DreamEx Krang - Page 2

cloud · 07-14-2016, 06:11 PM

Yeah, 3rd party typically mean the party thats neither the company acquired the license nor the license holder.
They often get away by making certain characters but not featuring their real names or logos. Basically a loop. Hole to make something that is otherwise illegal for the most part. Example would be the First Gokun series

old_hob88 · 07-14-2016, 08:28 PM

These are third party. Viacom is the primary license holder, playmates is second party, ergo dream ex, mondo, neca, et al are all 3rd party licensees. The term you're looking for with regards to first gokin is "bootlegger". Albeit bootlegs that greatly exceed the quality of the second party license holder.

*Powder* · 07-14-2016, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by old_hob88

These are third party. Viacom is the primary license holder, playmates is second party, ergo dream ex, mondo, neca, et al are all 3rd party licensees. The term you're looking for with regards to first gokin is "bootlegger". Albeit bootlegs that greatly exceed the quality of the second party license holder.

Yeah, that's what I thought...

*CyberCubed* · 07-14-2016, 09:14 PM

So if I understand that right, Playmates still makes a profit when all these other companies like NECA and DreamEX sell their toys? I'm disappointed if that's true, Playmates doesn't deserve the money of other companies who make quality figures.

hitmonkey · 07-15-2016, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So if I understand that right, Playmates still makes a profit when all these other companies like NECA and DreamEX sell their toys? I'm disappointed if that's true, Playmates doesn't deserve the money of other companies who make quality figures.

That can't be true. If Playmates was making money from everyone else's efforts, I can't imagine they'd be such a pain in NECA's ass. It'd be much easier for them to sit back and rake in their cut of the profits.

*DVD* · 07-15-2016, 02:33 AM

Lisencing is a complicated business.
The thing is that the term "third party" when used by collectors in the toy business (and other lisenced areas) simply refers to those products that are not lisenced. It can't be compared to a legal term per say.

As for who gets a cut of what profits: that's all down to the individuals involved.

Raptor86 · 07-15-2016, 02:49 AM

I think that's where the term "third party" came from (in the toys business):

"A third-party Transformer toy is a transformable toy created / intended to be part of the Transformers series by an unlicensed 3rd party toy company. These toys can be completely original designs, new molds based on existing characters, add-on sets for existing Transformers toys."

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Third-party_Transformer

Splinter · 07-15-2016, 07:27 AM

Toyark has a new picture of a physical version of Krang from Tokyo...

As I believe the original was just a render. Sweet Christmas he's huge.

http://news.toyark.com/2016/07/15/dr...ng-kong-210837

*DVD* · 07-15-2016, 08:00 AM

Cooooool!!!! And a full color version of Leo.
Great pic.

EddieNES · 07-15-2016, 08:28 AM

Wow. That Leo looks solid. Love the look of him.
Can't wait to see Don!

*Candy Kappa* · 07-15-2016, 10:59 AM

Damn, that Leo looks good. With some color the sculpts pop and looks x1000 times better.

TurtlePower85 · 07-15-2016, 12:12 PM

Love, love, love this Krang. This is going to be a great series of figures!!!

07-15-2016, 02:49 AM	#27
Raptor86 Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palermo, Italy Posts: 553	I think that's where the term "third party" came from (in the toys business): "A third-party Transformer toy is a transformable toy created / intended to be part of the Transformers series by an unlicensed 3rd party toy company. These toys can be completely original designs, new molds based on existing characters, add-on sets for existing Transformers toys." http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Third-party_Transformer __________________ TMNTItalia

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Splinter Radical Rat Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Splinter's Dojo Posts: 1,531	Toyark has a new picture of a physical version of Krang from Tokyo... As I believe the original was just a render. Sweet Christmas he's huge. http://news.toyark.com/2016/07/15/dr...ng-kong-210837 __________________ R.I.P. Master Splinter - Mirage Comics - May 1984 / June 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - New Episode Guide

07-15-2016, 08:28 AM	#30
EddieNES Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 957	Wow. That Leo looks solid. Love the look of him. Can't wait to see Don! __________________ TMNT Script https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kUi...w?usp=drivesdk Fortnite Maps https://fortnite.gg/creator?name=eddienes

07-15-2016, 10:59 AM	#31
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Damn, that Leo looks good. With some color the sculpts pop and looks x1000 times better. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

07-14-2016, 06:11 PM	#21
cloud Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 738	Yeah, 3rd party typically mean the party thats neither the company acquired the license nor the license holder. They often get away by making certain characters but not featuring their real names or logos. Basically a loop. Hole to make something that is otherwise illegal for the most part. Example would be the First Gokun series

07-14-2016, 08:28 PM	#22
old_hob88 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Baltimore, Marlyand Posts: 249	These are third party. Viacom is the primary license holder, playmates is second party, ergo dream ex, mondo, neca, et al are all 3rd party licensees. The term you're looking for with regards to first gokin is "bootlegger". Albeit bootlegs that greatly exceed the quality of the second party license holder.

07-14-2016, 09:14 PM	#24
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	So if I understand that right, Playmates still makes a profit when all these other companies like NECA and DreamEX sell their toys? I'm disappointed if that's true, Playmates doesn't deserve the money of other companies who make quality figures.

07-15-2016, 02:33 AM	#26
DVD Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Shanghai Posts: 2,066	Lisencing is a complicated business. The thing is that the term "third party" when used by collectors in the toy business (and other lisenced areas) simply refers to those products that are not lisenced. It can't be compared to a legal term per say. As for who gets a cut of what profits: that's all down to the individuals involved.

07-15-2016, 08:00 AM	#29
DVD Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Shanghai Posts: 2,066	Cooooool!!!! And a full color version of Leo. Great pic.

07-15-2016, 12:12 PM	#32
TurtlePower85 Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 42	Love, love, love this Krang. This is going to be a great series of figures!!!