Fox and Marvel to possibly announce a Fantastic Four Partnership - Page 2

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-12-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Is everyone still convinced he died in the Battle of New York?

I hope so!

*Spike Spiegel* · 07-12-2016, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I hope so!

It just seems like Stark or Romanoff would have figured it out.

Or maybe Coulson would have told Banner or Cap. Given what happened in Civil War we know that

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*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-12-2016, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

It just seems like Stark or Romanoff would have figured it out.

Or maybe Coulson would have told Banner or Cap. Given what happened in Civil War we know that

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I'll give you that. Widow would probably have figured it out...

Still. I prefer Coulson dead. And I prefer Quicksilver alive. Marvel just won't let me win.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-12-2016, 08:21 PM

Huh. Hellfire Club fell through, new show in the works (as Andrew alluded);

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men/...llfire-a143383

*NinjaPug* · 07-12-2016, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Huh. Hellfire Club fell through, new show in the works (as Andrew alluded);

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men/...llfire-a143383

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He'll executive produce with Bryan Singer, Lauren Shuler Donner, Simon Kinberg

Nope nope nope

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-12-2016, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Nope nope nope

yup. still the same hacks at the wheel.

*chrisdude* · 07-13-2016, 12:08 AM

Fantastic Four may not have been a well-paced, or well-directed film, but I'd definitely prefer to see a continuation of that story. But, it would be great to see Reed Richards in the MCU. I'd really like to see the Illuminati, at some point.

And, as I've belabored before, I don't support this enthusiasm for cramming all the Marvel franchises under one roof and a singular leadership. Yeah, the connected universe approach sells more comics, and now, more movie tickets, but that doesn't mean it's what's best for the quality of the individual products. Can you imagine writing for a Marvel comic or film, and constantly being forced into every annual comic cataclysm, or having to steer your film into the next Avengers movie? Just look at how many MCU films have had their stories driven by infinity stones. That wasn't because the writers and directors thought it would make for a better film... I'd rather see very different writers and directors each taking their own unburdened approach.

*Spike Spiegel* · 07-13-2016, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude

Fantastic Four may not have been a well-paced, or well-directed film, but I'd definitely prefer to see a continuation of that story. But, it would be great to see Reed Richards in the MCU. I'd really like to see the Illuminati, at some point.

And, as I've belabored before, I don't support this enthusiasm for cramming all the Marvel franchises under one roof and a singular leadership. Yeah, the connected universe approach sells more comics, and now, more movie tickets, but that doesn't mean it's what's best for the quality of the individual products. Can you imagine writing for a Marvel comic or film, and constantly being forced into every annual comic cataclysm, or having to steer your film into the next Avengers movie? Just look at how many MCU films have had their stories driven by infinity stones. That wasn't because the writers and directors thought it would make for a better film... I'd rather see very different writers and directors each taking their own unburdened approach.

In that case, I guess you can look at the state of Marvel's comic line over the last ten to fifteen years and extrapolate those trends in the context of phases four, five, and beyond.

Eventually the movie fanbase's expectations will shrink and become even more repetitive and narrowly focused, just like those of the comic fanbase. I would expect that the number of people continuing to see the films would shrink as well.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-13-2016, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Is everyone still convinced he died in the Battle of New York?

Except Lady Sif, who appeared twice on Agents of SHIELD. But they literally made it an in-story poitn to have Coulson tell her not to tell Thor he was alive.

The whole thing is all pretty puzzling and disappointing, the apparent hard line between the TV shows (Netflix included) and the movies. But I guess it's better than WB/DC's... significantly harder line -- a impermeable wall, really -- between TV and movies.

Cryomancer · 07-13-2016, 12:43 AM

Getting FF back into Marvel films would be mostly worth it for the villains, yeah. Doom, Galactus, Namor (he might be with universal still?). Reed as a supporting cast "figure out this high tech thing for us" character would be cool too. Thing for when they want a Hulk that isn't a Hulk.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-13-2016, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cryomancer

Getting FF back into Marvel films would be mostly worth it for the villains, yeah. Doom, Galactus, Namor (he might be with universal still?). Reed as a supporting cast "figure out this high tech thing for us" character would be cool too. Thing for when they want a Hulk that isn't a Hulk.

Yup, yup, Doom too. Doom and Galactus would be HUGE in the MCU, with or without the FF or Surfer.

