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Old 12-31-2016, 02:37 PM   #161
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One thing we haven't really mentioned was the CPR on Karai scene, my heart jumped to my throat.

I love to see a CPR scenes in Cartoons, ever since Gargoyles when Elisa performed CPR on Angela, it's always given me chills when I watch it.
How did the CPR work through her armour?
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Old 12-31-2016, 02:44 PM   #162
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One thing we haven't really mentioned was the CPR on Karai scene, my heart jumped to my throat.

I love to see a CPR scenes in Cartoons, ever since Gargoyles when Elisa performed CPR on Angela, it's always given me chills when I watch it.
Yeah, that scene was very well done. There are so many amazing and emotional moments in this finale. The hospital scene was another great one. There are just too many to count. It'll be a few weeks, but I'm really, really looking forward seeing this in the English version.

I have to admit, the Korean version, except for a few voices (Fishface) did a great job in dubbing the characters. I can't understand them, but IMO many of the voices seem to fit or feel natural.
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Old 12-31-2016, 02:47 PM   #163
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Yeah, that scene was very well done. There are so many amazing and emotional moments in this finale. The hospital scene was another great one. There are just too many to count. It'll be a few weeks, but I'm really, really looking forward seeing this in the English version.

I have to admit, the Korean version, except for a few voices (Fishface) did a great job in dubbing the characters. I can't understand them, but IMO many of the voices seem to fit or feel natural.
I really liked Leo's voice.
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Old 12-31-2016, 02:56 PM   #164
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I really liked Leo's voice.
Yeah, me too. But my personal favorite was Mikey and Karai.


Anyone noticed that scene during the final fight when Shredder was holding Leo? For a moment, Shredder was distracted, or thinking about something after Leo had said something. I doubt it was regret but I was wondering why Shredder did that. What could Leo have said that stopped him for a moment?
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Old 12-31-2016, 02:56 PM   #165
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Finally saw them, and like Bill Buckner and Mookie Wilson said during their rewatch of the '86 Series:
Bill: That really happened didn't it?
Mookie: (smiling) It did.
(both chuckle looking back on that moment of infamy)

I too look forward to the dialogue exchanges between Splinter and Leo in "Requiem", the family bonding in "Owari", and the final villain and hero exchanges.
--I thought Karai would've hired the Mutanimals earlier in S4B for her quest to take over the Foot Clan but I still can't wait to hear their English exchanges as well.
--Speaking of Karai, the poor girl just can't get a break. She needed her father and now she's the only Hamato (or Yoshi) human family member left. If only she took more advantage of her freedom and had gotten to spend more time with him this season.
--I personally would've liked to have seen the Mutanimals fight in "Owari" as well. They are as much family as April and Casey are.
--Splinter's fate in AE was tragic since there was no Tang Shen to take the hit for him that time. It was more tragic in "Requiem" because now there was neither Tang Shen nor Fugitoid (who was here just 11 episodes ago) to save him again.
--I don't buy for a second that Rahzar, even B&R, are dead until I see them (or not) next season. Xever's fate was overkill but I'll buy for now that he's a casualty.
--Good catch on Casey in these episodes guys. I never thought about that. I have believed that he and Mikey have shared a good, credible bond but him being more part of this family really makes me want to catch the English dialogue.
--Shinigami did not live up to the hype. Or any (strong) reason to be included.
--Tiger Claw has to die next season and I still feel it should be Karai who must do it. From the clip we saw of him summoning Kavaxas next season, he does not have any remorse nor does he have any care about the consequences of his own wrong choices from this season or seasons past.
--I'm not sure if "Requiem" is top 10 but "Owari" is at least top 5.

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Anyone noticed that scene during the final fight when Shredder was holding Leo? For a moment, Shredder was distracted, or thinking about something after Leo had said something. I doubt it was regret but I was wondering why Shredder did that. What could Leo have said that stopped him for a moment?
I hope it was something about Tang Shen. In Saki's sad, twisted way I believe that he must have thought all along in this series that striking down Yoshi would be a way of honoring her death even though we know that Yoshi's not the true one responsible. I'm hoping that there's some mention of her during these two episodes in some way. "Darkest Plight" did a good job of that and I hope it happens here too.

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Old 12-31-2016, 03:05 PM   #166
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Yeah, me too. But my personal favorite was Mikey and Karai.


Anyone noticed that scene during the final fight when Shredder was holding Leo? For a moment, Shredder was distracted, or thinking about something after Leo had said something. I doubt it was regret but I was wondering why Shredder did that. What could Leo have said that stopped him for a moment?
I too was wondering what was said.
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Old 12-31-2016, 04:05 PM   #167
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Question Shredder?

