Casey, from his foot on the gas pedal, his hands on the steering wheel to fighting or zigzagging through a crowded garage, it's Stephen."

Michelangelo, Donatello, Leonardo, and Raphael return to Philippine cinemas on June 1st in “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows” to battle bigger, badder villains, alongside April O’Neil (Megan Fox), Vern Fenwick (Will Arnett), and a newcomer: the hockey-masked vigilante Casey Jones (Stephen Amell).

After supervillain Shredder (Brian Tee) escapes custody, he joins forces with mad scientist Baxter Stockman (Tyler Perry) and two dimwitted henchmen, Bebop (Gary Anthony Williams) and Rocksteady (WWE Superstar Stephen “Sheamus” Farrelly), to unleash a diabolical plan to take over the world. As the Turtles prepare to take on Shredder and his new crew, they find themselves facing an even greater evil with similar intentions: the notorious Krang.

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

I'm just a regular ol' popcorn & coke kind of girl.

After having a meal pre-movie. There's a Mongolian grill right outside the theater I usually go to in Ft. Worth, and if I'm with a friend, we eat there pre-movie.

See, my friends and I usually eat after a movie so we can discuss it and remain hyped about it.

Also, I'd hate assigned seats at a movie theatre. What if you got a really, really crappy row?

Then again, it could come in handy; when my buds and I went to see The Force Awakens, we got there two hours early to make sure we'd have seats. People were already there.

[Andrew NDB]

I will post this now, without comment.

[Utrommaniac]

I actually just realized that the seats are kind of a mix between assigned and pre-selected. You choose your seat before going into the movie.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Here's an article about the fight choreography in TMNT 2.
http://thefilmgeekguy.blogspot.com/2...turtles-2.html

"The biggest challenge on sequels is always to try and out do the original, whether in magnitude of the action or the complexity of the story," says Eusebio. "We tried things we didn’t get to do on the original, but at the same time preserved the fun and humor of the Turtles' camaraderie. We listened to feedback from the previous movie and fans can expect something even bigger and better this time around."

Unfortunately the problem with the action in the first one is not so much the quality of the choreography, but because the Turtles could overpower the Foot with one punch, it really didn't make for any dynamic fighting. Jonathan Eusebio has cranked out some great fight sequences (Avengers, John Wick, Bourne Legacy) but because there wasnt much back and forth between any two fighters (with the exception of Splinter vs Mecha-Shredder), the fight sequences in the first film were lackluster to me. I'm really hoping with bigger threats more in line with the Turtles size and the Foot now having bladed weapons, the fights will be more dynamic.

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

Unfortunately the problem with the action in the first one is not so much the quality of the choreography, but because the Turtles could overpower the Foot with one punch, it really didn't make for any dynamic fighting. Jonathan Eusebio has cranked out some great fight sequences (Avengers, John Wick, Bourne Legacy) but because there wasnt much back and forth between any two fighters (with the exception of Splinter vs Mecha-Shredder), the fight sequences in the first film were lackluster to me. I'm really hoping with bigger threats more in line with the Turtles size and the Foot now having bladed weapons, the fights will be more dynamic.

This.
Mecha Shredder vs. Splinter was average, but still better than the other fights. Hell, the Turtles vs. Shredder was a boring fight; it kept cutting back to April, and the Turtles were getting their asses unreasonably handed to them.

Shredder's supposed to whoop all kinds of ass when he fights the Turtles, but he isn't supposed to just punch them down. Most of the fights have the Turtles throwing attacks, Shredder blocking them, and then beating the crap out of them. This one just used unreasonably strong brute force.

[Xiewin]

The Raph vs Shredder fight was the worst choreographed fight in the last film.

It was just downright laughable to see a 500 lb+ turtle flipped around so easily.

I couldn't take any of it seriously.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

The Raph vs Shredder fight was the worst choreographed fight in the last film.

It was just downright laughable to see a 500 lb+ turtle flipped around so easily.

I couldn't take any of it seriously.

If anyone could do it though, it would be a Cyborg Shredder. The idea behind enhancing traditional armor with some robotics, I don't think it's a bad idea...some being the key term - what they did in the first film was complete overkill.

[Vicky82]

I asked someone on Twitter when the Embargo lifts, he said it be sometime this weekend before the UK release date.

[TigerClaw]

New TMNT 2 Trailer shows a lot more Bebop and Rocksteady
https://twitter.com/TMNTMovie/status/735941737395322881

[Vicky82]

2 years ago we were complaining there wasn't enough promotion. This year we are complaining that there's too much promotion.

[ToTheNines]

He should have used his Uncle Ruckus voice for Bebop.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

2 years ago we were complaining there wasn't enough promotion.

Uh, we were?

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Uh, we were?

Yeah remember when we got the 1st trailer like 4 months to go and then like 2 months later we got the 2nd trailer and the 1st lot of posters.

We didn't have this much promotion for the 2014 movie.

[DioLeo451]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I asked someone on Twitter when the Embargo lifts, he said it be sometime this weekend before the UK release date.

I honestly think this might be the highest rotten tmnt movie ever next to tmnt 2007

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Yeah remember when we got the 1st trailer like 4 months to go and then like 2 months later we got the 2nd trailer and the 1st lot of posters.

We didn't have this much promotion for the 2014 movie.

That's because Transformers: Age of Extinction came out the same year, and Paramount was busy promoting the hell out of it, this year there is no new Transformers movie, so Paramount is promoting the hell out of TMNT 2 this time.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the youtube version of that trailer

[CyberCubed]

Oddly enough Bebop/Rocksteady look to be the highlight of this movie.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Their dialogue is awful though. Like, really really bad. Are all of Michael Bay's movies like that?

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Their dialogue is awful though. Like, really really bad. Are all of Michael Bay's movies like that?

Yes. Incredibly so.