Turtles wear no masks!

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Although what I'm curious about is if receiving these color designations had some hand in shaping their personally development over the years. If they did not receive these separate colors, would they be a lot more cookie cutter in personality today?

Doubtful it had a huge influence beyond enforcing the already existing traits. The Turtles where pretty well fleshed before the FW cartoon, and originally Donny was Orange and Mikey was Purple.

[Commenter 42]

Who wants to be first to point out the masks are a joke? Who wants to Crisler this discussion?

Anyone? Anyone at all?
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Man. Literally literal, ... literally.

There's a ton of fan art where they don't have the masks, some doing the whole different species thing instead. I don't love that idea, but I have seen it done well.

It's like Cylon said, Batman is stupid, taken literally. He should just be dark clothing man, vigilante. It's one of the big issues I have with Nolan's films - that he becomes tactical man, military
guy. We lose the "he's so good, so trained, so amazing, he can fight in a leotard" thinking - instead it's a guy who's desperate to get his tech to allow him to turn his head.

As Kappa points out, it's the red against the green, artistically, that works so well.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Doubtful it had a huge influence beyond enforcing the already existing traits. The Turtles where pretty well fleshed before the FW cartoon, and originally Donny was Orange and Mikey was Purple.

Y'know, I was so sure I remembered a comic where one of the Turtles had a pink bandana, and it turns out I was kind of right -- the original Archie TMNT Adventures comic, or at least one that came with an audio tape I had as a kid. Donnie has a very dark purple, and Raph seems to have a magenta kind of colour while Mikey's is pretty red to red-orange:



The colours seem like a natural fit now that they've been established for so long, but they were apparently pretty arbitrary at that point in time.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I'd love for incarnations to give us more no-mask time, but doing away with the masks all together just isn't going to happen.

This. It won't, & it shouldn't.

[wpugh2424]

In some of the ot episodes it shows them wo masks for short periods of time
They just look odd to me wo their trademarks so to speak.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

All right, the other thread on the red vs. colored mask debate got me to thinking about several points about this debate, and here some of the conclusions I've come to;

-The red masks are B.S., no matter what any of you say. Japanese clans of any kind do not have clan colors of any kind, the idea they wear the same color to show that are a family is made up and inaccurate. I don't care if they are in the source material, it's still an idiotic concept.

-Colored masks are equally as silly, why would turtles wear masks to begin with? They sure as heck aren't hiding their identities, those long bandannas could snag on anything during stealth missions, or during a fight.

So you know what? Let's have a version where we get rid of this stupid debate altogether. Have them go without masks. Either have their faces have different colored making adorn their eyes in the shape of masks, or have the area around each their eyes tattooed/painted to symbolically represent the four seasons, which may relate to each of the turtles uniquely the turtles for a spiritual reason. (Yes, Japanese clans did wear/use colors to represent the season in their wardrobe). I know Sophie Campbell's fan comic did something like this, but I'd love to see it in something official.

So, what would the rest of you think of mask-less TMNT?

With all do respect, you're making a huge deal out of this. All I was asking is if there will be at least one other incarnation where the turtles will wear red masks. While I prefer it that way, I have no issue with them wearing different colored masks. Also, a lot of design choices for comic book characters have silly designs, even Batman. No matter how you look at it, it's a guy who dresses up in a Bat getup to invoke fear into his foes. I'm not asking for preference or which is better. I'm just asking if it will happen outside Mirage and if you'd like to see them wear red masks in at least one other incarnation.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by wpugh2424

In some of the ot episodes it shows them wo masks for short periods of time
They just look odd to me wo their trademarks so to speak.

How I figure it, it's basically the same as seeing someone without their glasses if you're used to always seeing them wearing them. Just looks odd and a little naked. lol

[Editor's Note Comics]

Masks are nessisary, in comic form at least. Character's have like masks, capes, or long hair to portray movement on the page. It helps to inform the reader.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

With all do respect, you're making a huge deal out of this. All I was asking is if there will be at least one other incarnation where the turtles will wear red masks. While I prefer it that way, I have no issue with them wearing different colored masks. Also, a lot of design choices for comic book characters have silly designs, even Batman. No matter how you look at it, it's a guy who dresses up in a Bat getup to invoke fear into his foes. I'm not asking for preference or which is better. I'm just asking if it will happen outside Mirage and if you'd like to see them wear red masks in at least one other incarnation.

Check the recent 1/4 Neca thread...lots of red mask love going on

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Check the recent 1/4 Neca thread...lots of red mask love going on

Apparently the Eastman-designed Turtle figures, too. Eastman is selling those for $1000 a pop on his FB. Actually really cool. Wouldn't mind seeing those on the screen. There's some accessories but not to a crazy level.

[Commenter 42]

Yeah, not for me, but congrats on the life choices to anyone who has a G to drop on two action figures.

That's a weekend in Vegas, or a flight to Maui.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

No Masks? Lets take it a step further and make them human too, thats more realistic and in line with how real ninjas are, turtles are slow and un-ninja like and humans are the only species to have ever learned any martial arts as we know them.

[DevilSpooky]

Just ditch the masks and go full on bodysuit

[Utrommaniac]

Thank you for reminding me that Bebop and Rocksteady went into a grocery store in their birthday suits

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Gah! Never saw them like that before and now I can't UN-see it!!

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Indigo, at least you addressed the issue directly.

Guys, I really don't have a huge beef with the masks (though I would love to see at least one version without them), my point is I wish people would stop using Japanese culture to justify the red masks and other mirage TMNT elements, when the turtles have very little to do with actual Japanese culture. I applaud the IDW team and Nick show team for being the first TMNT writers to actually go and research things intensively, instead of just watching kung-fu movies, borrowing from frank Miller, and making things up.

My ONLY justification for red masks is their origin... Mirage Turtles wore red. That's enough for me.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by DevilSpooky

Just ditch the masks and go full on bodysuit

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20160330132812

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Okay, I would totally pay to see a scene of a PD!Raph explaining to his brothers why he's wearing a skin-tight black onsie.

Can that happen?
Who do we talk to to make that happen?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

How does a turtle even get into one?not surethose things are even made to fit a shell in.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

How does a turtle even get into one?not surethose things are even made to fit a shell in.

That's part of the beauty of the scene, finding out just how this works.
Like, are there zippers?
Is it like a more breathable Space Bag?

Who knows?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

How does a turtle even get into one?not surethose things are even made to fit a shell in.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

That's part of the beauty of the scene, finding out just how this works.
Like, are there zippers?
Is it like a more breathable Space Bag?

Who knows?

I recall issues where Raphael was only wearing the bottom half of it so it seems to have 2 pieces that you just throw on. Not sure how the eyes would be that snug, though, though it's not inconceivable it could be made of some Stump Asteroid alien material.