2012 - Anyone else reliving it?

[Vegita-San]

My feelings on the show from the start where mixed. I loved the theme song. I loved the animation. I loved the music. Xever and Bradford pre mutation where awesome. New Shredder wasn't bad. I loved Tall splinter.

I hated Teen April and Casey. I hated Casey's design. Weakest Baxter Stockman ever.. he wasn't even a scientist. more like tech support.

But, I was willing to give it a chance for at least two seasons like I do with most new shows. And being Corporate TMNT now, I wouldn't feel so bad if I decided to stop watching, as they wouldn't miss me being a big empire .

Somewhere around Season 2 I began to loose interest, and it all but plummeted during the super weird farm retreat episodes of season 3. Season 4 renewed interest a little...but for the most part i had stopped caring as a die hard fan by then and didn't mind if I missed episodes.



Now that Season 5 is confirmed to be the last, I feel like it's time to finally go back to the beginning and re watch it from scratch. No long breaks. just 4 seasons back to back to back. I want to see if it runs better that way, also with no pre conceived notions of what it could be.

So far, I'm 8 episodes in...and I forgot how fun Season 1 was. Going from Memory, Season 1 to Season 2, something seemed to change. It'll be interesting to see if I can figure out what.

Anyone else doing the same thing?

[CyberCubed]

This is like your umpteenth post whining about the Nick cartoon. If you do decide to marathon the show properly without any breaks, you'll probably like it a lot more.

And teen April works fine for this show. If April was a 25+ year old woman interacting with Nick's Turtles, it would look weird as hell.

[snake]

Season 2 just sucked and everything since then has fluctuating levels of quality. Season 1 is so damn good outside of maybe 1 or 2 episodes.

[Aaronardo]

I rewatched Season 1 a while back and it reminded me how damn good it was. Sucks that we get only one season with Sternin and Ventimillia serving as excellent head writers, only to get four seasons after with Auman.

Honestly I loved Season 2, though. For its mediocre episodes, it really made up for it with some of its greats. It was Season 3 that started the horrible turn of events for me, with Season 4 just flat-out cementing it. Bleh. I feel like a broken record at this point.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Aaronardo

I rewatched Season 1 a while back and it reminded me how damn good it was. Sucks that we get only one season with Sternin and Ventimillia serving as excellent head writers, only to get four seasons after with Auman.

Honestly I loved Season 2, though. For its mediocre episodes, it really made up for it with some of its greats. It was Season 3 that started the horrible turn of events for me, with Season 4 just flat-out cementing it. Bleh. I feel like a broken record at this point.

so do I ;o). but what the hell, not much else to talk about with everything all but dead again.

Is that really what changed? hmm..I'll have to pay more attention to the writers.

I DO remember more weird stuff from season 2 on and less 'grounded' material.

Season three also has the WEIRDEST villain ever created in stage, screen, or film. who was that idiot that talked to his thumb?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

And teen April works fine for this show. If April was a 25+ year old woman interacting with Nick's Turtles, it would look weird as hell.

Not really, but like the Mirage comics, after her introduction she's probably back off and not be so involved in their adventures. She definitely won't be running around with them, and she probably wouldn't have a father to kidnap which was the main reason she was so involved in the adventures.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Not really, but like the Mirage comics, after her introduction she's probably back off and not be so involved in their adventures. She definitely won't be running around with them, and she probably wouldn't have a father to kidnap which was the main reason she was so involved in the adventures.

when i see some of these quoted texts, I sometimes wonder who works for nick on here and who doesn't with the quoted company lines ;o)

There was really no reason to get april so involved in their adventures, as it's pretty clear they don't know what to do with her. first they made her a ninja, then psychic powers...and now, she's just kind of there after her plot line with her father wrapped up.

MY guess was making april and casey a teen was a direction from Nick, because most ceo's think kids hate watching adults on screen.