Galactus alone gives all of their heroes an enormous threat to build towards in Phase 4, 5, etc. that's as big or bigger than Thanos. In the interim they could covertly introduce the FF in some fashion (not necessarily a standalone movie, but setting the stage for one ala Spider-Man in Civil War), Doom too, to pay off dividends in later movies. Keeping things new and fresh. Even the X-Men, after Singer has completed skull-f*cking the franchise.

*Raven* · 07-13-2016, 03:05 PM

Bring in Galactus and Doom, that would fill a great void the MCU seems to be dealing with in terms of interesting and thought out villains. Civil War was fantastic but Baron whats his name Zemo was dull and boring.

So yea, more doom less um boring guys...

*Andrew NDB* · 07-13-2016, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

Bring in Galactus and Doom, that would fill a great void the MCU seems to be dealing with in terms of interesting and thought out villains. Civil War was fantastic but Baron whats his name Zemo was dull and boring.

So yea, more doom less um boring guys...

And no more mindless robot hordes (i.e., Iron Man 2, Avengers 1, Avengers 2).

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-13-2016, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And no more mindless robot hordes (i.e., Iron Man 2, Avengers 1, Avengers 2).

Also Iron Man 3.

*CyberCubed* · 07-13-2016, 04:01 PM

I don't know how far in advance Marvel is still planning these moves in continuity. By the time we get into the 2020's all the actors will be rather old...I don't know how much longer they're going to do this for.

Certainly there has to be an endgame in sight or at least a reboot at some point.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 07-13-2016, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Certainly there has to be an endgame in sight or at least a reboot at some point.

I think Infinity War Pt. II will be when we say goodbye to the Avengers as we know them.

*Spike Spiegel* · 07-13-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

So yea, more doom less um boring guys...

But who would play him?

*TigerClaw* · 07-13-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

I think Infinity War Pt. II will be when we say goodbye to the Avengers as we know them.

and say hello to new members, since the Avengers roster changes all the time.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-13-2016, 04:13 PM

I think the general game plan for the MCU is to have a good 3 movie run with each guy's solo series, then 1 or 2 Avengers movies... then halfway sideline those guys while pushing new guys' solo trilogies and such into new Avengers movies, while quietly recasting the original bunch and then coming back with 4th movies to those. Rinse and repeat, always sneaking new guys in there.

*Spike Spiegel* · 07-13-2016, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I think the general game plan for the MCU is to have a good 3 movie run with each guy's solo series, then 1 or 2 Avengers movies... then halfway sideline those guys while pushing new guys' solo trilogies and such into new Avengers movies, while quietly recasting the original bunch and then coming back with 4th movies to those. Rinse and repeat, always sneaking new guys in there.

So basically, making every hero the star of their own James Bond style franchise?

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chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	Fantastic Four may not have been a well-paced, or well-directed film, but I'd definitely prefer to see a continuation of that story. But, it would be great to see Reed Richards in the MCU. I'd really like to see the Illuminati, at some point. And, as I've belabored before, I don't support this enthusiasm for cramming all the Marvel franchises under one roof and a singular leadership. Yeah, the connected universe approach sells more comics, and now, more movie tickets, but that doesn't mean it's what's best for the quality of the individual products. Can you imagine writing for a Marvel comic or film, and constantly being forced into every annual comic cataclysm, or having to steer your film into the next Avengers movie? Just look at how many MCU films have had their stories driven by infinity stones. That wasn't because the writers and directors thought it would make for a better film... I'd rather see very different writers and directors each taking their own unburdened approach. __________________ PSN/Miiverse: MikeFarber

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Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	Getting FF back into Marvel films would be mostly worth it for the villains, yeah. Doom, Galactus, Namor (he might be with universal still?). Reed as a supporting cast "figure out this high tech thing for us" character would be cool too. Thing for when they want a Hulk that isn't a Hulk. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,559	I think the general game plan for the MCU is to have a good 3 movie run with each guy's solo series, then 1 or 2 Avengers movies... then halfway sideline those guys while pushing new guys' solo trilogies and such into new Avengers movies, while quietly recasting the original bunch and then coming back with 4th movies to those. Rinse and repeat, always sneaking new guys in there. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

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CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	I don't know how far in advance Marvel is still planning these moves in continuity. By the time we get into the 2020's all the actors will be rather old...I don't know how much longer they're going to do this for. Certainly there has to be an endgame in sight or at least a reboot at some point.