Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 19: Bat in the Belfry - Page 4

*victory_angel* · 09-11-2016, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Happy One

Even with its flaws, this episode had me laughing pretty good

It was meant to be taken lightly- all while moving a plotline ahead. I think they executed that pretty well.

If anything bugged me...it was the, once again, overused 'Mikey being undermined/his seventh sense being undermined trope'. I don't care that he has that seventh sense, but his brothers excuse it so many times I would think that they'd get the lesson now.

It feels a tad worn out. Especially when Raph says "we should listen to Mikey more often!" like they haven't said that a million times.

Other than that- pretty solid 7/10.

Mikey does have a wild imagination in addition to his "Ninja Senses" so it's easy for the other turtles to brush off Mikey's observations as him spewing nonsense only for them to realizes he was right.

*CyberCubed* · 09-11-2016, 01:37 PM

Great episode, it was part a typical Michaelangelo superhero team-up episode and also a nice Wingnut/Screwloose episode. Loved the 60's Batman parody scenes and also liked how they were evil at the end. Also great action scenes at the bell tower, I really loved how it was done.

They also kept their alien origins in the comic book story at least, with them saying what planets they were from. April slowly turning evil or whatever they plan to do with her was nice too.

matteso586 · 09-11-2016, 01:42 PM

I thought it's going to be Kevin Conroy as Wingnut.

Can't believe nobody brought up the Batman Beyond reference with the costume casings.

The Happy One · 09-11-2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel

Mikey does have a wild imagination in addition to his "Ninja Senses" so it's easy for the other turtles to brush off Mikey's observations as him spewing nonsense only for them to realizes he was right.

Well yeah that's true. I think Vicky brought up a similar point.

It was pretty far out...even for Mikes. Still...it would be nice to see the kid taken more seriously as the show goes on. It's used as a plot device often- like Raph's fear of bugs. It might just be me..

*Xav* · 09-11-2016, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant

However, there was way too much 60's Batman material that it felt like I was watching a rejected episode or comic of Batman himself. I do like 60's Batman for what it was, but it got grating. The giant colorful letters when fighting? Check. "Holy X, Batman/Wingnut!"? Check. Teaching kids good morals? Check. God, all that was needed was a "Same Nutty Time, Same Nutty Channel!" aspect.

I'm kinda surprised they didn't get Adam West to voice Wingnut.

Nasubionna · 09-11-2016, 02:50 PM

OMG you guys, that episode was frickin’ fantastic! I was smiling the whole time, which I haven’t done at a TMNT episode in a long time, and I actually laughed out loud when Mikey bopped the giant eyeball right in the pupil and then got laser-blasted halfway across the block, LOLOLOL!!!! Loved the Mikey and Casey team up, and this is the first time Casey hasn’t annoyed me in quite awhile. Dark April is pretty rough, watching her be mean to Donnie breaks my heart. It has potential to be a great arc, but I hope they do it well and that there is a big pay-off for all the pain it’s going to cause.

I grew up watching the Adam West/Burt Ward Batman show. My sister and I would watch the re-runs every weekend back in the 80′s and I still love the show to this day. It’s iconic, but somehow it never occurred to me that they would parody it in this show, but I’m SO glad they did. The only possible thing that could have made it better would be to have Adam & Burt do the voices, but it is entirely likely that they sound too old now. Adam West is practically 90, after all! So yeah, I’m perfectly happy with the voices they used, and the whole thing just made me really happy: the sound effects, music, fight sequences… good times! XD

And on top of the super fun references, just a lot of good turtle-family-action: Leo and Raph arguing about comics (”that food has real depth and emotion, man!”), Mikey with Ice Cream Kitty, and I thought Donnie’s voice acting was really on-point this episode, with his reactions to April’s strange and upsetting behavior. I really enjoy the different ways of getting these guest characters into existence and revisiting magic (which we’ve seen in this universe before). I like the concept of the alien crystal bringing the characters to life, it’s fun to mix it up from just aliens and mutants.

In conclusion: GOOD STUFF, Nick, keep it up!!

