Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 21: Darkest Plight - Page 5

Rhio2k · 11-13-2016, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

Where did you get idea that Alopex was in this episode

There was no indication that she appears in this episode.

Was kinda hoping for an appearance at least CLOSE to my birthday. Halfway through now...it IS good. Just started watching this series again. I hate Ice Cream Kitty's condition...so disturbing. And they TOTALLY did the Mirage plot with the Rat King...although I wish Splinter had accepted his teaching more respectfully afterwards like in the comic rather than scornfully. I just hope they don't pull the crap they did with their OTHER cgi action/martial arts shows: get you hyped for a particular upcoming episode...then start screwing around with airdates, and showing reruns until you stop watching, then air like 5 new eps in one week.

*Ninjinister* · 11-13-2016, 06:51 PM

The falling fight between Saki and Yoshi reminded me of Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe.

Rhio2k · 11-13-2016, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

The falling fight between Saki and Yoshi reminded me of Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe.

Nobody should have to be reminded of that piece of crap.

*Ninjinister* · 11-13-2016, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhio2k

Nobody should have to be reminded of that piece of crap.

Crap, it wasn't. Average at best, but better than the three MK games that proceeded it.

Why you bein' so aggro?

*PApagreg* · 11-13-2016, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Crap, it wasn't. Average at best, but better than the three MK games that proceeded it.

Why you bein' so aggro?

Don't you mean 2

*ToTheNines* · 11-13-2016, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Crap, it wasn't. Average at best, but better than the three MK games that proceeded it.

Why you bein' so aggro?

It was awesome when it came out. Just became hard to play when the 2011 game dropped.

Back on topic, it was definitely Green voicing Leo in the flashback. Wish it was just recycled Biggs dialogue, woulda been so sweet to my ears. It wasn't a true flashback though, as it was in Splinter's head, so it makes sense that he'd hear his current voice.

Still wondering when Catrambone is gonna show up and for what reason...

redsai4lex · 11-13-2016, 07:48 PM

I just wanna say... I've been visiting The Technodrome on and off for over 13 years now, and even though I never post that much, this discussion forum is the #1 source of insight on anything TMNT related... I always come back here to find out what the newest episode will be.

*drgon78* · 11-13-2016, 07:49 PM

Great episode, this would be a great arch to end the Shredder storyline.

*victory_angel* · 11-13-2016, 08:33 PM

I thought it was rather creative to have Mikey say they have salmonella, because in rality Turtles do spread Salmonella.

*Allio* · 11-13-2016, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by matteso586

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now the question will be, will Rat King come back again as a guide to Splinter like his mirage self.

*CyberCubed* · 11-13-2016, 08:55 PM

Rat King is officially dead. Although given this universe, I suppose it is possible he could come back as a ghost or something.

*MikeandRaph87* · 11-13-2016, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Rat King is officially dead. Although given this universe, I suppose it is possible he could come back as a ghost or something.

That was a big letdown for me. One of the major reasons I could not get into the Mirage comic was Shredder AND Rat King were dead for good with so few appearances. I was sure Rat King would finally return but not suffer the Murage version's fate. Rat King is too big a villain to just get two alive appearances. I fear Oroku Saki will join him soon.

*CyberCubed* · 11-13-2016, 09:59 PM

We were probably not going to see Rat King anymore after this anyway, so I'm glad he received closure.

*NinjaMan* · 11-13-2016, 10:07 PM

Did I see the turtles dressed in black in the new intro?

*Wildcat* · 11-13-2016, 11:16 PM

Well I was pretty disappointed with this part. Especially since the last episode was just amazing.

There's no way, given the context of this show, Splinter could have survived that fall which Don said was at least 1,000 feet. It was the equivalent of Wil E Coyote surviving a fall.

I could have bought that he lassoed a beam with his belt on the way down to soften the fall.

Disappointed Rat King is officially dead I guess and April's telekinesis is just dumb. I generally do not like telekinetic powers because it's just too easy of a thing imo.

*CyberCubed* · 11-13-2016, 11:38 PM

April's powers are driving her insane, so I wouldn't say its anything easy for her.

*Wildcat* · 11-14-2016, 12:00 AM

I mean too easy of a solution. Having any character with theses powers and then using them at the most opportune times.

*CyberCubed* · 11-14-2016, 12:16 AM

Its not like she's saving the day. Tiger Claw beat her down and nearly killed her, and even though she threw trucks at Shredder she wasn't the one who stopped him.

MCLeo28 · 11-14-2016, 12:25 AM

This episode was absolutely phenomenal and certainly was of higher quality than the previous episode.

This episode was evidently more action-oriented and had a plethora of events occurring simultaneously ranging from Raph + Casey vs. Bebop and Rocksteady, Donnie and Michelangelo scavenging the depths of the chasm in search of Splinter, Splinter nearly surrendering to his own hallucinations which challenged his conviction, and Shredder + Tiger Claw vs. Karai, Leonardo, and April. Even with all of this commotion, the writers succeeded in giving each character a purpose other than Leo who was shafted in favor of Karai (understandable) and April (unforgivable).

