Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 18: Mutant Gangland

*Vicky82* · 09-04-2016, 04:25 AM

Awesome episode, it was intense. It did feel more of a filler than last weeks episode though.

It looks like Pidgeon Pete won't be returning, I wonder if there's been a problem with his voice actor or IDW told Nick not to use him anymore.

Last week a had a theory (I posted it on Tumblr, not here) that Splinter may be killed off soon because he seemed to help with the turtles fear and weaknesses. In Broken Foot he had to talk to Leo about the bad things about going solo and keeping it a secret. Last week he was helping Raph's fear.

In this episode it looks like Splinter's death is being foreshadowed because he was saying to the turtles that he won't be around for long and he's worried about there weaknesses and still need to mature.

MarsicornYT · 09-04-2016, 04:58 AM

Yeah, I thought that was an awesome episode. It was kind of a filler, but it still linked back to the City at War plot because they were trying to take over because Shredders 'gone.' Loved Leatherhead's booyakasha at the end. And seeing how this second half of the season is going so far (going really good), if they do kill off Splinter it's going to be even sadder than the last time.

*ToTheNines* · 09-04-2016, 05:23 AM

I've been singing "Mutant Gangland" to the tune of Baba O'Riley by The Who all weekend lol. Psyched for 11.

Mugen_Jin18 · 09-04-2016, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

Awesome episode, it was intense. It did feel more of a filler than last weeks episode though.

It looks like Pidgeon Pete won't be returning, I wonder if there's been a problem with his voice actor or IDW told Nick not to use him anymore.

Last week a had a theory (I posted it on Tumblr, not here) that Splinter may be killed off soon because he seemed to help with the turtles fear and weaknesses. In Broken Foot he had to talk to Leo about the bad things about going solo and keeping it a secret. Last week he was helping Raph's fear.

In this episode it looks like Splinter's death is being foreshadowed because he was saying to the turtles that he won't be around for long and he's worried about there weaknesses and still need to mature.

I don't think they will kill Splinter again.

I think Super Shredder kills Karai during their all out war & in season 5 the turtles go on a mystic/spiritual journey to the underworld or somewhere like that, to bring Karai back to life. That's where they meet kavaxas(or however you spell it) in the process. Or maybe April is the one who dies...

*Powder* · 09-04-2016, 07:35 AM

Dare I say best episode of the season...? YES! Everything I want in a TMNT episode right here. Action, gut-busting laughs, high-octane violence, mafia goons, Rist & Feldman reunited, it goes on. Leonardo was drinking Ramune!

No over the top April/Karai powers, just pure awesome from the mutants we know & love, facing ideal foes. Mutanimals aside, it felt a bit like Mirage in tone. Wonderful array of voice talent.

It was sooooo good. I haven't been feeling the last few episodes too much, but my hype level is back at 100% now.

The Happy One · 09-04-2016, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Dare I say best episode of the season...? YES! Everything I want in a TMNT episode right here. Action, gut-busting laughs, high-octane violence, mafia goons, Rist & Feldman reunited, it goes on. Leonardo was drinking Ramune!

No over the top April/Karai powers, just pure awesome from the mutants we know & love, facing ideal foes. Mutanimals aside, it felt a bit like Mirage in tone. Wonderful array of voice talent.

It was sooooo good. I haven't been feeling the last few episodes too much, but my hype level is back at 100% now.

Wow that good?! Now these next two hours will be the worst wait...

Quick question though...did this involve Shredder at all...like did he hire these dudes or is it just like the City at War free for all thing?

*Powder* · 09-04-2016, 07:55 AM

That's just my opinion, mind you. I'd hate for someone to get their hopes up only to be disappointed as we may share different tastes. But yeah I have nothing to complain about whatsoever. Mad good.

It's all mafia stuff right now. No sign of Shredder or his affiliates in this episode.

The Happy One · 09-04-2016, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

That's just my opinion, mind you. I'd hate for someone to get their hopes up only to be disappointed as we may share different tastes. But yeah I have nothing to complain about whatsoever. Mad good.

It's all mafia stuff right now. No sign of Shredder or his affiliates in this episode.

Well you didn't get my hopes up for nothing! This episode was great!!

Lots of action true to this series right from the beginning and enough humor to keep it going, too!

The dialogue was great, especially when it came to Raph.

And the new characters were flawless!

*Vicky82* · 09-04-2016, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Happy One

Wow that good?! Now these next two hours will be the worst wait...

Quick question though...did this involve Shredder at all...like did he hire these dudes or is it just like the City at War free for all thing?

He wasn't in the episode and he didn't hire them. The mafia knew he had disappeared and they are trying to take over New York as well.

MarsicornYT · 09-04-2016, 08:12 AM

Spoiler:

And sorry just wanted to make sure for anyone who hasn't seen the episode yet.

*Vicky82* · 09-04-2016, 08:24 AM

The way they said it

"We don't talk about Pigeon Pete"

He probably just left the team but in real life they probably had problems with his voice actor or maybe there been problems between IDW and Nick and IDW didn't want Nick to use him anymore but i'm betting it's problems with his voice actor.

*ToTheNines* · 09-04-2016, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Dare I say best episode of the season...? YES! Everything I want in a TMNT episode right here. Action, gut-busting laughs, high-octane violence, mafia goons, Rist & Feldman reunited, it goes on. Leonardo was drinking Ramune!

No over the top April/Karai powers, just pure awesome from the mutants we know & love, facing ideal foes. Mutanimals aside, it felt a bit like Mirage in tone. Wonderful array of voice talent.

It was sooooo good. I haven't been feeling the last few episodes too much, but my hype level is back at 100% now.

I feel the same! The pacing finally felt natural, too. It had been so rushed and jumbled for so long.

