Man of Steel 2

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by AT-Man

Great, now y'all just spoiled that Superman will get revived in DCEU!

So dumb. They actually go to the trouble of doing the Death of Superman in DC Cinematic Universe Movie #2, and they can't even make it to the end of the movie without spoiling his resurrection.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'd say Abrams, given what he's done for Star wars and Star Trek

What, you mean this?



The best thing he did for Star Trek was having mostly nothing to do with the latest one. And TFA was pretty much just a study in how to "lift" a movie with only a slight coating of anything original.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

You know who might make a good Superman film? Cameron.

Hear me out.

Think about the sci-fi of Superman. It's the part they rarely explore. Think about the menagerie of aliens. Would be interesting. Superman off-world.

I'd say Abrams, given what he's done for Star wars and Star Trek, but he already had a shot, and his ideas were a little meh.
Maybe he's grown.

I don't like Superman [which probably makes my liking of Man of Steel incredibly appropriate because it was his personality that I liked] but I would be all over this.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

What, you mean this?

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The best thing he did for Star Trek was have mostly nothing to do with the latest one. And TFA was pretty much just a study in how to "lift" a movie with only a slight coating of anything original.

Both massive successes.

I don't care that he effectively lifted TFA. It makes the most sense. Life is circular, SW is a circular story. The next gen should be repeating the path of the last, with a twist. The film was pretty great. Lucas tried to give fans something completely different with the prequels, and the results were a disaster.

for Star Trek, he did the same. Most people can't endure the original Trek series...it's tedious. TNG is easier to fun, Enterprise is impossible.

He opened it up, and cast well. He has a knack for getting the right people on board. 2009 was also the first time I felt VFX offered a space that reflected the cool Sci-fi of the 50's and 60's... it looked like it had been ripped from the mind of Asimov or Phillip K. Dick.
Production design is very important to me though... often more than the director, and sometimes even the story.

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

I don't like Superman [which probably makes my liking of Man of Steel incredibly appropriate because it was his personality that I liked] but I would be all over this.

Have you ever watched Superman the movie, or Superman 2?

[NinjaPug]

This version has already been ruined so much that it would take a great writer/director for me to get excited about this. Please don't continue trying to deconstruct Superman. Also, please don't kill main characters by shooting them in the head in a throwaway scene because you think it's "fun". Keep The ****** version of Lex away from this too.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Have you ever watched Superman the movie, or Superman 2?

I'm having trouble remembering them. If I've watched them, it was when I was way younger. I remember Superman Returns, though, and I remembered not liking it.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

I'm having trouble remembering them. If I've watched them, it was when I was way younger. I remember Superman Returns, though, and I remembered not liking it.

Superman Returns was terrible, terrible and more terrible. It was horrible. bland. Yuck.

If you get around to it, try Superman the movie.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Superman Returns was terrible, terrible and more terrible. It was horrible. bland. Yuck.

If you get around to it, try Superman the movie.

I go by C42s word. Superman 1978 is my favourite superhero film of all time and of my favourite films in general.

[Spike Spiegel]

I like MOS and BVS as well as the Donner movies, but Returns is the worst to me. Superman '78 is a little dated but still the best. Reeve's acting as both Superman and Kent is absolutely amazing. You really think it's a different person when he puts on the glasses.

I don't think Returns should be in the DVD/Blu ray sets with the older Reeve films...even Superman IV deserves better.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

If Synder is not involved with this then I have some hope for this. I was recently given a collection of Superman: The Man of Tomorrow comics and I have to say, these are a really enjoyable read. It makes me love Superman more than I already have. What happened DC? This was your golden boy up until the mid 2000s.

Is there anybody on this forum that prefers Superman over Batman?

[ToTheNines]

Me. Batman undoubtedly has a better rogues gallery and some great allies too, but I much prefer Superman as a character and all of the mythology that comes with him.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Superman Returns was terrible, terrible and more terrible. It was horrible. bland. Yuck.

If you get around to it, try Superman the movie.

Yup, it was really bland and I think I even fell asleep the first time.

I'll give Superman the movie a shot, though. My dad really enjoys it so next time he's complaining about there not being anything on TV again, hopefully I'll remember this and bring it up.

[Andrew NDB]

Superman 1 and 2 were fine for their time, but no, they haven't held up well at all. Christopher Reeve's performance is always stellar... but just about everything else is pretty dodgy and camp after the movie leaves Smallville. In recent years I've tried to have several people who have never seen any of the Reeve Superman movies sit down and watch them with me (they kind of are "must see" movies in terms of the historical significance of them) and it's always a struggle.

[Spike Spiegel]

With the right plot and writer, I think Superman is the best character in mainstream comics.

One of the things I liked about MOS was being able to see him as that kind hearted, relatable Kansas kid. Like that scene when
he goes to visit Martha and throws back a beer. Sure, he has godlike powers and stuff, but at the same time there is a recognizable emotional core to him.

As it says in the John Byrne comics from the 80s, being from Krypton gives him his powers, but the Earth and her people are what make him human.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Yup, it was really bland and I think I even fell asleep the first time.

I'll give Superman the movie a shot, though. My dad really enjoys it so next time he's complaining about there not being anything on TV again, hopefully I'll remember this and bring it up.

It's a feel good film. It DOES hold up, unless you want to nitpick effects, but that would be like chastising the work of Ray Harryhausen, despite being a pioneer.

If you want a punchy punch though, this ain't it.

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

With the right plot and writer, I think Superman is the best character in mainstream comics.

Superman done right, is the best, no contest.
He's been gone for a long time.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Superman 1 and 2 were fine for their time, but no, they haven't held up well at all. Christopher Reeve's performance is always stellar... but just about everything else is pretty dodgy and camp after the movie leaves Smallville. In recent years I've tried to have several people who have never seen any of the Reeve Superman movies sit down and watch them with me (they kind of are "must see" movies in terms of the historical significance of them) and it's always a struggle.

I'm not too concerned with that, honestly. My parents have recently taken to watching old Star Treks and I make it through those just fine. Apparently that's pretty difficult to do.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

I'm not too concerned with that, honestly. My parents have recently taken to watching old Star Treks and I make it through those just fine. Apparently that's pretty difficult to do.

You should be fine then.

Reeve just is Superman. That's the problem, really. Cavill doesn't Superman well, at all. You need an actor that can pull it off; find that and the rest will almost take care of itself.

[Netkeeper]

Oh, that does remind me of my shallow-ness showing whenever I don't want it to and I'll admit I've always found Superman ugly until Man of Steel. whoops please don't put this one on my permanent record

[The Deadman]

Can we have this guy be the villain for the sequel if nobody wants Lex or Zod?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Reeve just is Superman. That's the problem, really. Cavill doesn't Superman well, at all. You need an actor that can pull it off; find that and the rest will almost take care of itself.

Have to disagree with you, sir. Cavill Supermans just fine. The points where he's allowed to full-on be Superman, they work fantastically. Granted, he doesn't become a fully formed Superman until the end of Man of Steel... and then, granted again, until he remembers he already became Superman at the end of the last movie near the end of BvS again.

Imagine Cavill in just about any scene back in Superman: The Motionless Picture, and it'd work just fine. Possibly better, no disrespect to Reeve.