China - July 2nd.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Originally Posted by thundermaster612

Monday? Dammit I thought it was today

Saturday was the release, Monday or Tuesday we'll get final, confirmed results back.

As much as I'm on the fence about this turkey, the previous article quoted mentions the gross BEFORE China is added in. Your celebrations are premature, lets see the final take, along with DVD sales and toy sales.

[Vicky82]

As the worldwide gross went from $156M to $188M, I reckon it's done about $20M in China.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=tmnt2016.htm

It's done $26M in China.

http://deadline.com/2016/07/tarzan-i...ts-1201782497/

[Commenter 42]

Paramount’s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out Of The Shadows slid into China with a $26.1M 2-day frame on 6,600 screens. In comparable Saturday releases, TMNT2 was almost double the launch of Big Hero 6; 41% above TMNT in 2014; and 18% higher than Angry Birds earlier this year. TMNT2 has Chinese money in it via Alibaba Pictures as well as a strategeic investor in Wanda and that will most certainly have helped here. What’s more, actor Stephen Amell — well known locally for Arrow — traveled to Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu and Guangzhou to promote the film, in a rare swing through all four cities. His presence was a top trending topic on Weibo.

It’s notable that two of the Top 5 Hollywood movies this week took the bulk of their grosses from China (TMNT2 and NYSM2). By this time last year, the PROC was full bore in its unofficial blackout period as Jurassic World played out. This year, the Middle Kingdom has four Hollywood titles still in the Top 10 (five if we count Warcraft). Resurgence opened just last weekend along with NYSM2 (which has a local partner on marketing) and TMNT2 was let in on Saturday (it has that China investment). Coming up, Tarzan will swing in on July 19.

Some of the thinking goes that the powers that be may be playing nicer with Hollywood given local market share is at an estimated 53% thanks to the outsized performance of The Mermaid earlier in the year. However, watchers believe there is no surefire Chinese hit on deck this July in the vein of Monster Hunt, while April and May were both soft in general at Middle Kingdom turnstiles. Two local titles that bowed this weekend, Bounty Hunters ($18M) and No One’s Life Is Easy ($8.5M) were not firestarters. Among upcoming local titles this month are Cold War II and For A Few Bullets.

So, in the end, it might touch 200m. 210 on the outside.

No matter how you slice it, there's no way they made a profit substantial enough to warrant a sequel, unless they move it to China full stop, which wouldn't surprise me, considering the huge success of Mermaid.

If anything, that looks like the most likely next move.

[TrickOrTreater]

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

If it does as well as the 2014 film in China (and at 42%, it's doing slightly better) it'll finish in China at around 60-70 million. With the two or three markets it still has to open in, this thing could go as high as $240-260 million, or as low as $200 million. If there is a sequel, they will most definitely focus it on china.

[Commenter 42]

Your math doesn't work bruh.

“Teenage Mutant Ninjas Turtles: Out Of The Shadows” claimed top spot at the Chinese box office. It beat local competition from Chinese-Korean action adventure “Bounty Hunters.”


“Bounty Hunters” had the advantage of opening on Friday (July 1), while “Turtles” previewed on Friday before opening wide on Saturday (July 2). But “Bounty Hunters” had its screen count cut to make way for the “Turtles” movie which romped to a weekend win with $25.2 million in two days, according to data from Entgroup. That compared with $17.3 million for “Bounty Hunters” in three days.

The previous week’s chart topper “Now You See Me 2” slipped to third with $15.2 million between Friday and Sunday. That gave it a handsome 10-day cumulative of $81.7 million.


“Independence Day: Resurgence,” the previous weekend’s number two film, continued to trail in the wake of “Now You See Me 2.” It picked up $11.5 million, for a 10 day cumulative of $66.6 million.

Chinese-Korean romance movie “No One’s Life Is Easy” opened on Thursday (June 30) and slipped in to fifth place. Thursday was its strongest day and it finished its four-day opening weekend with $8.62 million.

U.S. animation, “Finding Dory” added $4.97 million. After 17 days it has a modest cumulative total of $35.8 million, that is the best score for a Pixar movie in China.

