Rey's relation to Luke accidentally revealed by new toy (spoilers)

[CyberCubed]

Oops:

https://twitter.com/WickedSmaaaht/st...30162633199616



Heh, looks like someone is getting fired for letting the cat out of the bag. Even though it was obvious.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Oops:

https://twitter.com/WickedSmaaaht/st...30162633199616

http://i.imgur.com/qUQahJJ.jpg

Heh, looks like someone is getting fired for letting the cat out of the bag. Even though it was obvious.

I doubt that it's real, cause its easy for someone to just photoshop an image.

[MikeandRaph87]

First of all its best not to title the thread as you did as you are giving away a potential spoiler. Secondly, I believe both that Prime Leader Snoke is Darth Plageuis, the master of Palpitine until the movie series proves it wrong and I believe the same that Rey is Luke's daughter until the film series proves me wrong. The person who posted it might feel the same that I do. Its not a spoiler just strong speculation. So yes it could be wrong.

[snake]

You realize how dumb you are, right? Star Wars is kept to such secrecy that not even the actors know what certain plot lines are. Why would a merchandise lister know? I'm calling BS.

[CyberCubed]

Because this has happened before, and toys sometimes have accidental spoilers they're not supposed to reveal yet.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

So much for his kid being named Ben. I'm betting on her mother still being Mara Jade. Thirty years is a long time, after all, and it's possible the events of Heir to the Empire COULD have still happened in some form.... Mara hasn't been brought up in the Star Wars movies (yet) but they haven't exactly ruled her existence out, either. Maybe in this "new" timeline she died shortly after having Rey, or was forced to go into hiding and give her up.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

So much for his kid being named Ben

So much for... anyone honestly expecting that. Because that's dumb.

[ToTheNines]

[DestronMirage22]

Yeah, as seen above, it's real easy for someone to Photoshop something like that, so it's validity is seriously questionable.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

So much for his kid being named Ben. I'm betting on her mother still being Mara Jade. Thirty years is a long time, after all, and it's possible the events of Heir to the Empire COULD have still happened in some form.... Mara hasn't been brought up in the Star Wars movies (yet) but they haven't exactly ruled her existence out, either. Maybe in this "new" timeline she died shortly after having Rey, or was forced to go into hiding and give her up.

The EU was completely wiped out. No need to expect any of that stuff to show up in these movies.

[sdp]

Disney CEO Bob Iger mentioned they liked they were getting a huge universe of characters with Star Wars when they bought it. They've mentioned any character from the EU may still exist in the new canon albeit with some differences. Fan favorite EU character Admiral Thrawn is now canon and has appeared in Rebels and is getting a new book written by the same author of the Heir to the Emprie novels and he mentioned he'd make a few references to those books.

I'm not saying Mara Jade will ever be canon in these new movies but she could, I mean she does appear in the same novels as Thrawn which are some of the best selling SW books and which fans love the most.

[Shark_Blade]

From her default attire in Force Awakens, anyone could see her similarity to Luke...

I doubt she's his daughter though. The ending scene doesn't feel like father-daughter reunion at all.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

First of all its best not to title the thread as you did as you are giving away a potential spoiler.

haha exactly what I thought but it was something I want/seems obvious so I wasn't going to complain.

Secondly, I believe both that Prime Leader Snoke is Darth Plageuis, the master of Palpitine until the movie series proves it wrong

meh, I don't see that happening and not sure I like it either, why can't he just be a new character?

and I believe the same that Rey is Luke's daughter until the film series proves me wrong. The person who posted it might feel the same that I do. Its not a spoiler just strong speculation. So yes it could be wrong.

strong speculation? It's the most obvious answer and what most people want which is why I think they won't go that route and will make her something dumb like the speculated "granddaughter of Obi-Wan". And that the "Skywalker" line continues through Kylo Ren.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

So much for... anyone honestly expecting that. Because that's dumb.

In what way exactly is it dumb? That he would name his son after his mentor? That could still happen, assuming Rey is not the only little Skywalker running around out there.

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

The EU was completely wiped out. No need to expect any of that stuff to show up in these movies.

As I understand it it was not so much wiped out as retconned into rumor and legend, or altered to fit the new timeline in some cases. Up until TFA George had been acknowledging that EVERYTHING was canon, with vaying degrees of "canonicity" depending on what time period was involved, how far removed from the movies it was (ie if it was novel, comic or fanon) and whether a particular detail contradicted some other detail. And the only thing that is technically affected by the changes from TFA is anything from Truce at Bakura onward. IE the Solo kids (Jacen Jaina and Anikin Jr), Luke being "assassinated" (which technically he "was" even if it was his dark jedi clone....), Vector Prime, etc.... The Old Republic and Empirial eras really were not affected. So KotOR still stands IIRC. So should the events from the book which took place between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. (Can't recall the name of that one but it dealt with Vader searching for Luke, and Leia and Lando trying to plan how to rescue Han.)