Anyone catch the Dr. Feral reference? Hope he shows up, it'd be so cool to have a Palladium character in the show.

I feel like an old Naughty Dog employee works on the show now lol. The Hammer (funny Stallone pastiche) looked like he was rocking an N. Gin suit from Crash Bandicoot, and Vizioso totally reminded me of Krew in his little hover thingy.

*PApagreg* · 09-04-2016, 11:04 AM

huh this episode seems to be getting a lot of praise, time to be the turd in the punch bowl I guess

Pros: Good fight scenes, Inclusion of human enemies, and an interesting plot

Cons: Why do we need another episode of "Raph being angry and leaving the team" I agree with Donnie get a new song and dance, Why does this episode have lesson why could't it be "The mob is making anti mutagen weapons so we are going to sabotage their whole operation" with no lesson at the end, it feels as if this show can't have an episode without some lesson. Also why is Mondo Gecko here, the others would be better off making a wallet out of him or eating him. Why did Leo decide to confront the Don face to face instead of getting him when he doesn't have his guards on him not really ninja like, seriously even Spiderman would know getting the boss alone would be a good idea. Also why does every scene we have with the Don hes stuffing his face, okay we get it he's fat its not really funny or interesting.

2/5 for this episode

*NinjaMan* · 09-04-2016, 11:10 AM

Really like how the mutanimals are like extended family members to the turtles. Hope they show up for an all out battle against the foot. Also makes me wonder if splinter and shredder will both die at the end of this season.

View Poll Results: Mutant Gangland
Is Splinter's death being foreshadowed?	16	26.67%
"We don't talk about Pigeon Pete" So did he die or migrated south for the Winter?	26	43.33%
How many more times do they need to keep hurting Donnie?	7	11.67%
Hope Mondo Gecko got to the toilet in time?	11	18.33%
Voters: 60. You may not vote on this poll

09-04-2016, 04:25 AM	#1
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,805	Awesome episode, it was intense. It did feel more of a filler than last weeks episode though. It looks like Pidgeon Pete won't be returning, I wonder if there's been a problem with his voice actor or IDW told Nick not to use him anymore. Last week a had a theory (I posted it on Tumblr, not here) that Splinter may be killed off soon because he seemed to help with the turtles fear and weaknesses. In Broken Foot he had to talk to Leo about the bad things about going solo and keeping it a secret. Last week he was helping Raph's fear. In this episode it looks like Splinter's death is being foreshadowed because he was saying to the turtles that he won't be around for long and he's worried about there weaknesses and still need to mature. __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

09-04-2016, 08:12 AM	#10
MarsicornYT Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Australia Posts: 178	Spoiler: I wonder if Pigeon Pete actually died or just left the team. The mutanimals seemed pretty sad, but I hope we get a full explanation down the track. And sorry just wanted to make sure for anyone who hasn't seen the episode yet. Last edited by MarsicornYT; 09-04-2016 at 08:25 AM.

09-04-2016, 08:24 AM	#11
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,805	The way they said it "We don't talk about Pigeon Pete" He probably just left the team but in real life they probably had problems with his voice actor or maybe there been problems between IDW and Nick and IDW didn't want Nick to use him anymore but i'm betting it's problems with his voice actor. __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

09-04-2016, 11:04 AM	#13
PApagreg Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,828	huh this episode seems to be getting a lot of praise, time to be the turd in the punch bowl I guess Pros: Good fight scenes, Inclusion of human enemies, and an interesting plot Cons: Why do we need another episode of "Raph being angry and leaving the team" I agree with Donnie get a new song and dance, Why does this episode have lesson why could't it be "The mob is making anti mutagen weapons so we are going to sabotage their whole operation" with no lesson at the end, it feels as if this show can't have an episode without some lesson. Also why is Mondo Gecko here, the others would be better off making a wallet out of him or eating him. Why did Leo decide to confront the Don face to face instead of getting him when he doesn't have his guards on him not really ninja like, seriously even Spiderman would know getting the boss alone would be a good idea. Also why does every scene we have with the Don hes stuffing his face, okay we get it he's fat its not really funny or interesting. 2/5 for this episode __________________

09-04-2016, 04:58 AM	#2
MarsicornYT Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Australia Posts: 178	Yeah, I thought that was an awesome episode. It was kind of a filler, but it still linked back to the City at War plot because they were trying to take over because Shredders 'gone.' Loved Leatherhead's booyakasha at the end. And seeing how this second half of the season is going so far (going really good), if they do kill off Splinter it's going to be even sadder than the last time.

09-04-2016, 05:23 AM	#3
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,366	I've been singing "Mutant Gangland" to the tune of Baba O'Riley by The Who all weekend lol. Psyched for 11.

09-04-2016, 07:35 AM	#5
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	Dare I say best episode of the season...? YES! Everything I want in a TMNT episode right here. Action, gut-busting laughs, high-octane violence, mafia goons, Rist & Feldman reunited, it goes on. Leonardo was drinking Ramune! No over the top April/Karai powers, just pure awesome from the mutants we know & love, facing ideal foes. Mutanimals aside, it felt a bit like Mirage in tone. Wonderful array of voice talent. It was sooooo good. I haven't been feeling the last few episodes too much, but my hype level is back at 100% now.

09-04-2016, 07:55 AM	#7
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	That's just my opinion, mind you. I'd hate for someone to get their hopes up only to be disappointed as we may share different tastes. But yeah I have nothing to complain about whatsoever. Mad good. It's all mafia stuff right now. No sign of Shredder or his affiliates in this episode.

09-04-2016, 11:10 AM	#14
NinjaMan Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,579	Really like how the mutanimals are like extended family members to the turtles. Hope they show up for an all out battle against the foot. Also makes me wonder if splinter and shredder will both die at the end of this season.