That, and just about every show on a kids network has to have kids helping to save the day. 4 mutant turltle kids are not enough ;o)


I still sometimes wonder why they made Xever a Fish if they never intended to have any underwater adventures.

HE was pretty much written out of the show once he got mutated.
despite being included in the intro.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

teen April works fine for this show. If April was a 25+ year old woman interacting with Nick's Turtles, it would look weird as hell.

How so?

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

when i see some of these quoted texts, I sometimes wonder who works for nick on here and who doesn't with the quoted company lines ;o)

There was really no reason to get april so involved in their adventures, as it's pretty clear they don't know what to do with her. first they made her a ninja, then psychic powers...and now, she's just kind of there after her plot line with her father wrapped up.

Correction! They made her half-human/half-alien, then Jean Grey, and finally, a kunoichi. Initially, I did like the idea of April being a teenager as it was something different but they've made her less interesting for me.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

How so?

Correction! They made her half-human/half-alien, then Jean Grey, and finally, a kunoichi. Initially, I did like the idea of April being a teenager as it was something different but they've made her less interesting for me.

I forgot about the half human crap. and the invulnerability to mutagen for some reason, but also not ever touched upon again.

I'm guessing the jean grey reference (not a big xmen fan) was the Alien Crystal finale?

what little iremember of x 3 was something like that i think.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Correction! They made her half-human/half-alien, then Jean Grey, and finally, a kunoichi. Initially, I did like the idea of April being a teenager as it was something different but they've made her less interesting for me.

No it was human/alien hybrid, kunoichi then Jean Grey/Tetsuo, she had her little Phoenix force after she was made into a ninja.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

How so?

The producers went with April being a contemporary to the Turtles because they thought a grown woman with a job hanging out with a bunch of teenagers looked a little too inappropriate.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by snake

Season 2 just sucked and everything since then has fluctuating levels of quality. Season 1 is so damn good outside of maybe 1 or 2 episodes.

Season 2 had tons of great episodes. The only real weaker/bad ones was the Sir Malachi ep, and depending on what your view on the Pizzaface episode was.

All the other eps were pretty great or average. Season 3 again started off with a mixed bag as the Northampton eps were hit or miss, but after they got back to New York most of the eps were good.

Nearly all of Season 4 was enjoyable too. Only one I didn't care for was that one they went inside Mikey's mind at the beginning of the space arc.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

The producers went with April being a contemporary to the Turtles because they thought a grown woman with a job hanging out with a bunch of teenagers looked a little too inappropriate.

I know the reason for that. I'm asking CC why he thinks an Adult April wouldn't fit this version.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

The producers went with April being a contemporary to the Turtles because they thought a grown woman with a job hanging out with a bunch of teenagers looked a little too inappropriate.

The thing is though, that's how it's always been. And she's not hanging around normal kids. She's hanging with talking humanized turtles that at their age are capable of fighting ninja clans and alien invasions and saving the world. And she doesn't have to hang with them all that much since she has her own life to live.

[shredder orokusaki]

The show is 1-1,5 years awy from it's rumored end(that it might not be true since Nickelodeon willl be stupid to end my show so soon) and you are talking like it has already ended. Wait until season 5 ends and if by then we have OFFICIAL confirmation from nickelodeon thati t ends then come and make a thread like this. For now it is just a rumor. Delete it now and if needed recreate when we realy are at the end of the show. Dont believe anything rumor you read on the internet.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

The producers went with April being a contemporary to the Turtles because they thought a grown woman with a job hanging out with a bunch of teenagers looked a little too inappropriate.

None of the other shows had a problem with it, ESPECIALLY when 4kids april moved in for a bit. they looked after her like an adopted sister, and it was cute .

Nothing creepy at all..so I call bull on that excuse.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

My feelings on the show from the start where mixed. I loved the theme song. I loved the animation. I loved the music. Xever and Bradford pre mutation where awesome. New Shredder wasn't bad. I loved Tall splinter.

