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Old 02-19-2017, 03:29 PM   #161
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Hey dum-dum, you realize that the movie technically hasn't even come out yet? I'm not saying the critics are wrong, I'm saying that maybe hyperbole should be reserved until more people are able to have their say.
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:31 PM   #162
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Even so, when you have 57 reviews counted so far with a fresh rating of 97%, you know most of the general public will like it too.

Look at Batman/Superman having a 27% rotten rating on the site, and a lot of fans didn't like it. I thought it was ok though.
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Old 02-19-2017, 05:24 PM   #163
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I'd enjoy seeing him again. But "Liev Schreiber back as Sabertooth!" hardly seems the "Holy Sh*t!" thing they're saving it out to be.

He's probably metal hand dude's secret weapon against Logan/X-23. So far no villain we've seen in the movie trailers appear that they'd be able to go one-on-one with Wolverine (though I bet metal hand dude's hand is made of adamantium... I can just see him catching Wolverine's claws in a scene) and I can't imagine that they leave it like that.

The twist, I bet, is that Sabertooth double-crosses metal hand man, uniting with Wolvie against him and his cronies.
I hope so. The movie looks kinda boring just to have Wolverine fight normal soldiers and whatnot. Metalhand man does not impress me, neither do Reavers.
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Old 02-23-2017, 08:43 AM   #164
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This movie is reviewing very well everywhere, what do you guys think Fox will do with Wolverine now? Do you think they will throw some $$$$$ Hughs way, to try and make him stay on? recast? or rest the character for now?
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:56 AM   #165
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I think Jackman has enough respect for the character to stay away from returning to the franchise. Maybe ten or twenty years from now he'll have some sort of fun cameo role but he's done as Wolverine.
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Old 02-23-2017, 11:59 AM   #166
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Hugh Jackman Would Keep Playing Wolverine If The X-Men Were Part Of The Marvel Cinematic Universe
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:00 PM   #167
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Hot damn, rottentomatoes is now a 97%

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/logan_2017/

Is this one of the highest rated superhero/comic book movies of all time? I'm too lazy to check, what did the first two Nolan Batman films get on rottentomatoes?
No clue why you're taking Rotten Tomatoes' ratings as the end all be all of online movie rating systems.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:10 PM   #168
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No clue why you're taking Rotten Tomatoes' ratings as the end all be all of online movie rating systems.
Because the site generally averages all the top movie critics and combines it together. Of course it's not the end of all ratings people can have for a movie, but it still gives you a good idea if movies are good or not.
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Old 02-24-2017, 07:38 PM   #169
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Sir Patrick Stewart is retiring from the role of Professor X in solidarity with Hugh Jackman leaving that of Logan.

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Old 02-24-2017, 09:11 PM   #170
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Sir Patrick Stewart is retiring from the role of Professor X in solidarity with Hugh Jackman leaving that of Logan.



https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men...t-time-a149211
Meaningless. It's not like anybody was planning to do a Halle Berry and Scott Marsden movie or anything.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:19 PM   #171
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Well Patrick Stewart continuing this long after X3 in 2006 was surprising in itself. He deserves a much needed rest from the character.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:27 PM   #172
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Meaningless. It's not like anybody was planning to do a Halle Berry and Scott Marsden movie or anything.
Thank GOD.

Halle Berry and James Marsden are the WORST.
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:54 PM   #173
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Now if Stewart can just be in a proper TNG sendoff movie or project, I'd be happy.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:04 PM   #174
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Now if Stewart can just be in a proper TNG sendoff movie or project, I'd be happy.
We absolutely need a 25th century Star Trek show with an Admiral/Ambassador Picard sendoff, not this Discovery drivel.

Sigh.

Read the novels from Pocket Books, they've done some AMAZING things for relaunching the 24th century shows. Next Generation, DS9, Voyager, and even Star Trek Titan.
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Did any of those books reveal if Data kept his well...memory? When they transfered his mind to the new Data robot after he died?

I don't even remember what happened anymore.
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Old 02-25-2017, 03:52 AM   #176
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Did any of those books reveal if Data kept his well...memory? When they transfered his mind to the new Data robot after he died?

I don't even remember what happened anymore.
Star Trek: Online seems to answer that, from what I understand (yes, he does). I think he even captains the Enterprise-F.
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I don't really like the new younger cast of the X-men movies, I think with the original actors leaving the roles, it's time to stop making these dreadful movies.
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Old 02-25-2017, 12:47 PM   #178
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Did any of those books reveal if Data kept his well...memory? When they transfered his mind to the new Data robot after he died?

I don't even remember what happened anymore.
Yes, there is an epic trilogy "Cold Equations" that directly deals with Data's long overdue resurrection, his creator Noonien Soong, and other interesting elements. Another great read (which is a direct prequel to many of the trilogy's elements) is "Immortal Coil." Then a follow-up novel "The Light Fantastic" brings back Lal and examines Data as a father.

