Squirrel Girl movie?

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

She can have them in 2018, when/if her movie comes out.
(Not only am I hoping it does, but that it kicks ass.)



I've heard very few dudes clamoring for that movie, and far more of them still kvetching that Carol Danvers be Captain Marvel at all, mostly because: "Ugh, I hate it when they change the gender of a character. Stupid SJW!"

Oh yeah I'm sure someone said that. Totally.

And that's why people hate Carol. Hit the nail on the head

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by snake

Oh yeah I'm sure someone said that. Totally.

And that's why people hate Carol. Hit the nail on the head

I guess we go to different websites.
Almost all of the people I know who crow about Danvers being Captain Marvel are women and girls. And most of the talk I've seen regarding Danvers as Captain Marvel from men are people upset that the name was given to a woman.

Clearly your mileage varies.

[TurtleTitan97]

Then those people clearly aren't true fans considering Carol wasn't the first female Captain Marvel. Otherwise they'd have known that.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Then those people clearly aren't true fans considering Carol wasn't the first female Captain Marvel. Otherwise they'd have known that.

Fake Geek Boys are a blight upon the planet, I agree.

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I guess we go to different websites.
Almost all of the people I know who crow about Danvers being Captain Marvel are women and girls. And most of the talk I've seen regarding Danvers as Captain Marvel from men are people upset that the name was given to a woman.

Clearly your mileage varies.

I really don't believe that considering how retarded it sounds. Unless it's on f*cking facebook or something how can you not know that CM is mainly female?


I mean, you can easily just be saying this to make an analogy to "fake geek girls" but I'll take the bait

[plastroncafe]

There's no bait to be taken.
This is my actual experience on the actual internet and in actual convention spaces.
Are there dudes who like Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel? I'm sure there are, but I know like...one personally.
My anecdotal evidence =/= data.

I'm not losing sleep over the fact that you don't believe me.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Carol Danvers has always been the definitive Captain Marvel. I guess "Mar-vell" came first, but as far as I know his biggest claim to fame is being telepathically linked with Rick Jones. Danvers was a well-known Avenger through the '80s.

Anyone complaining about the character being "gender swapped" is effing stupid and has never opened a comic book. I wonder if they're getting confused with the DC "Shazam!" guy. As snake said, only Facebook and tumblr regulars would make that sort of mistake.

I don't know either character very well in the comics, but in the "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" cartoon, Danvers is a badass and Mar-vell is a whiny loser.

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

There's no bait to be taken.
This is my actual experience on the actual internet and in actual convention spaces.
Are there dudes who like Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel? I'm sure there are, but I know like...one personally.
My anecdotal evidence =/= data.

I'm not losing sleep over the fact that you don't believe me.

I'm curious though, is it the facebook/youtube comments crowd that says this?

Oh and I f*cking hate Neo-Carol (the red costume). Just bring back Monicca or use Kamala. For some reason Marvel kept her around even when her book sold below cancellation numbers.

[NinjaPug]

I can see fake geeks complaining about a female Captain Marvel despite the fact that Carol isn't the first to have the title.

Making an unintelligent comment regarding the race/sex of a comic book character fits their profile.

[snake]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I can see fake geeks complaining about a female Captain Marvel despite the fact that Carol isn't the first to have the title.

Making an unintelligent comment regarding the race/sex of a comic book character fits their profile.

I really can't since the ones I've seen online eat any dogsh*t marvel throws at them and praise it while complaining about DC.

[Spike Spiegel]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Anyone complaining about the character being "gender swapped" is effing stupid and has never opened a comic book. I wonder if they're getting confused with the DC "Shazam!" guy. As snake said, only Facebook and tumblr regulars would make that sort of mistake.

I don't know either character very well in the comics, but in the "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" cartoon, Danvers is a badass and Mar-vell is a whiny loser.

Carol was definitely one of the better parts of EMH season 2. Also everybody seems to forget Monica Rambeau.

