Kevin Feige Says A Partnership With Fox For X-MEN Or FANTASTIC 4 Is Impossible

*The Deadman* · 11-22-2016, 11:23 AM

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/aveng...-x-men-a146994

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 didn't live up to Sony's expectations, but it was far from a flop, and the studio could have very easily pushed forward with both its planned sequels to that movie and the spinoffs revolving around the Sinister Six, Venom, and, er, Aunt May. Instead though, they made a historic deal with Marvel Studios to bring the wall-crawler into the MCU in Captain America: Civil War.

So, with X-Men: Apocalypse vastly underperforming and Fantastic Four proving to be a huge flop, surely Marvel could make a deal with Fox to bring those characters into this world too, right? Not a chance.

"It’s an impossibility at this juncture," Kevin Feige told Variety when they asked him exactly that. "We certainly have enough films to keep us busy for a number of lifetimes." So, it really doesn't sound as if the relationship between the two studios has got any better, and Feige sadly doesn't actually sound remotely interesting in bringing any of those characters into Marvel's Phase 4 or beyond for now.

As for another rival studio in the form of Warner Bros. and its DC Films Universe, it doesn't sound like he's sweating the competition right now. "What other people are adapting from the comics medium, I watch with as much interest as I do any other movies. Because I’m a fan, and I want to see what other people are doing in the world. I’ve always believed in expanding the definition of what a Marvel Studios movie could be. We try to keep audiences coming back in greater numbers by doing the unexpected and not simply following a pattern or a mold or a formula."

*GoldMutant* · 11-22-2016, 11:48 AM

Looks like Fox will suck them dry... with whatever is actually left at this point.

*NinjaPug* · 11-22-2016, 12:08 PM

I think it would be cool to have these characters (mainly the F4 and its villains) pop up in the MCU but that's not why I want Marvel & Fox to work together.

I just want someone else producing these movies outside of the current team at Fox - primarily Simon Kinberg. He sucks writing these characters but Fox keeps letting him work on these movies. It sounds like they've at least given Bryan Singer the boot.

A Dr Strange movie should never out gross an X-Men movie at the box office but that's already happened this year and Strange has only been out for less than a month.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 11-22-2016, 12:21 PM

But then what did Marvel get from Fox in return for letting them make their boring 'Legion' TV series? I mean, they wouldn't have just given them permission for free, right?

*NinjaPug* · 11-22-2016, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

But then what did Marvel get from Fox in return for letting them make their boring 'Legion' TV series? I mean, they wouldn't have just given them permission for free, right?

Marvel Television is working with them in producing the show. There's nothing to trade.

*ZariusTwo* · 11-22-2016, 12:27 PM

At least Marvel seem to be making an effort with re-prioritising the X-Men comic book line next year

retr0pia75 · 11-23-2016, 07:58 PM

Let's face it, the Fantastic Four are done for as a brand. Marvel doesn't care about them, Fox doesn't care about them, and the general public doesn't care about them, so why even bother hoping that they'll have a cultural rebound? And before anyone says that "but nobody cared about the Guardians of the Galaxy, and look where they are now!", that's because until their movie, they were never popular to begin with unlike the FF.

*Shark_Blade* · 11-24-2016, 03:26 AM

Sad and idiotic Fox.

*Coola Yagami* · 11-24-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by retr0pia75

And before anyone says that "but nobody cared about the Guardians of the Galaxy, and look where they are now!", that's because until their movie, they were never popular to begin with unlike the FF.

Plus their movie rocked. Had it sucked, then noone would have cared. Sadly the FF now have 3 crap movies to turn off potential fans of another one.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 11-24-2016, 05:50 PM

Would you guys also say that the FF are a product of their time because I've been getting that from some people.

*ToTheNines* · 11-24-2016, 05:58 PM

No, there's some awesome FF runs from the past 15 ish years. Chiefly the Mark Waid stuff.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 11-24-2016, 09:32 PM

They are Marvel's "First Family" of superheroes for a reason. They are just as interesting and relevant now as they were when created. And the first two movies weren't THAT bad. Sure Doom was a bit off, and Galactus WAY off, but of the four main characters, both Ben and Johnny were spot on, and Reed was fairly close too. Sue was the weakest link in terms of character, but not too much so. Silver Surfer was pretty good too. The tone might not have been as serious as it could have, but that was more a product of the script. It was heavy on humor but given the back and forth nature of Ben and Johnny that was within the scope of the characters so it worked. I've read FF for several years, and I feel that the first two were pretty close to their comic roots save for minor details- they weren't the travesty that the reboot was, that is for certain!

*sdp* · 11-24-2016, 10:04 PM

FF are definitely a product of their time and it's hard to re-invent them but that's not a bad thing and they work best when they're doing what they do best. Somethings just can't be adapted to modern times but that doesn't mean the original charm isn't nice.

I agree that the first two FF films aren't that bad, they're ok and definitely a bit generic but they are not bad from what I remember. My dad watched the reboot recently and really liked it but haven't watched it, making Jonny Storm black didn't get me too excited.

FF is really cool but yeah they're not what people want, they're more like explorers and they have some of the greatest foes in all of the Marvel Universe.

Cryomancer · 11-25-2016, 11:27 AM

FF are a product of their time for a starring role, but that's what period pieces are for. Or at least something with that same "Hell yeah, science, the future!" optimism, which was a real thing like many decades ago. Some of the tied-in villains could work in a modern film, sure. They are some of Marvel's strongest (as characters/presence) villains and that's been sort of a weak point in the films. The F4 themselves could work as supporting cast I'd imagine.

