TMNT 2 Box Office Predictions and Results

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by neatoman

No. At best it's a slight improvement and I can't even agree on that, it's annoying as all hell and feels way longer than it is.

I hope this movie bombs.

Ok you don't like the movie, I get that and I don't care but questioning other peoples opinions who like this movie and trying to force people into changing there minds is just wrong. It's their opinion not yours and you have to accept it.

[Bry]

...oh, come on. The whole section is gonna get shut down again at this rate.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

You ruined your own good time

I said as much already, but this is a really silly argument. Not everybody has your preferences or tastes. If someone didn't like it, they have their reasons and those reasons are totally valid. Acting like everyone has to rewire their brains or change their expectations or standards makes no sense at all. It's nobody's responsibility to enjoy this movie. If they didn't like it, they didn't like it. They were never gonna have a good time in the first place.

Don't blame the viewer for not liking a movie. That's some Megan Fox nonsense.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

It's just a f*cking movie.

Yep, exactly. So why is it worth arguing and insulting others when they express their dislike for it? It goes both ways.

So can we all drop it? This is the box office thread. If the regular threads for discussing/debating the movie got shut down, there's probably a reason for it.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Powder

Another thing that seems to back all that up is right before your eyes, these forums. Pretty quiet. I expected this place to be booming with discussion, but it's only marginally more than a Nick series season finale or something. Pretty quiet. Remember how it was last time? Any given thread in this section had like 3 posts made in it per minute. Total chaos. Granted a little chunk of those posters were casuals who came & went riding a wave of nostalgia.

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Mmmmmno that's probably a big contributing factor.



Yep, I noticed that all throughout the production and the lead up to this weekend.

Nowhere near the amount of "hype" there was last time.

Yeah because the fans that enjoyed the last one got pushes out of these forums. Howw many people got banned because a bunch of users ganged up on them and spam reported them? I can count at least 7. People don't come back to a combative site wanting to talk about something they like when they know there going to get picked on

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yeah. Only the PLANTS during this rodeo, really.

I REST my freaking case.......... .


When people come to a fan site to talk about there movie and get met with people making fun of them they just don't come back

And you all joke like that's a great thing it's not. It's totally not a great thing you push fans away. Smh and it been the same since 2014.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Howw many people got banned because a bunch of users ganged up on them and spam reported them? I can count at least 7.

I'm pretty sure people don't get banned just because they were reported. People get banned because they repeatedly break forum rules.

Originally Posted by samxsteal

People don't come back to a combative site wanting to talk about something they like when they know there going to get picked on

Honestly? Both "sides" are to blame for the hostility. Shots fired in every direction. You can't just point the finger across the room and claim your own side is blameless. You yourself have tossed some insults around more than once. Which isn't to start something here -- just saying that framing this as "good guys vs. bad guys" doesn't represent the reality.

Either way, a forum is a community. People are gonna talk about what they talk about, what they like, what they dislike. And there's always going to be someone who can't handle the conversation and lashes out at people. So... what's the solution to that?

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Bry

I'm pretty sure people don't get banned just because they were reported. People get banned because they repeatedly break forum rules.



Honestly? Both "sides" are to blame for the hostility. Shots fired in every direction. You can't just point the finger across the room and claim your own side is blameless. You yourself have tossed some insults around more than once. Which isn't to start something here -- just saying that framing this as "good guys vs. bad guys" doesn't represent the reality.

Either way, a forum is a community. People are gonna talk about what they talk about, what they like, what they dislike. And there's always going to be someone who can't handle the conversation and lashes out at people. So... what's the solution to that?

But all I'm saying is that when some one come to a site that is meant to be for fans to talk about something they are a fan of only to.be belittled made fun pretty much told they are idiots for being a fan of said thing. They just find an other place to discuss thing somewhere where they can feeling open about how they feel and let's face it this place is not that place anymore.

Also I have never attached users I've witness people threaten others I've seen so much belittling, but I have never directly or purposely insulted someone. Thank you very much.

I know a good 20 users on These forums, who won't step foot into this section because they think it's so toxic. What's their excuse. They just can't handle the internet?

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Hmmm. Not super sure if you're trolling or not but just to err on the safe side I'm not going to bother showing you lots and lots of reviews that say this one was worse than the last one, DESPITE Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krang.

we've all seen the reviews. Those are written by people who watched the movie. Cubed and I were discussing reasons people would not have gone to see the movie. All the promotions did was introduce a bunch of fan favorite characters, so I don't think that's why.