Back on topic, I agree with the idea that there are other more well known and more interesting female comic characters that would stand a better chance with a broad demographic than Squirrel Girl.

Hell, maybe Joss Whedon would come back to cape flicks if they gave him creative freedom on a Kitty Pryde movie.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by snake

I really can't since the ones I've seen online eat any dogsh*t marvel throws at them and praise it while complaining about DC.

This has nothing to do with Marvel vs DC

[snake]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Hell, maybe Joss Whedon would come back to cape flicks if they gave him creative freedom on a Kitty Pryde movie.

Please no. No no no no no no no no.

[snake]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

This has nothing to do with Marvel vs DC

These "fake geek girls/boys" are mostly marvel fans. The DC ones are just batman fans so they really don't count. I've never seen them angry about anything Marvel except Captain Hydra, and that's because they don't read comics.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Carol was definitely one of the better parts of EMH season 2. Also everybody seems to forget Monica Rambeau.

Back on topic, I agree with the idea that there are other more well known and more interesting female comic characters that would stand a better chance with a broad demographic than Squirrel Girl.

Hell, maybe Joss Whedon would come back to cape flicks if they gave him creative freedom on a Kitty Pryde movie.

I love me some Whedon. Even Age of Ultron, which a lot of people I know dislike for various and sundry reasons. (I like James Spader as the most Whedon Villain to have ever Joss'd a Whedon.)

But, I don't think he'll be back, because there MCU is too much of a cash cow for anyone to be given that much creative freedom again.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Hell, maybe Joss Whedon would come back to cape flicks if they gave him creative freedom on a Kitty Pryde movie.

Whedon bungled up not one but two Avengers films... I think it's best to keep him faaaar away from superhero movies.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I love me some Whedon. Even Age of Ultron, which a lot of people I know dislike for various and sundry reasons. (I like James Spader as the most Whedon Villain to have ever Joss'd a Whedon.)

Ultron was better in the trailer than in the actual film. I kind of get what Whedon was trying to get Spader to do but the poor writing completely kept Ultron from being a remotely interesting villain.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

But, I don't think he'll be back, because there MCU is too much of a cash cow for anyone to be given that much creative freedom again.

It's a double-edged sword. If you let directors run wild, sometimes you end up with an "Incredible Hulk" situation where Edward Norton re-writes the whole thing and they let him get away with it. Or an "Iron Man 3" situation where a director who probably doesn't like comic book is responsible for tackling Iron Man's greatest foe.
On the other hand, studio interference leads to stuff like "Thor 2" or "Age of Ultron".

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I love me some Whedon.

I'm one space away winning my Tumblrite bingo card. Please tell me how much you love Steven Universe and/or Undertale

[Bry]

Originally Posted by snake

I really can't since the ones I've seen online eat any dogsh*t marvel throws at them and praise it while complaining about DC.

So your anecdotal evidence doesn't match someone else's anecdotal evidence?

Huh, go figure.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

It's a double-edged sword. If you let directors run wild, sometimes you end up with an "Incredible Hulk" situation where Edward Norton re-writes the whole thing and they let him get away with it. Or an "Iron Man 3" situation where a director who probably doesn't like comic book is responsible for tackling Iron Man's greatest foe.
On the other hand, studio interference leads to stuff like "Thor 2" or "Age of Ultron".

I think what it comes down to, for me at least, is how much I'm invested in the source material. In the case of the Avengers....I'm not. Like, at all.
I think I've read maybe one Avenger book. That frees me up to accept the movies as they are, rather than what I'd like them to be.

As such...I really like Iron Man 3. I liked what they did both with Tony's PTSD, and the Mandarin.

I also really liked what Norton did with Banner, and it took some time for Ruffalo to grow on me in the beginning.

I'm far less accepting of X-properties, because those are books I was invested in. Same for Jessica Jones, which I enjoyed...but the show pales in comparison to the source material.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

So original. Did you come up with that by yourself?

And Ellie Kemper for Squirrel Girl.

The Unbreakable Squirrel Girl!