It's Shredder really dead?
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That is well only Kuro Kaboto? I don't see Shredder's head inside?
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Old 12-31-2016, 04:29 PM   #168
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That is well only Kuro Kaboto? I don't see Shredder's head inside?
As Super Shredder, I'm pretty sure his head was merged with his helmet so getting his helmet off without killing him would be impossible (I think)
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Old 12-31-2016, 04:44 PM   #169
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I just thought of something, I wonder if something got cut out when Leo killed Shredder.

Don't some Asian countries like China have a rule about not showing people having there heads cut off on TV ect, or am I thinking about something else.
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Old 12-31-2016, 04:52 PM   #170
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I just thought of something, I wonder if something got cut out when Leo killed Shredder.

Don't some Asian countries like China have a rule about not showing people having there heads cut off on TV ect, or am I thinking about something else.
Its certainly possible. I've heard of South Korea banning beheadings on the Internet in the context of Isis, but never this.

I think the scene most likely is the same as the English version. Showing a characters getting cut off would be too graphic even by our standards so Nick took the safe route and made it happen off screen.
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Old 12-31-2016, 05:24 PM   #171
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Its certainly possible. I've heard of South Korea banning beheadings on the Internet in the context of Isis, but never this.

I think the scene most likely is the same as the English version. Showing a characters getting cut off would be too graphic even by our standards so Nick took the safe route and made it happen off screen.
The 4Kids series showed shredder's head falling off after the battle against Leo, But finding out the next episode that he was a robot.
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Old 12-31-2016, 05:40 PM   #172
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The 4Kids series showed shredder's head falling off after the battle against Leo, But finding out the next episode that he was a robot.
I mean as in the blade going through the neck on screen and then severing the head, they would never show it like that.

Heads falling off on the other hand, they can show because the decapitation happens off screen and no blood is shown.

They probably didn't show Shredder's head inside the helmet because it would be too disturbing, especially if the turtles decide to hang up the kabuto in their lair.

Whereas in the 4kids series, we couldn't actually see Shredder's facial features after being beheaded due to his helmet looking more robotic and less human (even when people didn't know he was an utrom), Nick Shredder's helmet showed his eyes, his mouth and looked overall more human, so it was for the best to just show his helmet come off and not his entire head as that would be very inappropriate for this show's main demographic.

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Old 12-31-2016, 11:19 PM   #173
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I finally saw the episodes. As I said before, I'm glad they demutated Baxter, but I wonder why they chose to. Sadly, I get the feeling he'll get mutated again.

They also tried to demutate Shredder, but it had no effect. Perhaps the mutation effects on him are too far gone?
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loved the first movie reference with Shredder falling in the garbage truck and Casey activating it before casually saying "Oops"
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I finally saw the episodes. As I said before, I'm glad they demutated Baxter, but I wonder why they chose to. Sadly, I get the feeling he'll get mutated again.

They also tried to demutate Shredder, but it had no effect. Perhaps the mutation effects on him are too far gone?
Well he was demuted but only to a weaker stage. The turtles would of needed a lot of retromutagen to get him back to normal.

It would be similar to Rahzar, if they put retro mutagen on him he wouldn't go back to human, he go back to Dogpound. So they would need more retro mutagen to get him back to human.
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Old 01-01-2017, 03:53 AM   #176
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The 4Kids series showed shredder's head falling off after the battle against Leo, But finding out the next episode that he was a robot.
Correct, except you're 11 episodes off. The head was cut off near the end of season 1 but it wasn't confirmed he had a robotic body until roughly a third into season 2.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:29 AM   #177
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It would be similar to Rahzar, if they put retro mutagen on him he wouldn't go back to human, he go back to Dogpound. So they would need more retro mutagen to get him back to human.
Well that, I figured. I just wonder if we'll see him again.

Fishface though, if he's dead, then that was quite a way to do him in.
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They might have him return and left it assumed he somehow managed to crawl into the water after the turtles left the scene. He wasn't that far from the waters edge.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:37 AM   #179
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Guys, I have to say, I have never seen so much darkness in an incarnation of the TMNT. (I never read the original one in the Mirage comics).

Just one question, anyone knows what the shell happened to Rahzar? I didn't saw him in the last battle of the last episode.

One more thing, did you recognize the reference to the original TMNT's movie from the 90s at "Requiem"? When the Shredder fall into a dumpster truck and Casey activates it to crush him?
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:53 AM   #180
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Where are you guys watching these? I usually hate watching anything with subtitles but I'm tired of waiting.

Edit: no subtitles, that's fine. Anyone have links to the new episodes? I tried my hardest not to read every spoiler but...it's too late for that now.

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