Some other fantastic things the various relaunch novels have done are:
  • Odo sends a Jem'Hadar named Taran'atar to DS9 as a cultural observer (Taran'atar is my favorite main character ever)
  • A full-scale decisive war between the Alpha Quadrant and the Borg Collective
  • A follow-up to the Romulan government's fallout from "Nemesis"
  • Doctor Bashir goes to work for Section 31, hoping to destroy it from within
  • Captain Riker leads the crew of the USS Titan
  • Ro Laren joins the senior staff of Deep Space 9
  • Captain Picard and Doctor Crusher finally resolve their romantic relationship
  • Garak takes a high-ranking public role in the rebuilding of Cardassia
  • Chakotay is promoted to Captain of the USS Voyager, Tom Paris as his first officer
  • The USS Voyager is sent back to explore the Delta Quadrant and verify that the Borg have been truly eradicated
  • The status of B'Elanna Torres' daughter Miral and her role in Klingon prophecy is revealed
  • And, in the 22nd century, the Romulan Star Empire goes to war with Earth, Vulcan, Tellar, and Andor
  • In the immediate fallout of the Romulan War, the Federation is formed and the Enterprise crew take a prominent role in the first steps of this galactic union
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In 2029, Logan, who has aged greatly when his healing factor began to falter over the years, spends his days working as a chauffeur and hustling for prescription drugs in Texas. He and Caliban live in an abandoned farm across the border in Mexico, where they care for a senile Charles Xavier, who had inadvertently killed several of his X-Men in a seizure-induced psychic attack one year earlier. Logan is approached by Gabriela, a nurse for Transigen who asks him to escort her and an 11-year-old girl named Laura to a place in North Dakota called "Eden". After reluctantly accepting the job, Logan discovers that Gabriela has been murdered and he, Xavier, and Laura narrowly escape from Donald Pierce and the Reavers while Caliban is captured and ordered to use his mutant powers to track them. Logan and Xavier learn through a video on Gabriela's phone that Transigen was breeding children with DNA samples from several mutants, but upon completion of the "X-24" project, the children were to be put to death. Gabriela helped several children escape from the Transigen compound before smuggling Laura across the border. Furhermore, Laura is revealed to be Logan's "daughter", as she was bred with his DNA.

While staying in Oklahoma City, Logan develops skepticism over the location of Eden, as he discovers it being referenced in an X-Men comic book that Laura brought with her. The Reavers find their whereabouts, but Xavier suffers another seizure and freezes everyone at the hotel with a psychic blast. Logan injects Xavier with a suppressant before they leave the city. The trio are given shelter by a family after helping them round up their horses during a highway incident. That night, Xavier and the family are killed by X-24, a perfect clone of Logan, who then shackles Laura and heads to the Reavers' van. Caliban grabs two grenades and sets them off, killing himself and destroying the van while Logan and Laura once again escape. After burying Xavier, Logan reluctantly follows Laura's orders to take her to Eden. They arrive at Eden, which is a safe haven run by Rictor and former Transigen test subjects. There, Logan learns that the children will make an eight mile journey across the forest to the Canadian border, but they are quickly captured by the Reavers. Using a mutant serum given to him by Rictor, a re-energized Logan plows through the Reavers, but the serum wears off quickly before he meets Zander Rice, the head of the Transigen project who sought to avenge his father's death during the Weapon X program. Logan kills Rice while the children overwhelm Pierce with their powers, but he is outmatched by X-24. He is impaled through a tree during the fight, but Laura shoots X-24 in the head with an Adamantium bullet, which Logan had kept with him for years. After Logan succumbs to his wounds, Laura and the children bury him before continuing their journey across the border.

No Sabertooth appearance. No real big surprises at all.
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I've just come back from seeing it

It's a pretty good movie...not the "Dark Knight level masterpiece" all the overexaggerative types on RT, Youtube, and Cubed in particular are calling it, but it's a sound enough time-filler with some interesting takes on a few things.

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First off, while that first half of the film with Logan, Laura and Xavier is a joy to watch...the problem lies in the fact you've seen virtually all of the best bits in the trailers and tv spots, so if you haven't seen them...avoid them. The bits I did'nt see explored in those spots were stuff I really wanted to see a lot more of. More of Xavier struggling in the giant mental shed they'd created for him and suffering with his powers and seizures, all of which really don't play as big a part in shaping his character after we're reintroduced to him in this state...and after a nifty sequence in the hotel siege, the magnfitude of the psychic seizers don't have a big part outside of the two scenes they're in

I wanted to see more of Wolvie haunted and getting involved in picking up all manners of characters, I wanted more of Caliban interacting with him too, they're seperated not long into the movie and never reunite, with Caliban sacrificing himself and setting off an explosion.

The second act turned out to be my favourite spot when I thought it would be a concern, I enjoyed the quiet family dinner, Logan helping out with the water pipes and scaring away the land sharks, and Xavier's confession to 'Logan' just before...damn. When you get to the final act, I really wish Charles had the chance to meet the other children, it would have reignited his dream one more time.

The 'twist' with Hugh playing an evil clone (X-24) is a good one. but again, not a lot of emphasis is placed on the hows and whys of this character, he's mainly muscle for Richard E Grant and does'nt get to do a whole lot other than deal Logan his final crushing blows, and then he's taken out by an adiantium bullet after a single gunshot fired by Laura. Logan, while certaingly on fine form for most of the third act, sort of goes out with a whimper. A simple berzerker rage and killing the clone himself would have sufficed, but...nah, "saved" just before he dies by a girl with the very thing he hates...a gun, which I guess is a thing of ironic beutey in the movie I ought to appreciate more...but I don't.
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