*CyberCubed* · 09-11-2016, 02:58 PM

Season 4 is shaping up to be one of the best seasons of the series. As far as I remember there were only 2 episodes this entire season I didn't care for.

*Vicky82* · 09-11-2016, 03:04 PM

Going back to the Mikey doesn't get serious episodes, he cried at the end of this episode and that's pretty rare for a Mikey centric episode.

It was pretty heartbreaking hearing him cry though, it was a full on cry not just a little whimper.

*oldmanwinters* · 09-11-2016, 03:16 PM

I don't know if it was supposed to be funny, but when April was madly manning the canons on the Turtle Blimp, it made me think of Captain Ahab hunting Moby Dick.

*GoldMutant* · 09-11-2016, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel

Mikey does have a wild imagination in addition to his "Ninja Senses" so it's easy for the other turtles to brush off Mikey's observations as him spewing nonsense only for them to realizes he was right.

Except that he was right before. Buried Secrets anyone? Mikey doubted because of his suspicions, then proven right by the end. You'd think someone (Leo, maybe Don) could've put it together and realize it? No, let's undermine the guy who was right before because he's hopped on a pizza too many.

Just served as another way to drive Mikey wanting to prove his point; if they listened, I guarantee this episode's plot would be resolved in the time frame of a 15 minute show, or even less.

AlZarkovski · 09-11-2016, 03:22 PM

Drawn characters become alive through the crystal... Sounds familiar, does not it?

*Vicky82* · 09-11-2016, 03:23 PM

I wonder if they should start getting Kirby involved in April's corruption. Maybe have him talk to Splinter that he's worried about her.

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Except that he was right before. Buried Secrets anyone? Mikey doubted because of his suspicions, then proven right by the end. You'd think someone (Leo, maybe Don) could've put it together and realize it? No, let's undermine the guy who was right before because he's hopped on a pizza too many.

Just served as another way to drive Mikey wanting to prove his point; if they listened, I guarantee this episode's plot would be resolved in the time frame of a 15 minute show, or even less.

Buried Secrets was a completely different scenario and it was more about Mikey's senses and yes they should have trusted him but it was difficult because they really thought it was April's Mum. but anyway Donnie must have started to believe him, because he did go back down to ship to check the Kraang's info.

*snake* · 09-11-2016, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

I wonder if they should start getting Kirby involved in April's corruption. Maybe have him talk to Splinter that he's worried about her.

I'd be suprised if he's ever mentioned again

AlZarkovski · 09-11-2016, 03:28 PM

Maybe Nick April drawn character too?

*Vicky82* · 09-11-2016, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AlZarkovski

Maybe Nick April drawn character too?

I hope not, The Mirage version was stupid.

*neatoman* · 09-11-2016, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlZarkovski

Maybe Nick April drawn character too?

I was suspecting that early on but it can't really be the case, unless Utrom genetics is about turning figments of imagination into flesh and blood.

AlZarkovski · 09-11-2016, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

I hope not, The Mirage version was stupid.

Yes, but this version explains why Crystal is only acted on April and Wingnut & Screwloose.

*GoldMutant* · 09-11-2016, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

Buried Secrets was a completely different scenario and it was more about Mikey's senses and yes they should have trusted him but it was difficult because they really thought it was April's Mum. but anyway Donnie must have started to believe him, because he did go back down to ship to check the Kraang's info.

And? Still doesn't change the fact that it happened before and he was right. No excuse for the group to dismiss Mikey's idea again.

*neatoman* · 09-11-2016, 04:28 PM

Remember how Mikey called Kirby-Bat Wingnut? Does this mean Mikey has just been taking his monster names from pop culture or is this just a continuity error? Probably continuity error...

*ranger_scout* · 09-11-2016, 04:54 PM

I thought that today's episode was loads of fun. I loved all of the references to the original Batman TV series. This half of the season really has helped the show return to its former glory. It's shame that we are going to have another hiatus.

