Sherlock

[saintsaucey]

Wait so tonight's episode isn't a special just the first of three for the season? Lame.

Also was Irene Adler's client supposed to be Kate Middleton ?

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by saintsaucey

Wait so tonight's episode isn't a special just the first of three for the season? Lame.

I don't follow, you think it's "lame" that we're getting three new episodes?

[saintsaucey]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I don't follow, you think it's "lame" that we're getting three new episodes?

I thought we were getting a special then three new episodes

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by saintsaucey

I thought we were getting a special then three new episodes

The special was last year.

[Shark_Blade]

From the recent episode, I think I'm liking Season 4 much more than Season 3. Things are going dark indeed.

Speaking of the special "The Abominable Bride", that was my favorite as well. Gotta love Victorian era, and I laughed that Mrs Hudson was not given any lines (just like in the novels) and she was getting so peeved about it.

[ZariusTwo]

Any theories on "Go to Hell, Sherlock", spoken by Mary at the end?

I read a fan theory she could be referring to a Norwegian town

Another (far likelier) possibility is Mary is describing what carting for a grieving John is going to be like

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Any theories on "Go to Hell, Sherlock", spoken by Mary at the end?

I read a fan theory she could be referring to a Norwegian town

Another (far likelier) possibility is Mary is describing what carting for a grieving John is going to be like

Considering we saw Mary in Norway during the episode (and where she got a passport in a hidden stone), the thought had crossed my mind too. Or just that she predicted that Sherlock would be the death of her, and the cause of John's grief.

[AT-Man]

Can we not do spoilers or even possible spoilers until the episodes have aired? I want to be surprised, so I don't check which actors are in how many episodes, and such information.

After the new episode I started to watch the series from the beginning, thinking I would watch an episode a day. I have now watched four.

[NinjaPug]

Could've done without the John texting random bus girl stuff.

[Shark_Blade]

Some people said that was actually John's older sister - Harry (short for Harriet).

I kinda doubt it cause their eyes look kinda flirty. And why would she gave her number, he should've known it all this time.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Some people said that was actually John's older sister - Harry (short for Harriet).

I kinda doubt it cause their eyes look kinda flirty. And why would she gave her number, he should've known it all this time.

She signed her initial as "E" didn't she?

[Shark_Blade]

Yep. And John's full name doesn't have any "E".

It's Dr. John. H. Watson.

[saintsaucey]

Originally Posted by AT-Man

Can we not do spoilers or even possible spoilers until the episodes have aired? I want to be surprised, so I don't check which actors are in how many episodes, and such information.

After the new episode I started to watch the series from the beginning, thinking I would watch an episode a day. I have now watched four.

You posted this yesterday and the episode aired the day before. So sure we can wait till after each episode has aired. To talk about it.

[Mayhem]

Well that was a bit of a cliffhanger!

Spoiler:

Although my brother and I twigged something was up with the psychiatrist as we thought she looked a little similar to a certain someone else... and we were correct! Still don't think it's actually the mystery "brother" however.

[ZariusTwo]

Spoiler:

Yeah, I'm actually thinking the third Holmes brother will be Moriarty himself...just a feeling (well, that and I saw a photo of Andrew Scott on set coming out of a helicopter)

I thought she was going to be Moriarty in drag or Irene Adler the longer she took her time removing her disguise.

The exchange between Sherlock and Culverton in the children's ward was frightening. In fact I noticed the ladies working on the breakfast cereal ad were also kind of underage-looking. Yes, Culverton was clearly based on Jimmy Saville, although they thankfully only made light allusions to Saville tropes and made it more about his serial killer fetish.

Mrs Hudson is fierce behind that wheel.

[AT-Man]

Oh my, favorite episode yet! Toby Jones is incredible, give him all the awards.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Spoiler:

The exchange between Sherlock and Culverton in the children's ward was frightening. In fact I noticed the ladies working on the breakfast cereal ad were also kind of underage-looking. Yes, Culverton was clearly based on Jimmy Saville, although they thankfully only made light allusions to Saville tropes and made it more about his serial killer fetish.

Spoiler:

Saville crossed with Harold Shipman. As soon as the mortuary scene came up, we were wondering if he was killing people quietly in his own hospital, out of the way. The final clue was when he mentioned repeatedly sacking the architect, because he had been asking various members of staff how long they had worked there each time something went a bit awry. He ws gauging whether he could trust them or not, because whether they'd know something.

I suppose the only remaining question is... how did whoever the psychiatrist really is (Euros) get hold of the scribbled note to give to Sherlock? Was Culverton's daughter another patient of hers and she gave her the note? Apparently Euros said Culverton gave it to her. Why I wonder? There had been clues laid btw, there was repeated talk of "the east wind" (Euros in Greek) in series three, Moffat and Gattis doing it again! Is Euros Sherringford that Mycroft has a meeting with? Or a place?

[Mayhem]

Verdict on the finale?

Spoiler:

I honestly think Gatiss and Moffat were tripping balls for writing this series, as some of it has been seriously out there. And all the better for it, once you get your head around it. My brother and I did see a couple of things coming, such as Euros literally being able to just walk out of the asylum, and noticing at the same time as John in the episode about whose voice was on the tapes. That the plane may not be real, and in someone's head (like Sherlock tripping last episode). And Redbeard. Thought it was an odd name for a dog, and wondered if it was really a dog given Sherlock had blanked out memory of Euros. No, it wasn't a dog.

Didn't really give any on screen closure to Molly though, given what Sherlock made her say. I was hoping we'd see a bit there for him to explain, but given she was in 221B during the montage at the end, she must have forgiven him and they've reconciled if nothing else.

[ZariusTwo]

Not a bad finale, but I kind of thought it fell apart with it's multiple twists at the end

Spoiler:

I thought Victor/redbeard was the fourth brother, until it became clear on a reviewing that he was Sherlock's original "best friend", also why was Uros still in her nightgown when Sherlock finds her in the bedroom when she had shown herself to constantly change outfits when allowed to roam free in the prior episode? The idea that she just wanted Sherlock to play with her and help her get out of her mind palace at the end was a tad too convoluted and narrarively just did'nt allign with what she'd been doing all episode.

Is this a detective show, or an attempt at aping an X-Men movie? Because Urous is pretty much a mutant with that ability she had of maximum persuasion. You mean to tell me Moriarty's whole agenda in The Reichenbach Fall was because he was promoted by Sherlock's mary sue sibling? Kind of taints the effectiveness of that episode now knowing Jim was a mind-warped pawn and not his own man.

Still, I'm quite satisfied that Sherlock's "I love you" was aimed at Molly, even if he was only forced to say it to save her life...I liked the little tantrum he had after he was emotionally compromised. I wonder where this leaves the two of them? Molly seemed pretty pleased when she appeared in the last scene, so either she forgave him for the call, or they're taking a decent stab at a relationship (ok, that's a big stretch, but eh, would be best for Rosie)

[AT-Man]

Spoiler:

Haaahahaha, what an amazing ending! That was the perfect note to end the series, because it couldn't possibly get any more balls to the wall crazy than that. I mean that with love, because I loved the episode. I could see a more traditional tv series taking place after this, with Sherlcok and Watson solving "normal" cases in 20-40 minute episodes. Wouldn't oppose to that idea, because I think they have now done absolutely everything with the original format.

Thank you, creators of Sherlock!