A Spinoff is Becoming Increasingly Neccessary

[Ceres]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

Yeah, Rook didn't even say a word to Mike, and I kind of doubt she'd be into him anyway. Dude was running around with the skeletal remains of one of her own kind on her head.

As for a replacement Knight, it seems that id not happen.

Shredder probably let the Kraang he captured go once he allied himself with the rest.

Well seeing as Rook is as emotional as a log of wood we surely can assume that romantic antics will never happen with her. Or any other Utrom for that case...

I still would like to Subprime returning to be the KNight, its silly and probably never going to happen but i want to see some bromance moments with him and Bishop!

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

There is no plot amnesia. Its call recurring plots.

No it's called, we're completely forgetting something important we have to do until whenever the episode just happens to be about it, then we suddenly remember how important it is and act upon it.


Honestly, if all it took was for Raph to make fun of Donnie so that he could singlehandedly rescue April's dad, who by all means would have been dead by now, while his brothers are content watching TV and playing pinball..... then Raph should have insulted Donnie long ago.

[Allio]

Let's not forget plot points that get wasted potential

Raph having a Rivalry with Slash would have been amazing

Nope, good guy by his next episode.

[Aaronardo]

Originally Posted by Allio

Let's not forget plot points that get wasted potential

Raph having a Rivalry with Slash would have been amazing

Nope, good guy by his next episode.

Every time I watch Slash and Destroy that very fact pisses me off so much.

How about the Donnie and April dynamic having a good payoff, after having a good setup in The Invasion? Literally destroyed two episodes later in A Foot Too Big. Never ever brought up again.

How about Splinter meeting Leo for the first time since The Invasion and realizing his voice had changed because of his injuries in battle, creating a heartfelt moment, and causing a plotline with Splinter second-guessing his philosophies on anger toward Shredder, leading up to his death in the finale.

So many. Just so many.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Mayne a Mutanimals miniseries?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

No it's called, we're completely forgetting something important we have to do until whenever the episode just happens to be about it, then we suddenly remember how important it is and act upon it.


Honestly, if all it took was for Raph to make fun of Donnie so that he could singlehandedly rescue April's dad, who by all means would have been dead by now, while his brothers are content watching TV and playing pinball..... then Raph should have insulted Donnie long ago.

No its not, its recurring plotlines. When Batman and Spiderman are going on nobody says, "Hey, when was the last time Riddler showed up? They're forgetting him!"

Just like superheroes have recurring villains so does TMNT

[victory_angel]

Remember many of these episodes are written more or less at the same time so the writers aren't able to completely compare notes.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

Remember many of these episodes are written more or less at the same time so the writers aren't able to completely compare notes.

Aren't they control-writing together?

[Splinter the boss]

Sorry, I'm lost, but who is Rook?

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Splinter the boss

Sorry, I'm lost, but who is Rook?

You know how some people got pissed to find out Irma was Kraang Sub-Prime and demanded a "real" Irma? We got a "real" Irma... Who was also an Utrom.

Rook is "real" Irma.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Aren't they control-writing together?

Nope. Peter Di Cicco did give a run down of the writing process on his Tumblr page.

The writing process is pretty intense because we’re generally working on around five different stories in different stages of drafts, not including the 26+ episodes in various stages of production. But for each episode, the stages are laid out into premise, outline, 1st draft, 2nd draft, and record draft, which is the final version that gets recorded by the actors and given to the storyboard artists to start boarding.
One of the great challenges I personally have as a writer is timing the script so that it will work in under 22 minutes (I think if you account for the main title, we only have 21 minutes of actual show time now). And one thing you have to understand about television (at least, basic cable) is shows have to deliver precisely on time. They can’t be even 30 seconds over or under.
Once we see the show in animatic form, stuff almost always ends up getting cut or rewritten for time. Sometimes it actually helps the pacing, sometimes you just need to lose things. You’d be amazed how much a minute or even just 30 seconds of screen time can be.

[Konchadunga]

Not to sound like a broken record, but many of those peripheral characters and their relevant plots are there to sell toys. In fact, quite a number of them were toys long before they were ever in a cartoon. If they made toys for them that aren't getting sold, they might give them more attention to raise more buyer interest.

With some characters, spin-offs may, in fact, be the best way to give that attention. For example, this show, much like certain other action cartoon franchises, seems to be operating under the assumption that female figures don't sell well in a boy-centered toyline, and yet there are plenty lucrative girl-centered toylines so The April Oneal Files might be--or have been, at least--an attempt to address that crowd on somewhat different terms. Many other characters, though, have very little to warrant unique interest in them, and thus are riding wholly on the Ninja Turtles' coattails for their business.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Konchadunga

Not to sound like a broken record, but many of those peripheral characters and their relevant plots are there to sell toys. In fact, quite a number of them were toys long before they were ever in a cartoon. If they made toys for them that aren't getting sold, they might give them more attention to raise more buyer interest.

With some characters, spin-offs may, in fact, be the best way to give that attention. For example, this show, much like certain other action cartoon franchises, seems to be operating under the assumption that female figures don't sell well in a boy-centered toyline, and yet there are plenty lucrative girl-centered toylines so The April Oneal Files might be--or have been, at least--an attempt to address that crowd on somewhat different terms. Many other characters, though, have very little to warrant unique interest in them, and thus are riding wholly on the Ninja Turtles' coattails for their business.

But do children really buy those minor character toys?

[TMNTInsighter]

Like I keep saying, the Mutanimals would make (at the very least) an interesting spinoff. Mutagen Man would certainly be amongst their ranks, he always is! Karai/Miwa would also be able to show what her snake and human form are capable of without stealing the spotlight from the turtle family. We'd get to see more of what drives Slash and how he handles the task and pressure of both caring and leading this family of his. Plus, it's always fun to see our big gator friend Leatherhead--not to mention how he councils Slash.

[Electric]

Ok, Ill give you that there are a couple loose end plots, like mutagen man, Karai (which you forgot to mention), heck Ill even give you the locations of the mutants in NYC right now.


But most of these are uneccessary, and honestly, I hope they dont address them. Ace Duck? Most likely just an easter egg. could they throw him in? sure. do they need to? Nope. The mutants from the farm house episodes and monsters in space had their arcs and time. Could they show back up? Sure. Do they need to? No. Rook and Mikey...what? Chris Bradfords supporting cast? What?

The show should stick to focusing on the main cast. All theses supporting characters can appear and be developed, but they dont need to, nor should they, fully flesh out every possible arc and detail for them.



Yes, some increased plot continuity would be nice, like the 2k3 series. But the nick show from the start has admitted they arent aiming for that. Ciro said at the beginning of the first season that someone could watch any episode, no matter the order, and understand whats going on (something like that). Obviously thats changed a bit, now we have multi part episodes, and full consecutives plotlines following an event (farm house, space), but even little things. I know Karai has taken a backseat, (theyve been a little busy rescuing the world from space) but once she was mutated, multiple episodes addressed her. Even if it was just a opening scene showing them searching for her before another plot occurs, its still continuity.