Behind the top five titles, no other movie earned more than $1 million at the weekend. “Warcraft,” which opened sensationally in early June, added $800,000. After 26 days it has a cumulative score of $220 million.

Johnnie To’s “Three” faded fast. It earned $640,000 over the second weekend, for a 10-day score of $14.6 million.

Chinese thriller, “The Precipice Game” opened on Friday. After three days, it managed $450,000 for seventh place. Chinese animation, “The Adventure of the Ugly Duckling” opened on Saturday and took $410,000 for eighth place.

No way is this climbing up to 260.

With all other markets, might get to 220... but that's a long shot, and the point is, it's nowhere near break-even.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

The first one did 60$ million in china, this one's tracking slightly better, according to the reports, so it may bring in the same haul, if not slightly over. With 25$ million in the pot from China already, that's another 35$ million from china to throw on top of that 188$ million worldwide it's already made- and that's not adding in other markets. But that figure is dependent on it making what the first one made in china total. So yes, it could just drop off from here, and finish at 200$ million. Or it could go as high as 220$-230$ million.

It doesn't matter anyway, it's still not enough to get a sequel made, unless it's China-focused. We'll just have to wait and see over the next few weeks.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

The first one did 60$ million in china, this one's tracking slightly better, according to the reports, so it may bring in the same haul, if not slightly over. With 25$ million in the pot from China already, that's another 35$ million from china to throw on top of that 188$ million worldwide it's already made- and that's not adding in other markets. But that figure is dependent on it making what the first one made in china total. So yes, it could just drop off from here, and finish at 200$ million.

It doesn't matter anyway, it's still not enough to get a sequel made, unless it's China-focused. We'll just have to wait and see over the next few weeks.

Ok, that's fair.

To be honest, if the director from Mermaid was in for the reboot, it could be, good? I don't know. XD

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Ok, that's fair.

To be honest, if the director from Mermaid was in for the reboot, it could be, good? I don't know. XD

Hey, don't get me wrong, I'm not thrilled with Bayturtles, either. In my perfect world, we'd get a soft reboot set in China, based on the Archie story arc with Warrior Dragon, Ninjara, and Chien Kahn, and without Platium Dunes or Bay's involvement. But that's never going to happen

[Commenter 42]

As juvenile as they are, I love most of Stephen Chow's films.

Guilty pleasure. It wouldn't be Mirage-esque, but It would be legit funny.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

As juvenile as they are, I love most of Stephen Chow's films.

Guilty pleasure. It wouldn't be Mirage-esque, but It would be legit funny.

a TMNT film directed by Stephen Chow would have way more martial arts then any TMNT movies combined.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

a TMNT film directed by Stephen Chow would have way more martial arts then any TMNT movies combined.

I'm looking forward to watching Mermaid. His style is just flat out fun.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

As juvenile as they are, I love most of Stephen Chow's films.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

a TMNT film directed by Stephen Chow would have way more martial arts then any TMNT movies combined.

I know I've said this before, but Chow could direct the hell out of a TMNT movie. No matter what direction he took, I would be on board. He'd be guaranteed to do something truly fun and interesting with it, far more than the D-listers Bay's put in the director's chair to surrogate for him. Chow's the real deal.

I'm repeating myself, but hey, if you want a TMNT movie with amazing martial arts fight scenes, then...

[thundermaster612]

So is it enough for a 3rd movie or what?

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

I do agree, a Steven Chow TMTN film would be hilarious! But it'd be great to see any Hong Kong/Chinese martial arts director handle a TMNT film!


There is no one better to do a TMNT martial arts film, that the directors and studio system who are experts at making martial arts films! These are the filmmakers who created the movies that inspired TMNT, and it was a bad idea to give it to American filmmakers like the kind that gave us Bayturtles, rather than a director like Chow, Ang Lee or Harak who excel at making this kind of stuff. The studio system that gave us the martial arts and fight choreography of the original turtles film, are the best people to make a TMNT film!

[IndigoErth]

http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/9...ox-offices.htm

Paramount Picture's "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows" is dominating China's box office.(Photo : YouTube Screenshot)


Paramount Picture's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows is sitting in the top spot at the Chinese box office after ousting Lee Min Ho's Bounty Hunters.

