Harry Potter and the Cursed Child

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

#2. Voldy wouldn't have wanted an heir.

He doesn't even need an heir! Voldemort's life plan was literally to live forever!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

He doesn't even need an heir! Voldemort's life plan was literally to live forever!

Exactamundo. You get it.

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, but he still had sex with Bellatrix so even if he didn't love her, there had to be another motive or why would he even do that? My guess is that even if he felt he'd live forever, he probably figured it would be best to have a back up plan just in case that plan failed and so he made sure he had an heir to carry on his name. Either that or he just wanted to get laid, didn't use protection and popped out a kid. Either way, Delphi was born.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Yes, but he still had sex with Bellatrix so even if he didn't love her, there had to be another motive or why would he even do that? My guess is that even if he felt he'd live forever, he probably figured it would be best to have a back up plan just in case that plan failed and so he made sure he had an heir to carry on his name. Either that or he just wanted to get laid, didn't use protection and popped out a kid. Either way, Delphi was born.

Just because a book got published with Rowling's name on it doesn't mean it should have happened or makes any sense given the canon of the original seven stories. It flies against everything Rowling told us about Voldemort; it is a mistake. If it WAS a backup plan, that should have been explicitly mentioned somewhere.

I liked Delphi as a character, but she could have simply been the daughter of Bellatrix or some such. Hmm... Bellatrix and Lucius's kid, maybe? Draco's half-sister?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Either that or he just wanted to get laid, didn't use protection and popped out a kid.

I don't know why it couldn't just be as simple as this.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't know why it couldn't just be as simple as this.

Voldemort was entirely obsessed with death. He killed muggles, wizards, his own Death Eaters - whoever he felt like killing. He went so far as to destroy his own soul. There's no reason he'd engage in an act that results in brand new life.

[plastroncafe]

Voldemort wasn't obsessed with death, he was obsessed with immortality. In cheating death. That's why he fractured his own soul into pieces: because he wanted to cheat death itself.

Tom Riddle was incapable of feeling love, due to his own conception having not involved any love to begin with. His mother raped his father by means of a love potion.

A man so obsessed with immortality wouldn't have any issue at all at trying to obtain it through any means necessary. Including the good ol' fashioned way of making an heir.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Voldemort wasn't obsessed with death, he was obsessed with immortality. In cheating death. That's why he fractured his own soul into pieces: because he wanted to cheat death itself.

Tom Riddle was incapable of feeling love, due to his own conception having not involved any love to begin with. His mother raped his father by means of a love potion.

A man so obsessed with immortality wouldn't have any issue at all at trying to obtain it through any means necessary. Including the good ol' fashioned way of making an heir.

Immortality and having an heir are two completely different things.

Living forever versus your family name or bloodline living forever? Not the same thing.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Immortality and having an heir are two completely different things.

Living forever versus your family name or bloodline living forever? Not the same thing.

Apple and oranges are still both fruit.
Having an heir is a form of immortality.

[Electric]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Immortality and having an heir are two completely different things.

Living forever versus your family name or bloodline living forever? Not the same thing.

While I agree with you there, the Dark Knight Rises' Ras Al Ghul is ringing in my head

"There are many forms of immortality, Bruce"

Hence, Talia

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Apple and oranges are still both fruit.
Having an heir is a form of immortality.

Absolutely, but from what we've read, I really don't think Voldemort would see it that way.

Having a kid would be a helluva lot easier than living on the back of Quirrell's head. That level of obsession (plus the whole "pieces of eight" debacle) speaks to immortality for ME, not some brat who doesn't deserve my blood and name. Or so I imagine Riddle would see it.

Remember, he hated his own bloodline. Hated his muggle father.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Electric

While I agree with you there, the Dark Knight Rises' Ras Al Ghul is ringing in my head

"There are many forms of immortality, Bruce"

Hence, Talia

Yes, but now we're comparing a terrorist to Hitler. Different levels of evil and crazy.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Absolutely, but from what we've read, I really don't think Voldemort would see it that way.

Having a kid would be a helluva lot easier than living on the back of Quirrell's head. That level of obsession (plus the whole "pieces of eight" debacle) speaks to immortality for ME, not some brat who doesn't deserve my blood and name. Or so I imagine Riddle would see it.

Remember, he hated his own bloodline. Hated his muggle father.

His Muggle father.
A child born of him and a witch would have more magic. He'd be breeding out the muggle impurity.

Not only that, but it would speak to the Blood Supremacy desires of many of his followers.

And...there's the possibility of using that child as an additional horcrux, thus making him able to finally rid himself of Harry Potter without killing himself entirely.

This is all fanwank and conjecture on my part, because I haven't read Cursed Child.
But I don't think it's beyond the realm of the possible, or out of character, for Voldemort to create a child to use it elsewhere for some other purpose.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

His Muggle father.
A child born of him and a witch would have more magic. He'd be breeding out the muggle impurity.

Not only that, but it would speak to the Blood Supremacy desires of many of his followers.

And...there's the possibility of using that child as an additional horcrux, thus making him able to finally rid himself of Harry Potter without killing himself entirely.

This is all fanwank and conjecture on my part, because I haven't read Cursed Child.
But I don't think it's beyond the realm of the possible, or out of character, for Voldemort to create a child to use it elsewhere for some other purpose.

I don't see it at all.

Still, go get a copy from the library or B&N and give it a read. It's definitely worth reading once for Scorpius and Albus.

[plastroncafe]

I'm kind of holding out for a recording of the London performance.
(not a fan of reading plays)

[BubblyShell22]

I'm glad some people agree with my theory. Riddle definitely hated his family and where he came from, but creating an heir gives him a plan of still having his line live on even if he dies. Makes me wonder when he did this within the realm of the seven books though.

[Andrew NDB]

Is it so weird that he might like to have sex every once in a while? Even if he's into evil and immortality and all of that? I don't understand why there needs to be so many layers read into it.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Is it so weird that he might like to have sex every once in a while? Even if he's into evil and immortality and all of that? I don't understand why there needs to be so many layers read into it.

I like to think that unlike this world, the Harry Potter one has spectacular birth control.

[Jester]

SPERMICIDUS INSIDE-US!!!


Sorry...I'll stop.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

His Muggle father.
A child born of him and a witch would have more magic. He'd be breeding out the muggle impurity.

Not only that, but it would speak to the Blood Supremacy desires of many of his followers.

And...there's the possibility of using that child as an additional horcrux, thus making him able to finally rid himself of Harry Potter without killing himself entirely.

This is all fanwank and conjecture on my part, because I haven't read Cursed Child.
But I don't think it's beyond the realm of the possible, or out of character, for Voldemort to create a child to use it elsewhere for some other purpose.

I had similar thoughts. Or, a child of his blood could possibly be a safety net if he found a spell to take over that body should something happen to his again.