Fan-Edits

[Powder]

Are there any? I don't mean AMV's or joke dubs, I mean versions of the film(s) with certain scenes removed that either waste time, break the flow, have a terrible joke, plot holes, or generally distract from the turtles themselves. I'd really love to make one myself, to get rid of the crude humor, remove as much of the human nonsense as possible without hurting the plot, & alter some of the moments where the laws of physics are greatly abused.

I think they could be a lot more enjoyable on a whole this way, maybe even with the two being cut together into one. Thoughts?

[Jester]

I wonder if there's a way to weed both movies down to one good film....

[Andrew NDB]

I've been pretty big into making fan-edits in my day... this one wouldn't be worth the time or the effort. And I'm a guy considering working on a NT:TNM edit.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Interesting proposal. I mean, no matter how much you do, you still can't get away from certain questionable aspects of the films.

But it could only help.

[IndigoErth]

Well, some of the backstory would have to be assumed, but you could certainly take out the lab and hogosha stuff, let child April just turn into a separate child who dumped her pets for some reason, and cut to the flashback about them mutating and skip the book nonsense.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Well, some of the backstory would have to be assumed, but you could certainly take out the lab and hogosha stuff, let child April just turn into a separate child who dumped her pets for some reason, and cut to the flashback about them mutating and skip the book nonsense.

I guess you could hypothetically edit in the actual origin story footage from TMNT 1990 and use it in TMNT 2014. Saki kills Yoshi (maybe rotoscope in a younger William Fichtner sort of presiding over it). Rat becomes Splinter. Turtles become Turtles. Edit out anything in the movie saying or showing otherwise.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I think the PD films are truly unsalvagable.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

I think the PD films are truly unsalvagable.

They are. I mean, barring rotoscoping the Turtles as they appear in the movie and replacing them with different CGI versions (ones that don't look like ass), removing whole characters... if you have the inclination (and time) to do so, you might as well just make your own Turtles movie at that point.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I've been pretty big into making fan-edits in my day... this one wouldn't be worth the time or the effort. And I'm a guy considering working on a NT:TNM edit.

TNM could actually make for some decent flicks by eliminating all the filler stock-footage and incessant sound effects.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Jester

I wonder if there's a way to weed both movies down to one good film....

Don't know about the two PD films, but Ninja Turtles (1990) and Secret of The Ooze would work as it happened one right after the other timeline wise.


Next Mutation? East Meets West and Unchain My Heart would work, but still the quality is abysmal.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Don't know about the two PD films, but Ninja Turtles (1990) and Secret of The Ooze would work as it happened one right after the other timeline wise.

Next Mutation? East Meets West and Unchain My Heart would work, but still the quality is abysmal.

You can do a lot with the footage. Changing the aspect ratio and trimming the tops and the bottoms (en-widescreening it), running some filters over it to boost it into 1080p, bringing the color palette over to more of the look and feel of the 1990 movie... way higher contrast, less saturation. Removing all sound effects and redoing all of the voices (to suit entirely different dialogue). Adding a few extra hits here and there with the help of CGI, some blood here and there.

It's possible. There could be a 90 minute movie in there that's a pretty decent TMNT sequel.

[Jephael]

Here's a better idea: accept the movies for how they were made and move on with your lives!

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Jephael

Here's a better idea: accept the movies for how they were made and move on with your lives!

[neatoman]

Well if someone ever finds the scrapped footage from the first one is ever found, someone could make the "Shredder wants to get stupid rich" cut as an alternative to the theatrical "Sacks and Shredder wants to get stupid rich" cut.

A cut of the second one I would recommend if cut scenes were found would be something like this:

1. Downplay Bebop and Rocksteady as much as possible
2. Cut out the "we could be humans" subplot
3. Cut the "Falcon" except for what's necessary, that is to say him taking the glory for defeating Shredder.
4. Cut April and Casey in jail.
5. And for the love of god, if you can find something that puts more emphasis on Krang and/or Shredder put that in, because the movie desperately needed some explaination for why they were doing anything throughout the entire movie. If no such footage exist, add a text crawl or something that fills in these gaps.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Jephael

Here's a better idea: accept the movies for how they were made and move on with your lives!

I 100% agree with that comment.

Fan-Edits are just that, versions of movies where the fans take out the parts they hate, and they are pretty much illegal, it's infringing on copyright.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You can do a lot with the footage. Changing the aspect ratio and trimming the tops and the bottoms (en-widescreening it), running some filters over it to boost it into 1080p, bringing the color palette over to more of the look and feel of the 1990 movie... way higher contrast, less saturation. Removing all sound effects and redoing all of the voices (to suit entirely different dialogue). Adding a few extra hits here and there with the help of CGI, some blood here and there.

It's possible. There could be a 90 minute movie in there that's a pretty decent TMNT sequel.

Hey Andrew, that reminds me... are you still moving forward on doing your own fan cut of Next Mutation?

EDIT: A dozen posts up; my bad. Question answered.

New question: where are you at on that?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

New question: where are you at on that?

Well, I did find a good video "source" for all the episodes. My computer is in the shop being beefed up, but I really can't work on anything until "Dark Places" is put to bed in post. The Highlander people are flying me to Florida to premiere it at the Highlander 30th Anniversary con and it's gotta be done and polished.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Well, I did find a good video "source" for all the episodes. My computer is in the shop being beefed up, but I really can't work on anything until "Dark Places" is put to bed in post. The Highlander people are flying me to Florida to premiere it at the Highlander 30th Anniversary con and it's gotta be done and polished.

Sorry, I know nothing of Highlander. Is Dark Place a Highlander fan film you've done?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Sorry, I know nothing of Highlander. Is Dark Place a Highlander fan film you've done?

It's a long story, but it's a fully authorized, full-length "Highlander" film in the same universe as (most of) the films and the TV show. I even got one of the TV show actors to reprise a role in it.

http://www.facebook.com/highlanderdarkplaces

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It's a long story, but it's a fully authorized, full-length "Highlander" film in the same universe as (most of) the films and the TV show. I even got one of the TV show actors to reprise a role in it.

http://www.facebook.com/highlanderdarkplaces

Wow! So basically like TMNT Image Conclusion, but officially corporately endorsed?