View Poll Results: NanananaX It's wingnut, wingnut, wingnut!
Casey: Great Googlely Oogally!	2	4.35%
April needs therapy...or a straight jacket and padded room.	17	36.96%
Onward to...another hiatus	7	15.22%
Anyone catch the Grumpy Cat poster?	3	6.52%
Donnie apparently does sleep in his lab despite having his own room.	6	13.04%
Turflytle's in the house, Buzz Buzz! Holy rip off, Wingnut!	11	23.91%
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09-11-2016, 02:50 PM	#66
Nasubionna Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: western Washington state Posts: 175	OMG you guys, that episode was frickin’ fantastic! I was smiling the whole time, which I haven’t done at a TMNT episode in a long time, and I actually laughed out loud when Mikey bopped the giant eyeball right in the pupil and then got laser-blasted halfway across the block, LOLOLOL!!!! Loved the Mikey and Casey team up, and this is the first time Casey hasn’t annoyed me in quite awhile. Dark April is pretty rough, watching her be mean to Donnie breaks my heart. It has potential to be a great arc, but I hope they do it well and that there is a big pay-off for all the pain it’s going to cause. I grew up watching the Adam West/Burt Ward Batman show. My sister and I would watch the re-runs every weekend back in the 80′s and I still love the show to this day. It’s iconic, but somehow it never occurred to me that they would parody it in this show, but I’m SO glad they did. The only possible thing that could have made it better would be to have Adam & Burt do the voices, but it is entirely likely that they sound too old now. Adam West is practically 90, after all! So yeah, I’m perfectly happy with the voices they used, and the whole thing just made me really happy: the sound effects, music, fight sequences… good times! XD And on top of the super fun references, just a lot of good turtle-family-action: Leo and Raph arguing about comics (”that food has real depth and emotion, man!”), Mikey with Ice Cream Kitty, and I thought Donnie’s voice acting was really on-point this episode, with his reactions to April’s strange and upsetting behavior. I really enjoy the different ways of getting these guest characters into existence and revisiting magic (which we’ve seen in this universe before). I like the concept of the alien crystal bringing the characters to life, it’s fun to mix it up from just aliens and mutants. In conclusion: GOOD STUFF, Nick, keep it up!! __________________ http://nasubionna.deviantart.com

09-11-2016, 03:04 PM	#68
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,805	Going back to the Mikey doesn't get serious episodes, he cried at the end of this episode and that's pretty rare for a Mikey centric episode. It was pretty heartbreaking hearing him cry though, it was a full on cry not just a little whimper. __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

09-11-2016, 03:16 PM	#69
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,493	I don't know if it was supposed to be funny, but when April was madly manning the canons on the Turtle Blimp, it made me think of Captain Ahab hunting Moby Dick. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

09-11-2016, 01:37 PM	#62
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,860	Great episode, it was part a typical Michaelangelo superhero team-up episode and also a nice Wingnut/Screwloose episode. Loved the 60's Batman parody scenes and also liked how they were evil at the end. Also great action scenes at the bell tower, I really loved how it was done. They also kept their alien origins in the comic book story at least, with them saying what planets they were from. April slowly turning evil or whatever they plan to do with her was nice too.

09-11-2016, 01:42 PM	#63
matteso586 Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 712	I thought it's going to be Kevin Conroy as Wingnut. Can't believe nobody brought up the Batman Beyond reference with the costume casings.

09-11-2016, 02:58 PM	#67
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,860	Season 4 is shaping up to be one of the best seasons of the series. As far as I remember there were only 2 episodes this entire season I didn't care for.

09-11-2016, 03:22 PM	#71
AlZarkovski Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Russia Posts: 1,079	Drawn characters become alive through the crystal... Sounds familiar, does not it?

09-11-2016, 03:28 PM	#74
AlZarkovski Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Russia Posts: 1,079	Maybe Nick April drawn character too?

09-11-2016, 04:54 PM	#80
ranger_scout Foot Elite Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3,758	I thought that today's episode was loads of fun. I loved all of the references to the original *Batman* TV series. This half of the season really has helped the show return to its former glory. It's shame that we are going to have another hiatus.