I hated Teen April and Casey. I hated Casey's design. Weakest Baxter Stockman ever.. he wasn't even a scientist. more like tech support.

But, I was willing to give it a chance for at least two seasons like I do with most new shows. And being Corporate TMNT now, I wouldn't feel so bad if I decided to stop watching, as they wouldn't miss me being a big empire .

Somewhere around Season 2 I began to loose interest, and it all but plummeted during the super weird farm retreat episodes of season 3. Season 4 renewed interest a little...but for the most part i had stopped caring as a die hard fan by then and didn't mind if I missed episodes.



Now that Season 5 is confirmed to be the last, I feel like it's time to finally go back to the beginning and re watch it from scratch. No long breaks. just 4 seasons back to back to back. I want to see if it runs better that way, also with no pre conceived notions of what it could be.

So far, I'm 8 episodes in...and I forgot how fun Season 1 was. Going from Memory, Season 1 to Season 2, something seemed to change. It'll be interesting to see if I can figure out what.

Anyone else doing the same thing?

I'm not able to rewatch (broken computer and Wii U cannot run Amazon vids) but I remember the excellent first season too. Season 2 became hit and miss, with good episodes like Wrath of Tigerclaw and Lonely Mutation, along with introducing Razhar. However, it was also the season that first emphasized how much they overdo it with the Fred Wolf elements, with an initial cameo by the FW Turtles later followed in the third with introducing B and R, displacing this show's native original mutant duo (who had pretty much degenerated to comic stand ins at this point.) Season Two is the season where characterization started to fall apart, with less development of the villains and overuse of the Kraang.

Season Three had a bad first half. Some of the episodes had good bits in them, but mostly they sucked. I watched all of the way up until Return, but after that, couldn't keep watching. Initially it was because of the bad computer, but by then most of the episodes didn't seem to be all that appealing after I read enough about them. I didn't like April's increasing Mary Suing, Rahzar and Fishface's further degeneration into generic mutant henchmen, Splinter's strange tendency to act like a cartoon rat at times (like being overly fond of cheese and having a giant exercise wheel) when he was originally a serious character who would fight to hold onto his humanity.

Season Four, even though I haven't watched it, I know the space episodes would not have appealed. I liked somewhat the idea of a crossover with the OT, it sort of introduced the idea of each 'universe' having their own 80's and Mirage dimension, which I liked as it minimizes TF's insult. However, this still comes off as relying too much on the OT, since it was pretty much done to appeal to older fans, and ultimately didn't seem to do much for the show thereafter. Now in this season Tigerclaw is in the process of getting nerfed, and April has reached the level of Jean Grey's Phoenix. I don't know if she'll stay that way without the crystal, but I wouldn't be surprised.

I know there is yet one more OT crossover to do, probably the last gasp to draw in fans before this show ends. If this show didn't rely so much on the OT already it would have been cute, but enough's enough already. I hope the next show doesn't do this this degree, even though I like the OT.

[neatoman]

Uh, well, looking back at it, season 1 is probably the best season. Just looking over an episode list, I see that it was a lot less "Mutant of the Week" and a lot more of establishing characters and plotlines.

This is probably why I find the show to ultimately be a bit of a disappointment, after season 1 the show just kind of stopped having an organic narrative. After that, most things just started to seem kind of forced.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

The thing is though, that's how it's always been. And she's not hanging around normal kids. She's hanging with talking humanized turtles that at their age are capable of fighting ninja clans and alien invasions and saving the world. And she doesn't have to hang with them all that much since she has her own life to live.

Nick's Turtles behave like young teenagers and look younger than all other incarnations, so yes an adult April with these Turtles would be weird.

In the original cartoon, 4kids, Mirage, etc....the Turtles all looked and behaved like 20 something year old College students. So April being a 28 year old woman fit better.

[Tarris Vaal]

I've found that early season 3 is a lot better when watched in one go. The delays we had to suffer through really didn't do that segment any favours first time around.