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Why get all the anger at Michael Bay, though?
Neither he nor Platinum Dunes ever sought out TMNT as something to exploit. They're hired guns. Why is everyone mad at him/them? If the rights holders to, say, The Crow, sought out Joel Schumacher to do their Crow reboot... should we really get mad at Joel Schumacher for mucking it up? Should he just say no, I don't want your millions of dollars? Would you do that?
Just saying. Let's call a spade a spade and get mad at the right people.
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Who are the right people in this case?
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Wrong?
I've put up the video 3 times. Fuller, of PD chased down, and secured the license. He then convinced Bay to put his name on it, to add cache to the project. Not here say, it's straight from Fullers mouth in a talk he gave to a film school back in 2011. I think the video's been yanked... But I put it up in 2014. PD is responsible, and Bay is an owner of PD. They explicitly stated that their entire business model is exploiting brand recognition. That's entirely the intent. |
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Overlord
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I wonder though... if the movie only has Bay's name on it and nothing else.... was it crammed with so many Micheal Bay-isms? Honestly, they could have just said the movie was filmed, directed and produced by Micheal Bay (even if he didn't) and we wouldn't have known the difference. This has Bay's style all over it. Or did they... for whatever reason... feel the need to 'Bay it up' once he put his name on it?
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At the very least there was confirmation of Bay being responsible for the militarization of The Foot last time. That's reason enough right there.
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I wish that video was still around... It should be searchable here...
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Overlord
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Isn't Michael Bay the one who wanted the Turtles to be aliens from space and Eric Sachs as Shredder? I mean how the hell do you come up with that stuff?
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Though the aliens thing was probably him. He likes aliens, it's his thing. He's a big space nerd. |
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Overlord
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I also want to know whose idea was it to put nostrils on the Turtles.
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I know you hate Eric Sacks more than anyone, but he's by far a better concept than Colonel Schrader, who was the original Blue Door villain.
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Meh there's absolutely no reason to be angry. If it wasn't for Bay and co. we'd never have any films at all. No other producers would approach or even be interested in this franchise but they did.
And I think they did great despite the flaws, just like all the other tmnt movies have flaws. Be grateful and count your blessings. If you don't like it, move along. There's other franchises to be invested in. |
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Realistically, the main reason Bay got the thing is because he was signing a new deal with Paramount and having another franchise under his umbrella sweetened the pot. Like Commenter 42's pointed out, Fuller sought the property out purely to monetize the brand. Check out 10:10 here: Look at him talk: there is absolutely zero love there. He even seems slightly bored about it. (And considering how wildly different the actual movies turned out against how he described them, clearly his "vision" wasn't very strong in the first place.) And then watch the very end of the video. That spells out exactly how cynical an enterprise this was from the start. Which, whatever... It's not his job to be a fan, and while it'd be nice, I dont expect it. It's his job to make good movies, which... he doesn't do either. It's his job to try to understand this property and deliver a stories that please fans and the general audience, as many as possible. Which he didn't do. And considering his tirade about fans being "haters" earlier, I can't say it gives me a great impression. Quote:
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Go watch the Transformers movies and then you'll understand why people don't like Michael Bay.
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I read the thread title and thought this was going to be directed at Brad Fuller and Andrew Form. Consider me disappointed it's not.
Yeah, Paramount/Viacom sucks for not bringing in better creative producers but this shitstain is all on PD. also, to echo what others have said PD definitely sought this franchise out. They thought it was an easy cash grab. It certainly wasn't because they care about the property. |
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Rat-faced Dude-guy
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I was gonna say...he was at least a mouthpiece for that garbage.
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Annalist
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Well THIS is a depressing thread.
Thank you to C42 and Bry for equipping us with further detailed information on this.
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Col. Stinkmeaner
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Buncha haters in here!
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