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy April's character and was compelled by her interesting backstory, but it was infuriating witnessing April playing a more pivotal role than Leonardo. It seemed as if the writers neglected Leo's bitter fued between Shredder that (if I recall correctly) spanned over the course of a few episodes at least over April whose shared minimal interaction with Shredder at best. I fervently hoped that Leo would've played a pivotal role considering the mutual and fierce rivalry they had, but that was unfortunately not the case and it certainly put a damper on an otherwise, climactic battle.

Other than that, the episode was superb as the writers succeed in exploring the personalities of all of the characters this time around, the return of the Rat King was genuinely appreciated and the challenges he presented towards Splinter was properly executed, and the choices that Karai made by casting away Shredder's intense, but heartfelt emotions gave me shivers down my spine and made me even more intrigued and thrilled for the next episode in the series.

Solid episode, probably one of the best in the series.

*MrTMNT2012* · 11-14-2016, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaronardo

Side-note, GOD it was weird hearing Seth Green saying one of Jason Biggs's first lines in the show in that flashback. It makes it even more obvious just how weird it is having Seth Green portray the character the way he does.

I genuinely miss Jason Biggs. Honestly think he was the best voice actor on the show; captured EVERYTHING about Leonardo...

View Poll Results: A teacher maybe, but you were never my master!
Ding dong the Rat Kings dead!	14	25.93%
Shredder: Karai, I never wanted to hurt you. Everyone else: All you done is hurt her!	7	12.96%
Shredder is becoming too crazy, even for Tigerclaw!	6	11.11%
Splinter: Never before have I been so glad to see such smiling faces.	15	27.78%
April's nose bleeding as she psychicly throws a tanker truck at Shredder.	12	22.22%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

11-13-2016, 06:51 PM	#82
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	The falling fight between Saki and Yoshi reminded me of Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe. __________________

11-13-2016, 07:48 PM	#87
redsai4lex Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2003 Location: by the TMNT's side Posts: 546	I just wanna say... I've been visiting The Technodrome on and off for over 13 years now, and even though I never post that much, this discussion forum is the #1 source of insight on anything TMNT related... I always come back here to find out what the newest episode will be. __________________

11-13-2016, 08:33 PM	#89
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	I thought it was rather creative to have Mikey say they have salmonella, because in rality Turtles do spread Salmonella. __________________

11-13-2016, 11:16 PM	#95
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,517	Well I was pretty disappointed with this part. Especially since the last episode was just amazing. There's no way, given the context of this show, Splinter could have survived that fall which Don said was at least 1,000 feet. It was the equivalent of Wil E Coyote surviving a fall. I could have bought that he lassoed a beam with his belt on the way down to soften the fall. Disappointed Rat King is officially dead I guess and April's telekinesis is just dumb. I generally do not like telekinetic powers because it's just too easy of a thing imo. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

11-13-2016, 07:49 PM	#88
drgon78 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 2,409	Great episode, this would be a great arch to end the Shredder storyline.

11-13-2016, 08:55 PM	#91
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,899	Rat King is officially dead. Although given this universe, I suppose it is possible he could come back as a ghost or something.

11-13-2016, 09:59 PM	#93
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,899	We were probably not going to see Rat King anymore after this anyway, so I'm glad he received closure.

11-13-2016, 10:07 PM	#94
NinjaMan Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,579	Did I see the turtles dressed in black in the new intro?

11-13-2016, 11:38 PM	#96
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,899	April's powers are driving her insane, so I wouldn't say its anything easy for her.

11-14-2016, 12:00 AM	#97
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,517	I mean too easy of a solution. Having any character with theses powers and then using them at the most opportune times. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

11-14-2016, 12:16 AM	#98
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,899	Its not like she's saving the day. Tiger Claw beat her down and nearly killed her, and even though she threw trucks at Shredder she wasn't the one who stopped him.

11-14-2016, 12:25 AM	#99
MCLeo28 Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 313	This episode was absolutely phenomenal and certainly was of higher quality than the previous episode. This episode was evidently more action-oriented and had a plethora of events occurring simultaneously ranging from Raph + Casey vs. Bebop and Rocksteady, Donnie and Michelangelo scavenging the depths of the chasm in search of Splinter, Splinter nearly surrendering to his own hallucinations which challenged his conviction, and Shredder + Tiger Claw vs. Karai, Leonardo, and April. Even with all of this commotion, the writers succeeded in giving each character a purpose other than Leo who was shafted in favor of Karai (understandable) and April (unforgivable). Don't get me wrong, I enjoy April's character and was compelled by her interesting backstory, but it was infuriating witnessing April playing a more pivotal role than Leonardo. It seemed as if the writers neglected Leo's bitter fued between Shredder that (if I recall correctly) spanned over the course of a few episodes at least over April whose shared minimal interaction with Shredder at best. I fervently hoped that Leo would've played a pivotal role considering the mutual and fierce rivalry they had, but that was unfortunately not the case and it certainly put a damper on an otherwise, climactic battle. Other than that, the episode was superb as the writers succeed in exploring the personalities of all of the characters this time around, the return of the Rat King was genuinely appreciated and the challenges he presented towards Splinter was properly executed, and the choices that Karai made by casting away Shredder's intense, but heartfelt emotions gave me shivers down my spine and made me even more intrigued and thrilled for the next episode in the series. Solid episode, probably one of the best in the series. Last edited by MCLeo28; 11-14-2016 at 12:31 AM.