Despite the remarkable opening for the Chinese-Korean comedy action movie on Friday, July 1, Ninja Turtles managed to catch up and even surpass Bounty Hunters. It raked in $26.1 million in a 2-day frame from 6,600 screens, thanks to its Chinese backing from Alibaba Pictures and strategic investor Wanda Group. Bounty Hunters, on the other hand, pulled in $17.3 million in three days.

Other than the Chinese firms' support, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle was also well-promoted as Arrow actor Stephen Amell personally took a rare tour through four Chinese cities including Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu, and Guangzhou ahead of the opening. His appearance was a hot topic on social media in China.

Trailing behind in the third spot is last week's top grosser Now You See Me 2, with $15.2 million between Friday and Sunday. All in all, the American caper thriller film has accumulated $81.7 million in 10 days.

Last week's number two Independence Day: Resurgence has now slipped to the fourth spot, earning $11.5 million over the weekend, and a total of $66.6 million for the 10 days cumulative.

Korean movie No One's Life is Easy (So I Married an Anti-Fan), which opened on Thursday, slid down the fifth place, earning a total of $8.62 million over its four-day opening weekend.

After over two weeks of showing, Pixar's Finding Dory still secured a spot on number six with $4.97 million, adding to its $35.8 million cumulative total after 17 days.

Meanwhile, even if it opened om June, Warcraft still managed to add $800,000 over the weekend, summing its cumulative total to $220 million in 26 days.

What on average are considered high earnings in China?

Warcraft flopped elsewhere but went nuts in China. The Turtles ("$26.1 million in a 2-day frame") are presently on top while Dory ("$35.8 million cumulative total after 17 days") has already slipped down to 6th place. China... you are a master at unpredictability.


I suppose it's not too surprising it is taking it's first week, since it did here, too, but what is opening for China next; what is the competition?



Edit:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-tmnt-2-908348

Opening Saturday, the family-friendly sequel earned a solid $25.2 million in two days. That's slightly less than its predecessor's $26.5 million debut in 2014, but more impressive given that the first film debuted on a Friday and had three days on screens. On Monday, TMNT 2 added $5 million, bringing its three-day total to $30.2 million, according to Beijing box office tracker Ent Group.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by thundermaster612

So is it enough for a 3rd movie or what?

Only if it can be funded with this:

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Your math doesn't work bruh.

No way is this climbing up to 260.

With all other markets, might get to 220... but that's a long shot, and the point is, it's nowhere near break-even.

And let's hypothetically say it does get to 260, even 280. Let's say even 300, or a step or two into profitability. Financiers can still only afford to gamble that a potential second sequel in any kind of movie series like this will do only half of what the last movie did. Which, since TMNT 2 dropped over half from TMNT 1, is really going to be the prevailing logic when even passingly considering any kind of a TMNT 3.

[thundermaster612]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Only if it can be funded with this:

http://images.plantcaretoday.com/wp-...c-05312015.jpg

Funded with your drugs? hell no.

So there is a sly chance of a 3rd, not taking from what NDB said but if they do raise some more money or not we either get: 1. A normal turtles 3, 2. turtles 3 but its less turtle-centric, 3. semi normal or something but it takes quite a while for it to come out, or 4. gg rip.

There ought to be someone who replies saying NUMBER FAWR PLIZ

So don't bother neato (or anybody else who doesn't want it for that matter)

(EDIT: also how much did the 1st movie completely make?)

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by thundermaster612

Funded with your drugs? hell no.

So there is a sly chance of a 3rd, not taking from what NDB said but if they do raise some more money or not we either get: 1. A normal turtles 3, 2. turtles 3 but its less turtle-centric, 3. semi normal or something but it takes quite a while for it to come out, or 4. gg rip.

There ought to be someone who replies saying NUMBER FAWR PLIZ

So don't bother neato (or anybody else who doesn't want it for that matter)

(EDIT: also how much did the 1st movie completely make?)

The first one made close to 500m, and they announced a sequel within a week of it's opening.

This one is having a hard time breaking 200, with Bay's camp silent since it's pathetic bow.

So.......