Leofan26 · 11-27-2016, 02:53 AM

Oh yah, well screw you too Fox!

How popular is Fantastic four? I loved the first two versions, the last reboot Fantastic four film UGH!

Though honestly I don't know how Marvel could fix that series any ways.

I wish Jackman wouldn't give up on his role for Wolverine

11-22-2016, 11:23 AM	#1
The Deadman Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,170	Kevin Feige Says A Partnership With Fox For X-MEN Or FANTASTIC 4 Is Impossible https://www.comicbookmovie.com/aveng...-x-men-a146994 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 didn't live up to Sony's expectations, but it was far from a flop, and the studio could have very easily pushed forward with both its planned sequels to that movie and the spinoffs revolving around the Sinister Six, Venom, and, er, Aunt May. Instead though, they made a historic deal with Marvel Studios to bring the wall-crawler into the MCU in Captain America: Civil War. So, with X-Men: Apocalypse vastly underperforming and Fantastic Four proving to be a huge flop, surely Marvel could make a deal with Fox to bring those characters into this world too, right? Not a chance. "It’s an impossibility at this juncture," Kevin Feige told Variety when they asked him exactly that. "We certainly have enough films to keep us busy for a number of lifetimes." So, it really doesn't sound as if the relationship between the two studios has got any better, and Feige sadly doesn't actually sound remotely interesting in bringing any of those characters into Marvel's Phase 4 or beyond for now. As for another rival studio in the form of Warner Bros. and its DC Films Universe, it doesn't sound like he's sweating the competition right now. "What other people are adapting from the comics medium, I watch with as much interest as I do any other movies. Because I’m a fan, and I want to see what other people are doing in the world. I’ve always believed in expanding the definition of what a Marvel Studios movie could be. We try to keep audiences coming back in greater numbers by doing the unexpected and not simply following a pattern or a mold or a formula." __________________ Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/Dead2009/ Backloggd: https://backloggd.com/u/Dead2009/ Dropkickd: https://www.dropkickd.com/user/Dead2009

11-22-2016, 11:48 AM	#2
GoldMutant Control Your Narrative Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: New England Posts: 1,763	Looks like Fox will suck them dry... with whatever is actually left at this point. __________________

11-22-2016, 12:27 PM	#6
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,500	At least Marvel seem to be making an effort with re-prioritising the X-Men comic book line next year __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-24-2016, 09:32 PM	#12
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	They are Marvel's "First Family" of superheroes for a reason. They are just as interesting and relevant now as they were when created. And the first two movies weren't THAT bad. Sure Doom was a bit off, and Galactus WAY off, but of the four main characters, both Ben and Johnny were spot on, and Reed was fairly close too. Sue was the weakest link in terms of character, but not too much so. Silver Surfer was pretty good too. The tone might not have been as serious as it could have, but that was more a product of the script. It was heavy on humor but given the back and forth nature of Ben and Johnny that was within the scope of the characters so it worked. I've read FF for several years, and I feel that the first two were pretty close to their comic roots save for minor details- they weren't the travesty that the reboot was, that is for certain! __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

11-24-2016, 10:04 PM	#13
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	FF are definitely a product of their time and it's hard to re-invent them but that's not a bad thing and they work best when they're doing what they do best. Somethings just can't be adapted to modern times but that doesn't mean the original charm isn't nice. I agree that the first two FF films aren't that bad, they're ok and definitely a bit generic but they are not bad from what I remember. My dad watched the reboot recently and really liked it but haven't watched it, making Jonny Storm black didn't get me too excited. FF is really cool but yeah they're not what people want, they're more like explorers and they have some of the greatest foes in all of the Marvel Universe. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

11-22-2016, 12:08 PM	#3
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	I think it would be cool to have these characters (mainly the F4 and its villains) pop up in the MCU but that's not why I want Marvel & Fox to work together. I just want someone else producing these movies outside of the current team at Fox - primarily Simon Kinberg. He sucks writing these characters but Fox keeps letting him work on these movies. It sounds like they've at least given Bryan Singer the boot. A Dr Strange movie should never out gross an X-Men movie at the box office but that's already happened this year and Strange has only been out for less than a month.

11-23-2016, 07:58 PM	#7
retr0pia75 Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 128	Let's face it, the Fantastic Four are done for as a brand. Marvel doesn't care about them, Fox doesn't care about them, and the general public doesn't care about them, so why even bother hoping that they'll have a cultural rebound? And before anyone says that "but nobody cared about the Guardians of the Galaxy, and look where they are now!", that's because until their movie, they were never popular to begin with unlike the FF.

11-24-2016, 03:26 AM	#8
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Sad and idiotic Fox.

11-24-2016, 05:50 PM	#10
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	Would you guys also say that the FF are a product of their time because I've been getting that from some people.

11-24-2016, 05:58 PM	#11
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,369	No, there's some awesome FF runs from the past 15 ish years. Chiefly the Mark Waid stuff.

11-25-2016, 11:27 AM	#14
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	FF are a product of their time for a starring role, but that's what period pieces are for. Or at least something with that same "Hell yeah, science, the future!" optimism, which was a real thing like many decades ago. Some of the tied-in villains could work in a modern film, sure. They are some of Marvel's strongest (as characters/presence) villains and that's been sort of a weak point in the films. The F4 themselves could work as supporting cast I'd imagine. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

11-27-2016, 02:53 AM	#15
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	Oh yah, well screw you too Fox! How popular is Fantastic four? I loved the first two versions, the last reboot Fantastic four film UGH! Though honestly I don't know how Marvel could fix that series any ways. I wish Jackman wouldn't give up on his role for Wolverine