[pdizzle]

Originally Posted by Bry

I'm pretty sure people don't get banned just because they were reported. People get banned because they repeatedly break forum rules.



Honestly? Both "sides" are to blame for the hostility. Shots fired in every direction. You can't just point the finger across the room and claim your own side is blameless. You yourself have tossed some insults around more than once. Which isn't to start something here -- just saying that framing this as "good guys vs. bad guys" doesn't represent the reality.

Either way, a forum is a community. People are gonna talk about what they talk about, what they like, what they dislike. And there's always going to be someone who can't handle the conversation and lashes out at people. So... what's the solution to that?

Sorry but this is a joke anymore. Maybe last movie yes. But a handful of the negative side has made this place unbearable and to act as if certain ones dont do anything but start sh*t is a joke. I got in the middle of some pretty heated arguments last time around then fell away from the forums for a long time and when i came back decided i wouldnt get to the point it got to last time. No one can say Ive been argumentative this time around, yet ive seen the movie, liked it, shared that said opinion, and now im a plant along with anyone else who likes the movie. So tell me, if things are coming from both sides why do the ones who havent even seen the movie feel the need to accuse the ones on a ninja turtle forum of being plants or stupid in their opinion for watching and liking a ninja turtles movie. I honestly dont mind listening to those that have gripes about any film i like only around here it goes beyond that, because for a handful of those, not all, who dont like this movie they set out acting as if their said OPINION is fact and will belittle all that dont agree. And while i barely have the time or energy to keep up with all the BS on this forum I can only speak from my own experience on this forum this time around, so with that being said while their might be a little truth in what your trying to say its a debatable subject but one that is better left undebated cause its kind of invalid anymore. Never the less true or not
Around here it would solve nothing but only further off topic subjects and unneeded conversation in these threads.

[OA]

Sorry to interrupt but when can we expect fresh box office numbers?

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by pdizzle

Sorry but this is a joke anymore. Maybe last movie yes. But a handful of the negative side has made this place unbearable and to act as if certain ones dont do anything but start sh*t is a joke. I got in the middle of some pretty heated arguments last time around then fell away from the forums for a long time and when i came back decided i wouldnt get to the point it got to last time. No one can say Ive been argumentative this time around, yet ive seen the movie, liked it, shared that said opinion, and now im a plant along with anyone else who likes the movie. So tell me, if things are coming from both sides why do the ones who havent even seen the movie feel the need to accuse the ones on a ninja turtle forum of being plants or stupid in their opinion for watching and liking a ninja turtles movie. I honestly dont mind listening to those that have gripes about any film i like only around here it goes beyond that, because for a handful of those, not all, who dont like this movie they set out acting as if their said OPINION is fact and will belittle all that dont agree. And while i barely have the time or energy to keep up with all the BS on this forum I can only speak from my own experience on this forum this time around, so with that being said while their might be a little truth in what your trying to say its a debatable subject but one that is better left undebated cause its kind of invalid anymore. Never the less true or not
Around here it would solve nothing but only further off topic subjects and unneeded conversation in these threads.

Thank you this is exactly what I mean. And I'm 100% sure that a major feel the same way. I think most of it come fro. The passive aggressive way they do it. Seriously I can name almost 20 who pretty much refuse to co.e back to these forums. And that ridiculous that a fan can't go to a fan site to fan boy out about a movie they are a fan of

[Vicky82]

Can we please stay on topic guys, bicker somewhere else

Originally Posted by OA

Sorry to interrupt but when can we expect fresh box office numbers?

Within the next couple of hours.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by OA

Sorry to interrupt but when can we expect fresh box office numbers?

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Can we please stay on topic guys, bicker somewhere else

Seriously. Can we have a "Forum Gripes" thread somewhere for people to get this out of their systems, or something? The complaining about complaining (about complaining about complaining) hijacking every conversation is exhausting.

Hey, new box office estimates! Back on track, then?

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows saw a 4% uptick over Friday in its Saturday grosses with $12.9M sending its industry opening projection to $35M. Paramount will be weighing in soon this morning with their official Sunday AM figure. Armed with that A- CinemaScore, TMNT2 could conceivably leg out to $100M-plus. More kids will be getting out of school; there’s only 52% K-12 out tomorrow, so the Melrose lot can look forward to that. Of the 23 films (of varying different genres and demo appeals) that have opened in the $30M range during June, 19 of them cracked $100M. Only four of them didn’t hit the three century-mark: X-Files, The Purge, The Happening and Ted 2. Essentially, that’s adult-geared, genre or R-rated stuff that missed the three century mark.

