LGBT in TMNT

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Not particularly. I mean girls usually naturally act more affectionate than guys. Guys can't even hug without saying 'no homo' for fear of their masculinity being put into question.

A yup.
Women and girls are allowed to be affectionate towards each other.

Physical affection does not not always a sexual attraction make,

Originally Posted by Ceres

Krang no doubt could be a bisexual, seeing as he had a thing for Shreeka in the past and his current partnership with Shredder conducts that he has a gay root too.

To the topic Karai/Shinigami...its all different views, they can be like best friends from childhood or lesbians, either way is possible, to rule one out however is not really a solution. In the end everything stays a headcanon until the creators state it.

I don't believe that using human sexual orientations or even human genders really works for alien creatures.

[DisKosh]

Nick Mikey seems to have a crush on Leatherhead (although it would be ****ed up if it were reciprocated). I think it's cute, like a kid having a crush on their baby sitter or something.

I don't think you can really pin a sexuality or gender onto it but 2003 Mikey doesn't care about gender roles which is refreshing. He doesn't mind dressing up in female clothing, in fact he appears to enjoy it. That alone isn't really enough to pin down a specific gender but he could be non-binary preferring he/him pronouns.

In the 2003 series Casey and Raph sometimes seem more like a couple than friends. There's this one episode where they're standing there and Casey's arm's draped casually over his shoulder like an old couple. It's really sweet.

[Ceres]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

A yup.
Women and girls are allowed to be affectionate towards each other.

Physical affection does not not always a sexual attraction make,



I don't believe that using human sexual orientations or even human genders really works for alien creatures.

So this whole thread would lead ad absurdum seeing as this also goes for mutants and whatever else creatures there is in the TMNT universe

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Ceres

So this whole thread would lead ad absurdum seeing as this also goes for mutants and whatever else creatures there is in the TMNT universe

I would say that's likely true for non-Terran characters, but the turtles and any home-grown mutants are still steeped in human culture. Enough that I think it could be argued that such designation/categories would be applicable.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Prowler

I don't see what makes you think 87 Don might be bi considering he hasn't shown any interest in any male. And the closest thing he showed to an interest was blushing after April kissed him or something. Also remember that episode where, at the end, the Turtles argue who April winked at at the end of the emission and then it turned out to be Splinter? All four Turtles argued she winked at them.

And ofc the Irma chemistry thing in Donatello's Degree.

So yes, I'd say straight.

He got lucky he didn't consume that love potion thing, though. But I'm sure he'd be straight.

Notice I said POSSIBLY bi/asexual- other than the one or two incidents with Irma and April, he really didn't seem to have ANY interest in females, which would perhaps indicate he had "other" interests, or none at all.

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Don had Adam from the Ninja Tribunal. His interactions with April never seemed romantic to me, and he didn't care when she went for Casey.

And Bradford... and Leatherhead....

In the first few episodes (before April and Casey even met, and in a few before they became a "thing", Don's interest in her was hinted at being more than just admiration or friendship over mutual interests (science), as he seemed to spend the most time with her. So there has always been speculation that he had a mild crush. Note the word MILD. He eventually moved on, though even in Wedding Bells and Bytes he seemed to still have feelings for her beyond mere friendship.


Mikey- Leatherhead and Bradford? SERIOUSLY??!! Bradford was just plain hero-worship, which is a whole different thin. And Leatherhead is clearly just a BFF situation- nothing more than a platonic "big brother" kind of thing. You've been on Deviant Art, haven't you?

Originally Posted by DisKosh

Nick Mikey seems to have a crush on Leatherhead (although it would be ****ed up if it were reciprocated). I think it's cute, like a kid having a crush on their baby sitter or something.

I don't think you can really pin a sexuality or gender onto it but 2003 Mikey doesn't care about gender roles which is refreshing. He doesn't mind dressing up in female clothing, in fact he appears to enjoy it. That alone isn't really enough to pin down a specific gender but he could be non-binary preferring he/him pronouns.

In the 2003 series Casey and Raph sometimes seem more like a couple than friends. There's this one episode where they're standing there and Casey's arm's draped casually over his shoulder like an old couple. It's really sweet.

No, that's not a "crush", Mikey views him as a "big brother" more than anything. Possibly also feels a sense of responsibility toward him since he felt guilty when LH ended up trapped in Dimension X, but it is clearly platonic. He's just very demonstrative with his affection, unlike his brothers- he's a hugger.

