Watching the OT in X-Files "Mythology" style

Danetello · 07-10-2016, 05:52 PM

So recently I have been marathon watching all of the X-Files from start to end, and when I was looking up the best ways to watch the series (DVD, iTunes, etc), I found that you could buy the series in several different formats. One was purely the "mythology" arc, which Fox seems to endorse since they even released a DVD set that was the mythology episodes only.

That got me thinking about the TMNT and how I would go about watching it if I wanted to cut all the non-essential stuff, and really try to follow the over all "mythology". Yeah, I know, with OT that is a slight stretch, but there are threads there that certainly are worthy, such as the multiple returns of Baxter and his degeneration into a mindless fly; the Technodrome on its seemingly never ending journey to its ultimate doom in Dimension X; and most of seasons 8, 9, and 10 have an overall arc to them. Basically, I wanted to cut things like "Polly Wanna Pizza", (I mean, really, anyone?...), and keep everything like season 1, The Big Blow Out trilogy, anything involving recurring characters such as Slash, Rat King, etc.

So I came up with the following list. I wondered if anyone else had any other input. Any other worthy episodes for the list? This isn't intended as a bashing post, but purely how I described it - cutting the "villain/monster of the week" stuff and keeping what is important. I actually ended up keeping well over half, only ditching 87 out of 193 in the end, which surprised me since I didn't realise there would be so much I felt was that important (admittedly I did keep some episodes that I felt were "classics," too, even if they didn't add too much over all).

My list:

Spoiler:

*CyberCubed* · 07-10-2016, 05:56 PM

Yeah, I can see this. But even then the OT has a lot of great episodes with only one-shot characters, or character-centric ones about the turtles themselves like, "What's Michaelangelo good for?" or "Raphael Vs. the Volcano."

In a show like the original toon a "filler list" doesn't really matter.

*Shark_Blade* · 07-10-2016, 05:59 PM

My only essential list is just Season 1.

*ToTheNines* · 07-10-2016, 06:11 PM

Just skimmed your list, one glaring omission I noticed was "Beneath These Streets". Can't start season 3 without it.

Danetello · 07-10-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Just skimmed your list, one glaring omission I noticed was "Beneath These Streets". Can't start season 3 without it.

Ah! Thanks! That takes the omitted count down to 86 of 193.

*CyberCubed* · 07-10-2016, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

My only essential list is just Season 1.

The rest of the show has some great eps too. You should give it a chance.

*ToTheNines* · 07-10-2016, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danetello

Ah! Thanks! That takes the omitted count down to 86 of 193.

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I was suggesting adding and episode, not removing.

Danetello · 07-10-2016, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

??

I was suggesting adding and episode, not removing.

In my original post I say that the amount that I left out was 87. Adding one to the watch list makes that 86.

*ToTheNines* · 07-10-2016, 07:11 PM

Oh, Jesus. Long day at work... pardon my poop brain.

*MikeandRaph87* · 07-10-2016, 07:13 PM

I would omit Mobster From Dimension X as it adds nothing to the series and is rather dull and unconnected at the end of the series.

I would add 'Beneath These Streets' episode 19 just as ToTheNines suggested as well as the episode that followed it 'Turtles On Trial' episode 20. The Turtles basically reveal themselves to the public in that one.

Danetello · 07-10-2016, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Oh, Jesus. Long day at work... pardon my poop brain.

No worries, lol.

Danetello · 07-10-2016, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

I would omit Mobster From Dimension X as it adds nothing to the series and is rather dull and unconnected at the end of the series.

I would add 'Beneath These Streets' episode 19 just as ToTheNines suggested as well as the episode that followed it 'Turtles On Trial' episode 20. The Turtles basically reveal themselves to the public in that one.

Thanks! I'll update the list shortly

*sdp* · 07-10-2016, 07:36 PM

Yeah I never like these lists, just because nothing that moves the plot forward doesn't mean it's not good and many are much better than the actual episodes that move the plot forward. The term filler is misused nowadays when in the past it only referred to those terrible episodes of anime that had no value.

*Cipher* · 07-10-2016, 11:17 PM

That's actually not a terrible list if you want to revisit the old series in a fondly nostalgic way, or just get a general feel for how it worked.

By cutting "Leonardo Lightens Up," you're cutting the single most amazing episode the show though. In fact, I'd say it's the only must-see entry.

*oldmanwinters* · 07-11-2016, 12:09 AM

Probably have to include "The Catwoman from Channel Six" since it is Irma's introduction to the Turtles.

*snake* · 07-11-2016, 01:00 AM

That's a cool list and totally fits. Personally I'd just end it at season 8.

*Shark_Blade* · 07-11-2016, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The rest of the show has some great eps too. You should give it a chance.

Yes I did but upon rewatching it's always Season 1 that pulls me in.

It's got the best animation of the whole seasons so there's that too.

Danetello · 07-12-2016, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Probably have to include "The Catwoman from Channel Six" since it is Irma's introduction to the Turtles.

