Uh...Did I miss something? (Spoiler)

*Krutch* · 06-05-2016, 01:19 AM

So, it's established repeatedly throughout the movie that Raph and Mikey want to become human. But then when they finally have a cure in front of them, and Leo's on board for whatever Raph wants, Raph chucks the cure away, signifying the end of his character arc. And that's cool, I can dig that.

But did I miss something or did they completely skip the part that shows us what changed his mind in the first place?

And I guess Mikey's vote just doesn't count after all

*Shark_Blade* · 06-05-2016, 01:41 AM

Mikey and Donnie were afraid to make that decision so they kept quiet. Leo was pretty much dead on following whatever they want at that point. So it's really Raph who decided and threw that canister.

I was hoping to see them in human form even for a brief moment (like what happened with Donnie's hand -probably could lasted an hour?) but alas. Imagine seeing the human actors!

*Krutch* · 06-05-2016, 01:47 AM

Yeah but I'm saying what changed his mind? Two scenes earlier he was still wanting to become human; then when he's given the option, he tosses it away. What happened?

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I was hoping to see them in human form even for a brief moment

Yeahhhhhh....I'm so happy we didn't get that scene

But to each their own.

*Powder* · 06-05-2016, 01:48 AM

I think there was more to that whole thing & it lays on the cutting room floor. One toy has Leonardo in human clothes with 4 fingers, I'd say that's pretty curious.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 06-05-2016, 02:12 AM

Still haven't seen it, but from the day they announced 4 blonde dudes, it's been suspect. Maybe they're saving it...

But with a 30 million opening weekend, a third go-round a'int likely.

d_osborn · 06-05-2016, 02:24 AM

I'm honestly shocked they didn't have the turtles running around for a chunk of the film as human. They could have saved some major FX money, haha!

~~Commenter 42~~ · 06-05-2016, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by d_osborn

I'm honestly shocked they didn't have the turtles running around for a chunk of the film as human. They could have saved some major FX money, haha!

Right? I'll take reshoots for 1000 Alex...

And maybe that's why the comps are sooooooo terrible....
Maybe that was the plan, but the test audience was like....nonono...

Bay must of been some angry, cheap bastard....

~~mrmaczaps~~ · 06-05-2016, 06:19 AM

Seeing the toys having everyone but Don with a disguise, I thought that scene was going to have Donnie as human and the others in costume to go to the surface rather than Raph tossing it... but I'm really glad they didn't make any of them human...

*TigerClaw* · 06-05-2016, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Mikey and Donnie were afraid to make that decision so they kept quiet. Leo was pretty much dead on following whatever they want at that point. So it's really Raph who decided and threw that canister.

I was hoping to see them in human form even for a brief moment (like what happened with Donnie's hand -probably could lasted an hour?) but alas. Imagine seeing the human actors!

The problem with that is, non of the human actors look like teenagers in RL, they look like they are in there 20s.

*Shark_Blade* · 06-05-2016, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

The problem with that is, non of the human actors look like teenagers in RL, they look like they are in there 20s.

CGI man. Robert Downey Jr did it in Civil War recently. Very convincing.

*Bry* · 06-05-2016, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Krutch

So, it's established repeatedly throughout the movie that Raph and Mikey want to become human. But then when they finally have a cure in front of them, and Leo's on board for whatever Raph wants, Raph chucks the cure away, signifying the end of his character arc. And that's cool, I can dig that.

But did I miss something or did they completely skip the part that shows us what changed his mind in the first place?

Shades of his out-of-nowhere emotional outpouring in the last one? The writers had an idea for a character arc but couldn't be bothered to actually do the work? Starting to smell like a pattern.

newhire13 · 06-05-2016, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Krutch

So, it's established repeatedly throughout the movie that Raph and Mikey want to become human. But then when they finally have a cure in front of them, and Leo's on board for whatever Raph wants, Raph chucks the cure away, signifying the end of his character arc. And that's cool, I can dig that.

But did I miss something or did they completely skip the part that shows us what changed his mind in the first place?

And I guess Mikey's vote just doesn't count after all

I think above all he just wanted to be able to choose for himself as opposed to Leo choosing for them. And in the end the choice was his family and for them to be who they really are.

*samxsteal* · 06-05-2016, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by newhire13

I think above all he just wanted to be able to choose for himself as opposed to Leo choosing for them. And in the end the choice was his family and for them to be who they really are.

This exactly this. There seemed, at least to me, an unspoken communication between Mikey and Raph. And the whole time it was happening I was like just be your selves. And I think that was the message they sent at least that's what I got from it.

06-05-2016, 01:19 AM	#1
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,808	Uh...Did I miss something? (Spoiler) So, it's established repeatedly throughout the movie that Raph and Mikey want to become human. But then when they finally have a cure in front of them, and Leo's on board for whatever Raph wants, Raph chucks the cure away, signifying the end of his character arc. And that's cool, I can dig that. But did I miss something or did they completely skip the part that shows us what changed his mind in the first place? And I guess Mikey's vote just doesn't count after all Last edited by Krutch; 06-05-2016 at 01:48 AM.

06-05-2016, 01:41 AM	#2
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Mikey and Donnie were afraid to make that decision so they kept quiet. Leo was pretty much dead on following whatever they want at that point. So it's really Raph who decided and threw that canister. I was hoping to see them in human form even for a brief moment (like what happened with Donnie's hand -probably could lasted an hour?) but alas. Imagine seeing the human actors!

06-05-2016, 01:48 AM	#4
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	I think there was more to that whole thing & it lays on the cutting room floor. One toy has Leonardo in human clothes with 4 fingers, I'd say that's pretty curious.

06-05-2016, 02:12 AM	#5
~~Commenter 42~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,954	Still haven't seen it, but from the day they announced 4 blonde dudes, it's been suspect. Maybe they're saving it... But with a 30 million opening weekend, a third go-round a'int likely.

06-05-2016, 02:24 AM	#6
d_osborn Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,426	I'm honestly shocked they didn't have the turtles running around for a chunk of the film as human. They could have saved some major FX money, haha!

06-05-2016, 06:19 AM	#8
~~mrmaczaps~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 2,619	Seeing the toys having everyone but Don with a disguise, I thought that scene was going to have Donnie as human and the others in costume to go to the surface rather than Raph tossing it... but I'm really glad they didn't make any of them human...