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Old 06-03-2016, 04:17 PM   #121
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I figured most had seen these, but why not:



Here watch the whole thing...



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- Gorillas have a language of sorts, that they employ to an extent...

- They often fail the mirror test, but we think it might be because eye contact, in the gorilla world is seen as a threat...

- We currently believe that gorillas have a presence of mind, and can seem to understand what others are thinking about.
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Old 06-03-2016, 04:21 PM   #122
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That's not really where you started arguing.
Here's where you started arguing:



Your apology is accepted.
And I still stand by that. Zoos have a vested interest in animal welfare, so long as it serves the zoos interest, just like a Circus.

SOME Zoos operate as sanctuaries simultaneously, not all.

I'm not apologizing to you, for anything.
Once you admit you're in the wrong, We'll all be fine.

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Old 06-03-2016, 09:33 PM   #123
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I'm surprised by how huge this news became. Stuff like this has happened many times before but never reached this type of attention. And while the winning side of the conversation is that it was worth it to save the life of the kid, I am at least happy with the shift among attitudes that was displayed even if it's just a start.

Sadly until the majority of the human population still believes in Abrahamic religions where they think we are somehow special and feel entitled we won't ever reach a majority. This will slowly change overtime as it's already been happening.
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:24 PM   #124
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I'm surprised by how huge this news became. Stuff like this has happened many times before but never reached this type of attention. And while the winning side of the conversation is that it was worth it to save the life of the kid, I am at least happy with the shift among attitudes that was displayed even if it's just a start.

Sadly until the majority of the human population still believes in Abrahamic religions where they think we are somehow special and feel entitled we won't ever reach a majority. This will slowly change overtime as it's already been happening.
What about the Abrahamic religion? Special and entitled?
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Old 06-04-2016, 05:43 AM   #125
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What about the Abrahamic religion? Special and entitled?
The main texts in Abrahameic religions specifically states that humans have dominion over other creatures.

Which, while I agree with some to an extent. Those Yhawehian/Abrehamic text was taken/plagiarized from existing religion and faiths, that's just how religion works, and the mindset of humans being superior over all creatures is not exclusive to Yhawehian/Abrehamic faiths.

Humans are generally just wired that way, we favor the abilities we possess and elevate that to the gold standard. We used to think evolution was about achieving humanoidism and we was the pinnacle while everyone else lagged behind.
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Old 06-04-2016, 09:06 AM   #126
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Poor Darwin, his brilliant observation has been misused and misunderstood pretty much from the get go.

Damn shame really.
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Old 06-04-2016, 09:12 AM   #127
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Poor Darwin, his brilliant observation has been misused and misunderstood pretty much from the get go.

Damn shame really.
Yep. As soon as Darwin made his research public, the first thing people did was say that, "if two turtles can evolve differently, then humans can evolve differently too! That means one race is better than another." Darwin was pretty ticked. I think. Or at least that's what I was told in my sh!tty World History class.
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:03 PM   #128
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We used to think evolution was about achieving humanoidism and we was the pinnacle while everyone else lagged behind.
Used to? That's effectively the argument of this thread, and what's fueling the controversy.
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:54 PM   #130
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How about this one? Apparently 5 alligators have been killed looking for the one that snatched up a toddler.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wil...L&ocid=UP97DHP
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:16 PM   #131
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How about this one? Apparently 5 alligators have been killed looking for the one that snatched up a toddler.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wil...L&ocid=UP97DHP

Not surprised, seeing as the kid was white.

So the gators are down 5-1. I'm sure they'll make a come back, even the score.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:26 PM   #132
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Every now and then they get even.
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I had to laugh at the badger, that's about as extreme as our wildlife can get!
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