Casey Jones the worst character?

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

There is no plot amnesia though.

If you took a shot for every episode that Raph has to overcome his bug phobia and his anger I guarantee you need an UBER to get from your living room to your bed

[CyberCubed]

How on earth is that plot amnesia? Raphael is always going to have a temper. Having a phobia doesn't go away easily in real life either.

That's like saying Mikey should stop acting goofy or Leonardo should stop placing the burden on himself to be a leader.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

It's kind of unfair if we say something like this as fact when the show is still in production.

It's already too late. They go from 'we won't rest until we rescue April's father' to 'yeah.... we'll get around to it... like whenever'. That whole case was already resolved, they did rescue him... and honestly the only reason they rescued him was because Raph poked fun at Donnie... somehow that gave him the determination to go out and rescue him. So.. how long would Kirby been rotting in his cell if Raph hadn't made fun of Donnie that day? They can't go back now and add extra retcon flashbacks to explain their forgetting what they just talked about.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It's already too late. They go from 'we won't rest until we rescue April's father' to 'yeah.... we'll get around to it... like whenever'. That whole case was already resolved, they did rescue him... and honestly the only reason they rescued him was because Raph poked fun at Donnie... somehow that gave him the determination to go out and rescue him. So.. how long would Kirby been rotting in his cell if Raph hadn't made fun of Donnie that day? They can't go back now and add extra retcon flashbacks to explain their forgetting what they just talked about.

What on earth? April's father was lost and they had no idea where to find him. They eventually did.

This is ridiculous. When Batman and Spiderman shows air, nobody says, "Hey, what happened to Joker? Why isn't Batman tracking him down before he kills someone?" Nobody is saying, "Hey, why isn't Spiderman looking for Doctor Octopus...he's still at large?"

Its called recurring villains and plotlines. How the hell is what TMNT's doing any different than any other superhero show?

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

What on earth? April's father was lost and they had no idea where to find him. They eventually did.

This is ridiculous. When Batman and Spiderman shows air, nobody says, "Hey, what happened to Joker? Why isn't Batman tracking him down before he kills someone?" Nobody is saying, "Hey, why isn't Spiderman looking for Doctor Octopus...he's still at large?"

Its called recurring villains and plotlines. How the hell is what TMNT's doing any different than any other superhero show?

I think it's because they didn't show the Turtles actively looking for April's father or news about him on a consistent basis. Yeah it could be assumed that Donnie was helping April look for Kirby off screen, but seeing the Turtles hanging about the lair without a care in the world made Donnie's statement of "We won't rest until he's found" look hypocritical.

It's pretty much "We are only going to care about the Kraang. But if we find out something about where your dad is, we'll let you know."

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

What on earth? April's father was lost and they had no idea where to find him. They eventually did.

This is ridiculous. When Batman and Spiderman shows air, nobody says, "Hey, what happened to Joker? Why isn't Batman tracking him down before he kills someone?" Nobody is saying, "Hey, why isn't Spiderman looking for Doctor Octopus...he's still at large?"

Its called recurring villains and plotlines. How the hell is what TMNT's doing any different than any other superhero show?

While it's a bit different in the comics, In cartoons most of the time the episode ends with the bad guy going you jail so batman or spiderman have no reason to be looking for them, they already took care of them.

Are you forgetting all the complaining during season 1? How April forgot all about her dad until the episode suddenly called for it? How the people behind the show were mixed between the show having an ongoing story to just being episodic even though what they were going for called for story arcs.

Fact is, had Raph not call Donnie 'sadorable' April's dad would have still been locked up until the plot remembered him again.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

While it's a bit different in the comics, In cartoons most of the time the episode ends with the bad guy going you jail so batman or spiderman have no reason to be looking for them, they already took care of them.

Are you forgetting all the complaining during season 1? How April forgot all about her dad until the episode suddenly called for it? How the people behind the show were mixed between the show having an ongoing story to just being episodic even though what they were going for called for story arcs.

Fact is, had Raph not call Donnie 'sadorable' April's dad would have still been locked up until the plot remembered him again.