Thanks! I'll add it!

Danetello · 07-12-2016, 07:05 PM

New list as per suggestions below. New list totals 109 out of 193 episodes, therefore omitting 84.

Spoiler:

*CyberCubed* · 07-14-2016, 01:55 AM

No, "Shredder's Mom" episode? I'd say his mother is an important part of knowing why OT Shredder is the way he is. He was a son whose mother never appreciated him enough.

07-10-2016, 05:52 PM	#1
Danetello Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 571	Watching the OT in X-Files "Mythology" style So recently I have been marathon watching all of the X-Files from start to end, and when I was looking up the best ways to watch the series (DVD, iTunes, etc), I found that you could buy the series in several different formats. One was purely the "mythology" arc, which Fox seems to endorse since they even released a DVD set that was the mythology episodes only. That got me thinking about the TMNT and how I would go about watching it if I wanted to cut all the non-essential stuff, and really try to follow the over all "mythology". Yeah, I know, with OT that is a slight stretch, but there are threads there that certainly are worthy, such as the multiple returns of Baxter and his degeneration into a mindless fly; the Technodrome on its seemingly never ending journey to its ultimate doom in Dimension X; and most of seasons 8, 9, and 10 have an overall arc to them. Basically, I wanted to cut things like "Polly Wanna Pizza", (I mean, really, anyone?...), and keep everything like season 1, The Big Blow Out trilogy, anything involving recurring characters such as Slash, Rat King, etc. So I came up with the following list. I wondered if anyone else had any other input. Any other worthy episodes for the list? This isn't intended as a bashing post, but purely how I described it - cutting the "villain/monster of the week" stuff and keeping what is important. I actually ended up keeping well over half, only ditching 87 out of 193 in the end, which surprised me since I didn't realise there would be so much I felt was that important (admittedly I did keep some episodes that I felt were "classics," too, even if they didn't add too much over all). My list: Spoiler: Turtle Tracks Enter the Shredder A Thing About Rats Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X Shredder and Splintered Return of the Shredder The Incredible Shrinking Turtles It Came from Beneath the Sewers The Mean Machines Curse of the Evil Eye The Case of the Killer Pizzas Enter The Fly Invasion of the Punk Frogs Teenagers from Dimension X Return of the Technodrome Zach The Fifth Turtle Enter the Rat King Return of the Fly Outlaw Hero – Casey Jones Corporate Raiders from Dimension X Pizza by the Shred Super Bebop & Mighty Rocksteady Beware the Lotus Leatherhead Terror of the Swamp Michelangelo's Birthday Usagi Yojimbo Usagi Come Home The Making of Metalhead Leatherhead Meets the Rat King The Great Boldini The Missing Map The Grybyx Shredderville Bye, Bye, Fly The Big Rip Off The Big Break In The Big Blow Out Plan 6 from Outer Space The Dimension X Story Four Turtles and a Baby Planet of the Turtles Son of Return of the Fly Bebop and Rocksteady Conquer the Universe Raphael Meets His Match Slash: The Evil Turtle from Dimension X Were-Rats from Channel 6 Farewell, Lotus Blossom Rebel Without a Fin Rhino-Man Leonardo VS Tempestra! Splinter Vanishes! Big Bug Blunder The Foot Soldiers are Revolting The Turtles and the Hare Once Upon a Time Machine My Brother, the Bad Guy Michaelangelo Meets Mondo Gecko Enter Mutagen Man Muckman Messes Up Napoleon Bonafrog: Colossus of the Swamps Landlord of the Flies Donatello's Duplicate Leonardo Cuts Loose Zach and the Alien Invaders Planet of the Turtleloids, Part 1 Planet of the Turtleloids, Part 2 Rock Around the Block Krangenstein Lives Return of the Turtleoid Shreeka's Revenge Donatello Trashes Slash Night of the Dark Turtle The Legend of Koji White Belt, Black Heart Night of the Rogues Attack of the Neutrinos Escape from the Planet of the Turtleloids Revenge of the Fly Atlantis Awakes Dirk Savage: Mutant Hunter Invasion of the Krangezoids Shredder Triumphant Get Shredder Wrath of the Rat King State of Shock Cry H.A.V.O.C.! H.A.V.O.C. in the Streets Enter: Krakus Cyber-Turtles Turtle Trek The Unknown Ninja Dregg of the Earth The Wrath of Medusa The New Mutation The Showdown Split-Second Carter, the Enforcer Doomquest The Return of Dregg The Beginning of the End The Power of Three A Turtle in Time Turtles to the Second Power Mobster from Dimension X The Day the Earth Disappeared Divide and Conquer __________________ Dan. Check out all of my TMNT reviews here!

