Young Justice animated series

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

First one..

there was either a movie or an episode where it was a 'family of bat people'. i just found all the extra characters redundant. i think there was one called 'batwing' and a robot batman or something. sometimes adding on new stuff kind of deludes the stuff that is already there.


re context.

OK then. in that case, yes. it fits. i thought they where in a bar in modern times and and it's like 'come on...'...

re relationships
I'm one of those people who thinks even STRAIGHT romances are boring and tiresome and slow things down, so i'd rather not see those on screen either.. i could care less about iris and flash. i'd rather see him battling the giant shark monster than buying an apartment for someone he keeps on erasing every time he makes some progress with their relationship.

every romance angle in dragronball z slows the action down and is so odd it feels forced. get rid of it and just focus on the characters and action. ugh.


I agree that in time it'll even itself out and people won't have a problem with it. I don't have a problem with it now. But I DO have a problem with how it sometimes feels forced into stuff just to appear 'progressive'. ret conning all these characters to be gay, yet refusing to create NEW characters who are gay for starters. it just shows they have no faith in those characters taking off. hell, even having side characters that are original in the hopes they take off i don't think they've done. it's easier to make lois gay than create a new friend.

and then you have all these websites that turn it into an issue and it just comes off wrong. there are ways to do it and ways to do it right.

i hope this is one of those ways.

Okay fine but would't it make since to people if you said you were against extra characters/romance in general regardless of gender/orientation because it seems like you are saying that you were against these relationships because they were pushing an agenda.

[plastroncafe]

But if they did that they'd just be a rational person with a personal preference, and where's the fun in that?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

re relationships
I'm one of those people who thinks even STRAIGHT romances are boring and tiresome and slow things down, so i'd rather not see those on screen either.. i could care less about iris and flash. i'd rather see him battling the giant shark monster than buying an apartment for someone he keeps on erasing every time he makes some progress with their relationship.

I'm with Vegeta here. I'm overwhelmingly bored by so much of season one of YJ on account of the constant shipping between Miss Martian and Superboy, and it's another reason why season 2 is so much more appealing to me.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by PApagreg

Okay fine but would't it make since to people if you said you were against extra characters/romance in general regardless of gender/orientation because it seems like you are saying that you were against these relationships because they were pushing an agenda.

only when it doesn't come natural do I feel like it's an agenda.

and i think switching characters who where previously straight gay, or changing them from white to black to asian, or making one that was previously female male seems like an agenda to me. it just seems like they dno't think original characters like the one they are now switching would fly, and they need a built in audience.


when you force it on a character that it wasn't previously, be it a race, gender, or orientation change, it just says 'we're progressive, but we don't believe in it enough to go original, so here is this simpler change'...

stuff like this I feel belongs more on an adult show anyway. kids find romance stuff boring of any kind.

oh well, i said my piece make of it what you will, as the internet is want to do.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

I'm with Vegeta here. I'm overwhelmingly bored by so much of season one of YJ on account of the constant shipping between Miss Martian and Superboy, and it's another reason why season 2 is so much more appealing to me.

didn't season two make it even WORSE by making it a love triangle between the annoying lagoon boy and conner?

but yeah, that was tiresome.

[plastroncafe]

I found the break from beating the Daddy Issue drum to be a welcome change.

[ToTheNines]

Their relationship was super shallow in season 1. But everything they went through, plus the 5 year jump, helped it become actually interesting in Invasion.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Their relationship was super shallow in season 1. But everything they went through, plus the 5 year jump, helped it become actually interesting in Invasion.

the only part of it i remember liking was when she revealed she was a white martian and showed her true form and he still cared anyway.

Now that I think of it, wasn't there a stupid romance triangle with kid flash in season one too?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

didn't season two make it even WORSE by making it a love triangle between the annoying lagoon boy and conner?

That was a lot more subtle in execution, so I didn't mind that.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I found the break from beating the Daddy Issue drum to be a welcome change.

Oh God, that's another reason I can't stand season one either. Everyone had this big secret (in Artemis's case, being related to Sportsmaster) they had to keep, and it culminated into probably the most ridiculously-written 'revelation' scene I've ever witnessed.

[sdp]

YJ had overdone/overdramatic relationships and it affected the show but I guess that's what made it popular on tumblr. Weisman did a good job in Spectacular Spider-Man but he turned it up to 11 for YJ and the show suffered for it. That's my complain more than there were too many characters.

I'm ok with gay characters as long as it's not LOOK HOW PROGRESSIVE WE ARE which sadly is what has overcome the internet in recent years with their PC crap. There's a way to do things and yes "social justice" isn't always correct. That article's headline is the way not to handle this but whatever I've come to learn that arguing with the "progressive" left is as pointless as the far right, ironic isn't it?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

I'm with Vegeta here. I'm overwhelmingly bored by so much of season one of YJ on account of the constant shipping between Miss Martian and Superboy, and it's another reason why season 2 is so much more appealing to me.

Really? Season 1 was a much better and tightly written season than the second. The main cast was smaller so the characterisation was better, we saw all the characters learning to work together for the first time, and the villain set up and mysteries were better.

Season 2's Reach story could have been condensed a lot without losing too much and a lot of the extra characters didn't get much focus or screentime like Wonder Girl and many others

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I think season 2 is better-written in that the cogs of the plot spin more fluidly.
In season 1, the overarching story arc - if there even is any - feels like it's constantly stuttering.

It's interesting how completely different the two seasons are from each other in terms of pacing and focus, and I'm wondering if that was partly a conscious decision on the part of the producers.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by sdp

YJ had overdone/overdramatic relationships and it affected the show but I guess that's what made it popular on tumblr. Weisman did a good job in Spectacular Spider-Man but he turned it up to 11 for YJ and the show suffered for it. That's my complain more than there were too many characters.

I'm ok with gay characters as long as it's not LOOK HOW PROGRESSIVE WE ARE which sadly is what has overcome the internet in recent years with their PC crap. There's a way to do things and yes "social justice" isn't always correct. That article's headline is the way not to handle this but whatever I've come to learn that arguing with the "progressive" left is as pointless as the far right, ironic isn't it?

Isn't tumbler SJW central, or is that another site?

pretty much all hollywood is these days is 'Look how progressive and RIGHT we are'..... Most probably don't even believe in what they do, they just want to be seen as the loudest voice on what they deem as the right side.

all these live action DC shows with a woman president are just laughable now. they where so sure it was going to happen this time ;o). and its sad as it should have happened by now.

[Autbot_Benz]

I was just happy when Season 2 came along and Miss Martian stopped saying Hello Megan every 5 seconds god that was annoying

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

I was just happy when Season 2 came along and Miss Martian stopped saying Hello Megan every 5 seconds god that was annoying

I have to admit, the payoff for that was almost worth the annoyance.
But yeah...I'm glad the catch-phrase went the way of the dodo as well.

[Cure]

But then you get Beast Boy saying "noted"...and Lagoon Boy yelling about Neptune's beard all the time.

[ToTheNines]

I was pretty whelmed by all the catchphrases.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I was pretty whelmed by all the catchphrases.

[Vegita-San]

we all did enjoy this show, and are glad it's coming back, right? )

[CyberCubed]

It's almost as if people forget Young Justice was also supposed to be a kids show. Same reason Teen Titans has Cyborg yell, "Boo-ya!" and Beast Boy says, "Dude," and Starfire speaks in engrish.