In all the eps where he has to "play dress-up". Mikey in 2k3 seems to be annoyed by the fact that HE always plays the "girl" part, which seems to indicate that he may feel it makes him appear gay. (Could be a cover-up, but in his case, I doubt it- he's too open with his thoughts and feelings most of the time for that to be a real possibility.) He also seems to like Sydney, once he realized she wasn't just "a monster". The fact that he never really gravitates toward anyone of either gender in 2k3 may have just been due to lack of options, though his apparent vanity (especially in FF season) and insistence that he's the "cute/good-looking" one makes me think he would be a total ladies' man if given half a chance....

Raph and Casey are an interesting study in machismo stereotypes. On the one hand, there COULD be something going on there that neither wants to admit to, but on the other, it generally looks like nothing more than a couple of guys showing their friendship in the only way acceptable to either.

[Andrew NDB]

Not touching this thread with a ten foot pole.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Uh, I think you just DID!!

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Not touching this thread with a ten foot pole.

I think commenting on it not only metaphorical counts as touching it but caressing it

As for 2k3 Don didn't he also have a crush on that alien chick or the mutant chick or am I remebering it wrong

As for Shini and Karai even in terms of girls being more affectionate towards another you gotta admit there is something between them

[ToTheNines]

I used to think IDW Mike and Woody could be gay, but that was back in like 2011/early 2012.

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Mikey- Leatherhead and Bradford? SERIOUSLY??!! Bradford was just plain hero-worship, which is a whole different thin. And Leatherhead is clearly just a BFF situation- nothing more than a platonic "big brother" kind of thing. You've been on Deviant Art, haven't you?

Dude, he went so far as to spitefully unfriend him on Facebook after being wronged by him. That's love lol.

He totally wanted to peak under that hakama.

Originally Posted by PApagreg

As for Shini and Karai even in terms of girls being more affectionate towards another you gotta admit there is something between them

https://secure.static.tumblr.com/897...oc8ksc_640.gif

Yeah, it dosen't even have to go as far as Nieli or Yeo, but either the animators or story board team thinks Shini loves Karai.

[Andrew NDB]

All right, I'll nudge it. Not up on all the different orientation terms, but for Mirage...

Leo, Mike, Don, and Raph are all straight. And yes, that means they might bone alien or mutated chicks. I'm pretty sure Laird or Eastman would say the Turtles wouldn't do human chicks, but then there's the Leonardo-Radical issue that squeaked by under Murphy's sole watch... so that happened and I'm grudgingly OK with it remaining.

There.

Louis Braunze seemed kind of... questionable, in Volume 2. And who knows what Rat King is.

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, agree, typing out a reply counts as fondling the thread.

Originally Posted by PApagreg

As for 2k3 Don didn't he also have a crush on that alien chick or the mutant chick or am I remebering it wrong

That blue(?) alien warrior, I think? Who fought the current ruler of her people to take over the position for the better.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

but then there's the Leonardo-Radical issue that squeaked by under Murphy's sole watch...

Historically... definitely human fever in that one. lol Has he ever been into anyone who isn't human?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

That blue(?) alien warrior, I think? Who fought the current ruler or her people to take over the position for the better.

Jhanna? She's in Mirage, too. Mike Dooney character. But not blue in that. And will have a big return in "Origin."

[ToTheNines]

There's also this scene:

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Historically... definitely human fever in that one. lol Has he ever been into anyone who isn't human?

In "Beyond the Known Universe", he flirts with that alien woman before getting chased off by her man.

He wanted to slay Venus pretty badly in TNM.

That's all I got.

[CyberCubed]

Come to think of it, a lot of the one-shot human characters in the original cartoon, especially the ones played by Cam Clarke or Rob Paulsen were probably gay.

Cam and Rob would always put on this flamboyant accent when playing one-episode human characters in the OT. The fat ship guy in "Funny, they shrunk Michaelangelo" comes to mind, as well as the guy who had wax paint model robots of a whole bunch of TMNT related characters.

[Prowler]

Isn't Cam Clarke gay, though? I dunno if Rob Paulsen is, however. never heard anything about him being gay or not. But Paulsen has a very suitable voice for cartoon characters.

[ToTheNines]

Clarke is, Paulsen is not.

But yes, cubed, Monroe Q. Flem was absolutely gay.

[ABrown]

Dr. Abigail Finn - http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Abigail_Finn

[snake]

Originally Posted by ABrown

Dr. Abigail Finn - http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Abigail_Finn

Oh yeah, totally. You just know.

[CyberCubed]

I remember when Fast Forward was originally airing people thought Serling was gay. I'm not sure its possible for there to be homosexual robots, but then again Futurama has those.

[ToTheNines]

And Star Wars.