07-10-2016, 07:13 PM	#10
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	I would omit Mobster From Dimension X as it adds nothing to the series and is rather dull and unconnected at the end of the series. I would add 'Beneath These Streets' episode 19 just as ToTheNines suggested as well as the episode that followed it 'Turtles On Trial' episode 20. The Turtles basically reveal themselves to the public in that one. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

07-10-2016, 07:36 PM	#13
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,216	Yeah I never like these lists, just because nothing that moves the plot forward doesn't mean it's not good and many are much better than the actual episodes that move the plot forward. The term filler is misused nowadays when in the past it only referred to those terrible episodes of anime that had no value. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

07-11-2016, 12:09 AM	#15
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,497	Probably have to include "The Catwoman from Channel Six" since it is Irma's introduction to the Turtles. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

07-12-2016, 07:05 PM	#19
Danetello Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 571	New list as per suggestions below. New list totals 109 out of 193 episodes, therefore omitting 84. Spoiler: Turtle Tracks Enter the Shredder A Thing About Rats Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X Shredder and Splintered Return of the Shredder The Incredible Shrinking Turtles It Came from Beneath the Sewers The Mean Machines Curse of the Evil Eye The Case of the Killer Pizzas Enter The Fly Invasion of the Punk Frogs Teenagers from Dimension X The Catwoman from Channel Six Return of the Technodrome Beneath these Streets Turtles on Trial Zach The Fifth Turtle Enter the Rat King Return of the Fly Outlaw Hero – Casey Jones Corporate Raiders from Dimension X Pizza by the Shred Super Bebop & Mighty Rocksteady Beware the Lotus Leatherhead Terror of the Swamp Michelangelo's Birthday Usagi Yojimbo Usagi Come Home The Making of Metalhead Leatherhead Meets the Rat King The Great Boldini The Missing Map The Grybyx Shredderville Bye, Bye, Fly The Big Rip Off The Big Break In The Big Blow Out Plan 6 from Outer Space The Dimension X Story Four Turtles and a Baby Planet of the Turtles Son of Return of the Fly Bebop and Rocksteady Conquer the Universe Raphael Meets His Match Slash: The Evil Turtle from Dimension X Were-Rats from Channel 6 Farewell, Lotus Blossom Rebel Without a Fin Rhino-Man Leonardo VS Tempestra! Splinter Vanishes! Big Bug Blunder The Foot Soldiers are Revolting The Turtles and the Hare Once Upon a Time Machine My Brother, the Bad Guy Michaelangelo Meets Mondo Gecko Enter Mutagen Man Muckman Messes Up Napoleon Bonafrog: Colossus of the Swamps Landlord of the Flies Donatello's Duplicate Leonardo Cuts Loose Zach and the Alien Invaders Planet of the Turtleloids, Part 1 Planet of the Turtleloids, Part 2 Rock Around the Block Krangenstein Lives Return of the Turtleoid Shreeka's Revenge Donatello Trashes Slash Night of the Dark Turtle The Legend of Koji White Belt, Black Heart Night of the Rogues Attack of the Neutrinos Escape from the Planet of the Turtleloids Revenge of the Fly Atlantis Awakes Dirk Savage: Mutant Hunter Invasion of the Krangezoids Shredder Triumphant Get Shredder Wrath of the Rat King State of Shock Cry H.A.V.O.C.! H.A.V.O.C. in the Streets Enter: Krakus Cyber-Turtles Turtle Trek The Unknown Ninja Dregg of the Earth The Wrath of Medusa The New Mutation The Showdown Split-Second Carter, the Enforcer Doomquest The Return of Dregg The Beginning of the End The Power of Three A Turtle in Time Turtles to the Second Power Mobster from Dimension X The Day the Earth Disappeared Divide and Conquer __________________ Dan. Check out all of my TMNT reviews here!

07-10-2016, 05:56 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	Yeah, I can see this. But even then the OT has a lot of great episodes with only one-shot characters, or character-centric ones about the turtles themselves like, "What's Michaelangelo good for?" or "Raphael Vs. the Volcano." In a show like the original toon a "filler list" doesn't really matter.

07-10-2016, 05:59 PM	#3
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	My only essential list is just Season 1.

07-10-2016, 06:11 PM	#4
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,345	Just skimmed your list, one glaring omission I noticed was "Beneath These Streets". Can't start season 3 without it.

07-10-2016, 07:11 PM	#9
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,345	Oh, Jesus. Long day at work... pardon my poop brain.

07-10-2016, 11:17 PM	#14
Cipher Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,454	That's actually not a terrible list if you want to revisit the old series in a fondly nostalgic way, or just get a general feel for how it worked. By cutting "Leonardo Lightens Up," you're cutting the single most amazing episode the show though. In fact, I'd say it's the only must-see entry.

07-11-2016, 01:00 AM	#16
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	That's a cool list and totally fits. Personally I'd just end it at season 8.

07-14-2016, 01:55 AM	#20
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	No, "Shredder's Mom" episode? I'd say his mother is an important part of knowing why OT Shredder is the way he is. He was a son whose mother never appreciated him enough.