Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows-One More Chance

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I think I brought this up before here, but apparently he told fans at conventions he'd been pitching a marriage comeback for a while, and only got permission to do RYV when Secret Wars came about.

I do remember that. I guess I'm not sure if Slott wanted it long-term or just short-term, or if he's satisfied with what he did with it now.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Yes, but Slott also said elements from RYV would greatly impact the books later on. We've seen that manifest through the use of Regent in 616, the "deja vu" Peter and MJ had when fighting him, and in promoting the RYV ongoing, Conway hinted there would be potential for a crossover between the two universes eventually.

True, however did Slott want more than just Regent to carry over?

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I suspect Slott would relish the oppertunity to compare and contrast Peter the single CEO with Peter the humble working-class family man who has everything that Mephisto said his devil-dealing counterpart would pretty much never have.

Well, considering all the suggestions that Parker Industries may be going down the tubes, Slott and Conway might want to work out a crossover soon, if they want to do one. Having the Peter Parker who wound up single but running a big corporation meeting a version of himself who's been less successful career-wise, but is raising a family with the woman that in his own life things fell apart with is a more interesting contrast between a bachelor and family man Peter who're both in a similar financial position. There's a bigger contrast into the circumstances and choices they made, and what they gave up and what they gained instead.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I don't think they're as surprised as they let on. When they found out the newspaper strip was going to bring the marriage back after running for only a few months with a single Peter, they simply said "they can do their story, we'll do ours", they've always been aware there was something to keep the marriage fans going. Slott has brought up the strip several times, even telling fans to read it while Superior Spider-Man was running, and then he wrote a strip story himself for Spide-Verse, taking credit for "sparing" the strip's version of Peter from the events of that story that had already claimed the life of the happily married MC2 Peter (or rather a version similar to him)

Could be. I have gotten the impression that Marvel's official stance is that the "real" Spider-Man can't be married, but "non-canon" versions or "What ifs?" are okay.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I think some of the people in those posistions disagreed with Quesada on some things related to the execution of OMD. Tom Brevoort is of the opinion MJ was still pregnant during The Clone Saga, but Quesada's One Moment In Time story establishes otherwise.

Interesting.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Quesada in a rare interview last year insisted removing the marriage was the 'right thing' to do...though this is the same Quesada who actually produced a variant cover for the last issue of Slott's Renew Your Vows.

Well, a job is a job. (I have to admit that him doing a cover for that series seemed a little in bad taste to me, but I think I was being overly sensitive.)

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Axel Alonzo, now the EIC, was the man in charge of the Spider-line when OMD went down, so maybe he has a lot to do with the recent Mephisto references, perhaps he feels like some of us do that the time travel retcon is perhaps a little too damaging to long-term investment and it's probably better they reveal it was a mind-wipe job, that allows Quesada's story to stand, but allows Brevoort's opinion to become factual and it does'nt create this idea that post-OMD canon does'nt "count"

Could be. However, from where I stand, I think's it too little, too late. Besides, for most people who don't like OMD, it's the story and retcon itself that are the offensive part, not the details. For me, even if it was changed to mind-wipe, not time travel, that wouldn't make things any better, IMHO.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Yes, there is that possibility we've going to enter a vicious cycle with generations of fans...there will be people who have spent their entire young life beleiving Peter and MJ have always been at odds and that Gwen Stacy was always a Web Warrior (something the new cartoon won't be helping with), or that Peter never worked for Jameson and went straight to Horizon. There's always that danger, but that's probably why Marvel are reprinting The Wedding saga this year..to inform that generation (or to inform people new to Renew Your Vows, take your pick)

The irony that I, as someone who oppose OMD, am pretty much coming from the same place that Quesada and others were when they created OMD in the first place isn't lost on me. Not to mention if they did undo OMD, I'd probably be using much of the same arguments that have been brought out to defend OMD, as well.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I read that they plan to at least illustrate a couple of pages of the first issue...but whether that means commisioning a pro to do it or not is up to them. I don't really like the front covers they come up with themselves, they'd be much better off just using established artwork and make use of some clever photoshopping until they can get a pro in.

Yeah, I do understand that having artwork would be really hard, but maybe a few pictures (like in a kid's storybook) would be nice. Agreed that the front covers aren't all that.