Actually it was that secret message that sent Donnie after Aprils father. Raph had teased Donnie for having a crush on April and still beleaving April would see him beyond just a really good friend. Which is why he goes on his own to prove himself worthy of having a chance with April. When Donnie realizes what the secret message was he starts to call for his brothers to inform them but then remembers what Raph had said. If Raph hadn't called Donnie sadorable they would have all gone to find Aprils father

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

Actually it was that secret message that sent Donnie after Aprils father. Raph had teased Donnie for having a crush on April and still beleaving April would see him beyond just a really good friend. Which is why he goes on his own to prove himself worthy of having a chance with April. When Donnie realizes what the secret message was he starts to call for his brothers to inform them but then remembers what Raph had said. If Raph hadn't called Donnie sadorable they would have all gone to find Aprils father

Either way it was because the plot of that episode suddenly called for it. If not they would have just been throwing down with the Foot or random mutants without a care in the world about April's father.

Same with mindless snake karai. While they did handle this better than April's father, there were still Eps that forgot about looking for her. And the whole 'this season will be about the turtles looking for the lost Mutagen bottles' waa forgotten about after the second episode or so.

Then the Northampton Eps seem to completely forget about new York and splinter until the plot called for it. One ep had mikey threaten to run away back to new York forgetting that it would be a kraang hell hole at the time.

[CyberCubed]

You people just don't know what you want. Every story plot was followed up on, the Turtles did what they could to find mutagen bottles, Kirby, Karai, etc.

[ToTheNines]

Where's Newtralizer? Where's April's mom?

[snake]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Where's Newtralizer? Where's April's mom?

April's mom will probably be followed up since that was something that they actually set up. I mean, no biggie if they don't because the Kraang stuff bored me to tears.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You people just don't know what you want.

No, you just take whatever show you like as gospel and run around covering your ears yelling out 'la la la I can't hear you!' whenever someone brings up anything negative with it.

I swear it doesn't matter if it's the 80's, 2K3 or this one, if anyone says anything bad about the show or say they're gonna quit watching it because they're burned out or blah blah, you always jump in to either defend the show or find some kind of fault with the person because it can't possibly be the show's fault.

Give it a rest. This show defined plot amnesia since season 1 and it's been mentioned several times before. Please don't pretend it's never been touched upon until now.

[ToTheNines]

Mirage has Andrew, Fred Wolf has Zarius, the original movie had that Masterpiece guy, I'm sure the 4kids show had some zealot who doesn't post here any longer, and the Bay movies have Sam (Cylons, you can be the IDW totem, I guess).

They all form to make one ugly Cybercubed fanboy-mech.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

No, you just take whatever show you like as gospel and run around covering your ears yelling out 'la la la I can't hear you!' whenever someone brings up anything negative with it.

Give it a rest. This show defined plot amnesia since season 1 and it's been mentioned several times before. Please don't pretend it's never been touched upon until now.

That has nothing to do with anything. The Nick show isn't even my favorite TMNT cartoon anyway.

I'm just saying it doesn't have plot amnesia. It has recurring characters and plotlines.

[snake]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Mirage has Andrew, Fred Wolf has Zarius, the original movie had that Masterpiece guy, I'm sure the 4kids show had some zealot who doesn't post here any longer, and the Bay movies have Sam (Cylons, you can be the IDW totem, I guess).

They all form to make one ugly Cybercubed fanboy-mech.

Powder is Next Mutation.


No hard feelings, Powder

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Mirage has Andrew, Fred Wolf has Zarius, the original movie had that Masterpiece guy, I'm sure the 4kids show had some zealot who doesn't post here any longer, and the Bay movies have Sam (Cylons, you can be the IDW totem, I guess).

They all form to make one ugly Cybercubed fanboy-mech.

Guess that makes me Archie Comics, though I don't go on obsessively about it like those guys do.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Mirage has Andrew, Fred Wolf has Zarius, the original movie had that Masterpiece guy, I'm sure the 4kids show had some zealot who doesn't post here any longer, and the Bay movies have Sam (Cylons, you can be the IDW totem, I guess).

They all form to make one ugly Cybercubed fanboy-mech.

I will absolutely be the IDW Zealot. Abso-fvcking-lutely.

I'll do double duty for 4Kids, too, if I can be the "First Four Seasons of 4Kids TMNT Exclusively" Zealot.

[CyberCubed]

No! No! It doesn't work that way.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

No! No! It doesn't work that way.

I can hear the sizzle and pop over your brain overheating all the way from Texas.

If you spell burning toast, you're having a stroke.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by snake

Powder is Next Mutation.


No hard feelings, Powder

Hmm, I guess I could take that.