4 year old child falls into gorilla habitat

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Nah just a dearth of reading comprehension.

Pretty sure I got your point.

"Men suck, zoos save lives, people are idiots, I work in a zoo, you a dumb man. Tumbler lingo. Shut up."

To to which I said, "You're a heartless ass, you shut up."

[plastroncafe]

Prat has one T not two.
Just...for your own edification.

(I'm gunning to add "pedantic" to my list)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh my Grodd, this is still going on...

#FlashLivesMatter

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Prat has one T not two.
Just...for your own edification.

(I'm gunning to add "pedantic" to my list)

Paying attention to the things that really, truly matter, once again.
Ignore the argument, go after the spelling. Typical.

By all means, lets spend another year arguing about bathrooms, or Donald trumps hair, or who said something "insensitive" to whom. Let's ignore the overreach of humanity, and it's ceaseless wanton destruction; better yet, lets spin it, decide we are the pinnacle of life, and disabuse ourselves that we, might actually be in the wrong.

The air we breath is less important than the pronouns we use, or the gods we praise.

This was murder. Plain and simple. There was no justification for it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Man, that was a chimp shot.

[The Deadman]

PETA would be proud. Oh wait, they kill animals too. I take that back.

[plastroncafe]

Actually, not only was prat misspelled, but its use in that particular attempt at insult was redundant.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Actually, not only was prat misspelled, but its use in that particular attempt at insult was redundant.

... because the great sjw plastroncafe, excuse me, sjc, is never, ever redundant.

[IndigoErth]

Is the parent(s) at least in trouble over this, like they aught to be?

There was a time when parents kept a better eye on their damn kids more and actually actively taught them boundaries, staying within eyesight of their parent and they listened much of the time. Now some people seem to think the whole world is a playground and babysitter; like if anything happens well it's someone's else's fault for not being childproof for their kid. (Guaranteed this is the same sort of kid that drives me nuts at work, where the parents allow them to act like it's a playground and do whatever they damn well please.)

I hope they feel guilty for the rest of their life/lives over what their lack of control of their kid caused. Even if you can't watch your kid every second of the day, there is an obvious lack of parenting there already if your kid thinks it is okay to just run off and do that.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

... because the great sjw plastroncafe, excuse me, sjc, is never, ever redundant.

Well of course I am, but isn't the whole point of your screed that you're better than me?

Or am I parsing your intentions incorrectly.

IndigoErth, I wish there were some way to hold the family responsible for their actions, if for nothing else than what could amount to a "wrongful death" suit, but I don't think that's likely. Which is sad.

This is one of those things where no one is at-fault because everyone involved is partly to blame.
The zoo for having an enclosure a kid could get into in the first place, the parents for careless oversight of their kid.
Poor damn gorilla. He didn't deserve this for doing what was ostensibly his job.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Prat has one T not two.

Rebuttal:

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

There was a time when parents kept a better eye on their damn kids more and actually actively taught them boundaries, staying within eyesight of their parent and they listened much of the time.

Are you kidding? Before kids were encouraged to stay inside and watch TV, and before parents were arrested for letting their kids walk to bus stops all by themselves, kids would be gone the whole day screwing around God knows where, and would come home from dinner battered and bruised from a day of being in places they had no place being.

The kid was like four years old. Four-year-olds are stupid. I once climbed in a pig pen and fell in a bunch of pig poop when I was about that age. It happens.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Bry

Rebuttal:

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[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Are you kidding? Before kids were encouraged to stay inside and watch TV, and before parents were arrested for letting their kids walk to bus stops all by themselves, kids would be gone the whole day screwing around God knows where, and would come home from dinner battered and bruised from a day of being in places they had no place being.

The kid was like four years old. Four-year-olds are stupid. I once climbed in a pig pen and fell in a bunch of pig poop when I was about that age. It happens.

This. Nowadays with all the social media happenings and what not parents are too concerned with what's going down on Facebook or Instagram, and can't be assed to do a little parenting while out in public.

[Candy Kappa]

Hindsight is 20/20, and everyone is a gorilla expert, tranquilizer enthusiast and gold medal winner in parenting.

Yet, the zoo had enclosures keeping the gorilla off-limits so bad, a 4-year old got through.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

As probably the only actual parent on this thread, let me assure everyone, kids get into trouble--sometimes even this level of serious trouble--even with the most attentive parents.

They slip their hand out of yours, run faster than you, bam. Nowhere does anyone say that the mother was negligent. I'm willing to give the zookeepers and the people involved the benefit of the doubt.

The loss of that magnificent beast is tragic; were I in that situation, I don't know what I would've done. All I know is I already hold my kids' hands tight at the zoo, and I'm not changing that now.

[plastroncafe]

I'm instantly reminded of The Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord

In particular #12:

One of my advisors will be an average five-year-old child. Any flaws in my plan that he is able to spot will be corrected before implementation.

Zoos rely on public funding in the form of admissions, so all enclosures must be safe but not so safe as people can't view them. They have to be functional, but not so functional as to upset the visitors, and what they believe the animals need to be comfortable.

Again, this is a crap situation.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I'm instantly reminded of The Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord

How have I never seen this before!?

But I disagree with #35. I already have a wicked goatee and I am not getting rid of it.

[Commenter 42]

@plastron Nowhere did I say, I'm better than you; yes, I see what you did there, and yes, maybe I'm twisting your argument a tad...

Again, no more than you've done, on occasion...

Here's where we differ in opinion:
Maybe, just maybe, the kid wasn't actually worth the life of an endangered species.

Now that a crime's been committed, there needs for justice. It. Was. Wrong.

I get how that reads to some of you. I know, y'all instantly think "but it's a child." My response, is distasteful, because I'm saying, "yes, and?"

We don't discriminate with drone strikes. We don't balk when it's children in the thousands in a differnt country, dying slowly, painfully; but we absolutely give a damn when it's just one, in a situation that could happen to us.

It's true, despite a parents best intentions, things happen, but that argument could also be used a myriad of ways, and good intentions are a non defence. Something needs to be done, because this was wrong.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

I get how that reads to some of you. I know, y'all instantly think "but it's a child." My response, is distasteful, because I'm saying, "yes, and?"

No, I instantly think "but it's a human being". Child, adult, man, woman, white, black, whatever - I'd prioritize the safety of the human far more than I would the gorilla. If there were a way to get both out of the situation safely it would have been done. Human beings should have a natural instinct to protect their own from harm - that's why we have laws against harming others, and why that's been the norm for pretty much all of human history.

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

We don't discriminate with drone strikes. We don't balk when it's children in the thousands in a differnt country, dying slowly, painfully; but we absolutely give a damn when it's just one, in a situation that could happen to us.

If you don't balk at the notion of letting one child die, why should we believe you could care if thousands do? Is it because 1000 is a bigger number than one? If there were 8,000 of these gorillas instead of only 800, would you not have such apathy for the kid in question?