After the success of the first movie ($493.3M), it made absolute perfect business sense for Paramount to make another movie, particularly given the franchise history. It just feels like this one is same old, same old in its materials and the film itself. Not to mention, following in the footsteps of Guardians in the Galaxy during the early August period gave fanboys some dessert after hogging out on that Marvel movie. Again, TMNT isn’t a comic book mythology that’s ripe with any popular, cool, or nefarious characters that lend themselves to sequels in the way that the Batman or Avengers possesses in their universes. There isn’t any Bane or Scarlet Witch lurking around for a sequel that’s going to send a stampede into the multiplex. Nor is there a big hook storyline that’s screaming to make it’s way to the big screen (i.e. Donatello the Turtle eats a bad batch of pizza and dies). Kudos to Michael Bay and team for expanding the pedestrian role of April O’Neil in the film series, particularly with starlet Megan Fox. That provided plenty of mileage the first time around in hooking the millennials.

So it's slightly better than yesterday's estimates, but still below expectations (and way below earlier forecasts). Not a guarantee to crack $100m domestic, either. And even just hitting that isn't exactly good, considering the budget and comparison to the last movie's take.

I've seen the comparison already, but it's a pretty fair one: G.I. Joe: Retaliation made $40.5m on its opening weekend with a $130m budget. Except BayTurtles 2 didn't do that well, and had an even bigger drop than the one between G.I. Joe movies. So make of that what you will.

[TigerClaw]

'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2' takes box office with $35 million
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/m...fice/85321376/

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows won the weekend box office with $35.3 million, according to studio estimates.

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by Bry

...oh, come on. The whole section is gonna get shut down again at this rate.

*Has flashbacks to August, 2014.*

Originally Posted by Bry

Seriously. Can we have a "Forum Gripes" thread somewhere for people to get this out of their systems, or something? The complaining about complaining (about complaining about complaining) hijacking every conversation is exhausting.

Hey, new box office estimates! Back on track, then?



So it's slightly better than yesterday's estimates, but still below expectations (and way below earlier forecasts). Not a guarantee to crack $100m domestic, either. And even just hitting that isn't exactly good, considering the budget and comparison to the last movie's take.

I've seen the comparison already, but it's a pretty fair one: G.I. Joe: Retaliation made $40.5m on its opening weekend with a $130m budget. Except BayTurtles 2 movie didn't do that well, and had an even bigger drop than the one between G.I. Joe movies. So make of that what you will.

Goddamn, this movie is getting obliterated. I wonder how fast it'll take them to reboot it?

[Sumac]

I, for one, not interested in this movie, so there is nothing to discuss for me.
Since it still produced by Bay & Co, it's pretty safe what to expect from it and because of this I don't have any interest in the project.
Wake me up, when somebody else will handle the TMNT movies, where they won't look like deformed HULK monstrosities.

[TigerClaw]

It made $35,250,000
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

[Bry]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2' takes box office with $35 million
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/m...fice/85321376/

From the source:

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows won the weekend box office with $35.3 million, according to studio estimates.

But it was a shell of its former self.

Paramount Studio's sequel effort was a long cry from 2014's first Turtle reboot with producer Michael Bay, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which made $65 million in its opening weekend on its was to $493 million at the worldwide box office.

"In 2014, people were running out to see Ninja Turtles out of nostalgia for the past movies and TV show," says Jeff Bock, box office analyst for Exhibitor Relations. "But the fans are clearly not as enthusiastic about one every two years. This is a lesson for Hollywood which is suffering with sequels this summer."

In TMNT2, the sewer-dwelling crimefighters lost out on box office, but did improve with audience reaction. Movie-goers gave the 2014 version a B CinemaScore and the 2016 version received an A- grade. Critics still loathed Out of the Shadows, branding it with a lowly 36% critical score on the review aggregate site RottenTomatoes.com

[NinjaPug]

Will this even make $100 million domestically? It doesn't look like it.

Anyone seen any international figures yet?

[Bry]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Will this even make $100 million domestically? It doesn't look like it.

Anyone seen any international figures yet?

$34m total in the foreign market so far, according to Box Office Mojo. Not sure how many markets that is, though.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Bry

$34m total in the foreign market so far, according to Box Office Mojo. Not sure how many markets that is, though.

It's supposed to be about 40 countries so it's not good but it's still got China, Japan, Australia and all the other euro countries yet.

[TigerClaw]

It shows that the worldwide gross is $69,250,000