Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 15: City At War

[TigerClaw]

Finally watched it since my Tivo recorded it, thought it was a pretty good episode, it wasn't an exact adaption of City at War, but I thought Shinigami was a cool character, and looks like Mikey has a thing for her, so now Mikey has two women he's fallen for.

who knew that the Dragon's Tail move was.

Spoiler:

a kick between the legs, TigerClaw never saw that coming.

[shredder orokusaki]

So this foolish little girl took control of my old lair! But not for long! Tigerclaw with tear her apart! SHE WILL PAY FOR WHAT SHE DID TO ME! MUHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[neatoman]

So did April use the Dragon's Tail incorrectly or is the technique reallt just a kick in the balls? Because it would be hilarious if that was the case.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by neatoman

So did April use the Dragon's Tail incorrectly or is the technique reallt just a kick in the balls? Because it would be hilarious if that was the case.

Yep, it's gotta be a kick between the nuts, even Donnie states that it is.

[Zatoichi]

Yeah, that is the 2nd or 3rd time that has happened to poor Tiger Claw. He should really wear a cup.

[TigerClaw]

Donnie says "The Dragon tail! Right in the fur patch!"

[Aaronardo]

Aaaaaaagh. Everyone (well, basically Powder) beat me to it. Yeah this episode was definitely more solid than most of the space arc, however that's not saying much. The episode was on the right track with the interactions between the Turtles, Splinter, and April at the beginning. But then clashing plot points happened. This episode was so confused as to what it wanted to be, it barely used any plot from the arc it's literally named after.

And yeah, Shredder's beatdown wasn't THAT bad. He was literally kicked a bunch of times in the air in Showdown and chomped up by a mutant alligator in The Invasion and emerged with no problems, but punched couple of times by Splinter? He's on life support. Consistency, please.

One of the best episodes of season 4 so far. And that's just pathetic.

(Also idk about you guys, but the villain's hideout reminded me of the house Cap and Black Panther are in in the mid-credits scene of Civil War)

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Aaronardo

One of the best episodes of season 4 so far. And that's just pathetic.
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Season 4 has been almost consistently good, so I don't see the problem.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Season 4 has been almost consistently good for me, so I don't see the problem.

Fixed that for you.

[neatoman]

First Hun throwing the puck at Casey and now the Dragon's Tail, does it state in Bauza's contract that every character he plays needs to be part of at least one nutshot joke?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by neatoman

First Hun throwing the puck at Casey and now the Dragon's Tail, does it state in Bauza's contract that every character he plays needs to be part of at least one nutshot joke?

Best post in the entire thread. I laughed hard for a solid 2 minutes.

But if thats the case irl, i wouldnt be surprised.

[Electric]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Season 4 has been almost consistently good, so I don't see the problem.

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Fixed that for you.

Thank you Gold.

Season 4 has been a let down for me so far, simply because I tend to not like when the turtles get away from the basics (New York, Ninjas, Kraang)
The space arc felt very rushed, messy and to me not that enjoyable. Less focus on characters, more focus on introducing new worlds and new characters every episode. was it bad, nah, but not for me.

Cubed should still be banned

[TMNTInsighter]

Excuse me? It's GM who needs to be banned for "fixing" posts if nothing else.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by TMNTInsighter

Excuse me? It's GM who needs to be banned for "fixing" posts if nothing else.

Seems we've been acquainted before, but I'll handshake you if we need a reintroduction. Name's GoldMutant/GM, the continuous critic of the Nick section in recent months.... (enough small talk)

Though a joke on my part, Insighter you've never dealt with Cube. All I did was throw one remark in, no harm no foul. Cube though... let's just say majority of what he does is a pain in the butt. It's generalizations like the one I corrected where I scratch my head, they sound more of fact than anything. There's your reasoning, now back to the episode.
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I can't believe I missed this in my previous thoughts, am I the only one that really liked Xever's "interesting fish in the world" line? I know it's a bit creepy for him to do that and derides Xever, but it got a big laugh out of me.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Powder

This one just did not do it for me. How are you gonna name an episode after arguably the greatest TMNT story ever told & have it focus on her many abilities & insecurities? I realize it's an homage in name only, but c'mon, save that for something else. April is straight up OP. I'm glad Raph had something to say about it, at least. I've really come to dislike the liberties this show sometimes takes with respect to X kicking Y's ass for the sake of plot convenience. April besting Tigerclaw, Shinigami besting all 4 turtles & April, just generally turning villains into pushovers (& super goofy ones, at that), etc. Some of it can be explained away or even justified but in this case it felt forced. Splinter's secret technique is a kick to the groin? "Right in the fur-pouch!" was pretty funny, anyway. Shredder is that badly messed up from Splinter's frenzy in the last episode? I re-watched the fight, it's not one I'd have expected Saki to be in critical condition over, let alone requiring mutagen to get better/live. Their temporary housing is cool, very familiar. Can't place it just yet.

It did bring some interesting things to the table, such as Shinigami (whose design I love, I am curious to see what she does), Karai trying to take lead of The Foot Clan, & the potential for more interaction between her & Splinter. I enjoyed seeing the return of ICK & Cheesicles, too. I dunno, maybe this had some hype to live up to, in my mind, after the long ass hiatus & infamous episode title, & it didn't quite meet the mark. I guess I can expect at least a little more of the same, considering the opening revealed that the Elite Guard I was so excited to see, are robots. Oh well, just glad it's back. Can't wait to see what comes as a result of Shredder's absence.

I really like this episode, but I agree with Powder that it seemed a waste to use the "City at War" title on this one ep. However, I have a feeling the rest of the season will be City at War themed, so I'm not too disappointed. I'll even predict that the next DVD release will be titled "City at War" just like Season 4, Part 1 encapsulated the "Beyond the Known Universe" theme. Here's hoping anyway.

One neat homage to the original Mirage comics was Karai acting genuinely independent of Shredder in her efforts to reform the Foot Clan. Even the 4Kids show introduced Karai but did so as an ally of Saki who had a moral code. In that sense, the Nick show comes closer to the dynamics of the Mirage arc, in which Karai has her own motives that don't seem to involve advancing the goals of Shredder.

[TMNTInsighter]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

...However, I have a feeling the rest of the season will be City at War themed, so I'm not too disappointed. ...

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Exactly! There's no need for others to get so worked up right now.

[Jester]

Kinda my thought too. Strong return but really needed a different name.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by TMNTInsighter

Excuse me? It's GM who needs to be banned for "fixing" posts if nothing else.

Originally Posted by TMNTInsighter

Exactly! There's no need for others to get so worked up right now.

You trollin, or what?

[lonewarrior20]

i really enjoyed it. i kept waiting for mikey to bring up bradfords cartoon when he and shinigami were fighting him. can't wait to see more karai.

[snake]

Just watched the episode. I loved it. Restored my faith in the writing team honestly. Let's hope the rest of this story is just as good.