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

In what way exactly is it dumb? That he would name his son after his mentor? That could still happen, assuming Rey is not the only little Skywalker running around out there.





As I understand it it was not so much wiped out as retconned into rumor and legend, or altered to fit the new timeline in some cases. Up until TFA George had been acknowledging that EVERYTHING was canon, with vaying degrees of "canonicity" depending on what time period was involved, how far removed from the movies it was (ie if it was novel, comic or fanon) and whether a particular detail contradicted some other detail. And the only thing that is technically affected by the changes from TFA is anything from Truce at Bakura onward. IE the Solo kids (Jacen Jaina and Anikin Jr), Luke being "assassinated" (which technically he "was" even if it was his dark jedi clone....), Vector Prime, etc.... The Old Republic and Empirial eras really were not affected. So KotOR still stands IIRC. So should the events from the book which took place between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. (Can't recall the name of that one but it dealt with Vader searching for Luke, and Leia and Lando trying to plan how to rescue Han.)

You are correct in that everything is now referred to as Legends.

The new story group declared that none of it was considered canon but they could use parts of it in the new canon going forward (like Thrawn in Rebels).

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

In what way exactly is it dumb? That he would name his son after his mentor? That could still happen, assuming Rey is not the only little Skywalker running around out there.

So both Han and Leia named their kid Ben, and Luke also might have named his kid Ben? That's retarded.

As I understand it it was not so much wiped out as retconned into rumor and legend, or altered to fit the new timeline in some cases. Up until TFA George had been acknowledging that EVERYTHING was canon, with vaying degrees of "canonicity" depending on what time period was involved, how far removed from the movies it was (ie if it was novel, comic or fanon) and whether a particular detail contradicted some other detail. And the only thing that is technically affected by the changes from TFA is anything from Truce at Bakura onward. IE the Solo kids (Jacen Jaina and Anikin Jr), Luke being "assassinated" (which technically he "was" even if it was his dark jedi clone....), Vector Prime, etc.... The Old Republic and Empirial eras really were not affected. So KotOR still stands IIRC. So should the events from the book which took place between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. (Can't recall the name of that one but it dealt with Vader searching for Luke, and Leia and Lando trying to plan how to rescue Han.)

Yeah, no. It's gone, wiped out. Old news. Maybe they loosely bring back in some EU stuff here and there, but probably not.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

So much for his kid being named Ben.

Ben is Kylo Ren's real name so there's at least a Skywalker descendant with the name.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

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As I understand it it was not so much wiped out as retconned into rumor and legend, or altered to fit the new timeline in some cases. Up until TFA George had been acknowledging that EVERYTHING was canon, with vaying degrees of "canonicity" depending on what time period was involved, how far removed from the movies it was (ie if it was novel, comic or fanon) and whether a particular detail contradicted some other detail. And the only thing that is technically affected by the changes from TFA is anything from Truce at Bakura onward. IE the Solo kids (Jacen Jaina and Anikin Jr), Luke being "assassinated" (which technically he "was" even if it was his dark jedi clone....), Vector Prime, etc.... The Old Republic and Empirial eras really were not affected. So KotOR still stands IIRC. So should the events from the book which took place between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. (Can't recall the name of that one but it dealt with Vader searching for Luke, and Leia and Lando trying to plan how to rescue Han.)

How can you have so much knowledge of the old EU but don't know that it's all non-canon? About two years ago StarWars.com announced it and even posted a video on youtube that said "oh yeah everything you've known and loved is gone" and there were articles everywhere, the logic was that it had become too convoluted and it might clash with their current plans but so far we're only two years into the new EU and it's already convoluted, give it ten more years and it'll be clashing with all the film projects they have anywho.

For me I'll continue enjoying good SW stories and not care about canon, there's already enough content for any person to see in their life to care about what is canon or not, I'll just enjoy the best of the best and not worry about contradictions.

It's really dumb, the old EU always had to deal with straight up contradictions because Lucas never cared about it so if he wanted something in his movies or something that contradicted he did it without caring and the EU would just come up with this lengthy explanation/retcon to make it work and they should've kept it like that. Make a book that dealt with a specific sith relic that when touched changed events in the past explaining away why Leia no longer has twins or whatnot but why destroy so many great stories like "oh yeah nothing happened"

[CyberCubed]

Star Wars like Marvel and DC have to do clean slates and reboots every 20-30 years because entire new generations of fans grow up and are not going read thousands of comics dating back 30 years to keep up with current continuity.

Except now DC and Marvel seems to be doing them every 5-10 years.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Star Wars like Marvel and DC have to do clean slates and reboots every 20-30 years because entire new generations of fans grow up and are not going read thousands of comics dating back 30 years to keep up with current continuity.

Except now DC and Marvel seems to be doing them every 5-10 years.

Marvel via Fox and Sony have been doing them, I doubt we'll see any reboots on the Disney side of Marvel for the foreseeable future.