Batman and Harley

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

(which these movies don't do anymore because they cater to all the edgelord pervy grown-ups who were kids in their hey-day)

That's another factor I was considering. Throwing sex into a film gives it an easy PG-13, which I guess WB thinks moves units. It satisfies whatever Timm's current fantasy is and it fulfills a certain desire for "edgy stuff" on the part of fanboys in their 30s.

[CyberCubed]

Why would 30 year old adults even want to see bizarre sexual relationships between the main characters and Barbara, Harley, Catwoman, Ivy, etc......basically any female character.

I mean this is the last thing I watch DC cartoons for.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Artists are huge pervs, dude.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by DestronMirage22

So there's gonna be a Nightwing/Harley romance subplot? Wasn't he a little kid when she was like 25? That's creepy AF.

Harley was no older than 30 at the time of her debut episode. Dick was about 20 when the series started, no younger than 19.

[CyberCubed]

Harley was probably in her mid-20's. That would have given her enough time to graduate with a PHd as a psychiatrist and then start working in Arkham.

[sdp]

So, it's basically confirmed this is a new DCAU entry, I don't know why there isn't more hype, sure it isn't an epic adventure and pretty much a remake of a BTAS episode with harley but it's still awesome.


The Babs/Bruce relationship is also awesome for the very basic fact that what upsets people is what makes it great. It's indeed wrong and that's why you can believe it happened.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by sdp

So, it's basically confirmed this is a new DCAU entry, I don't know why there isn't more hype, sure it isn't an epic adventure and pretty much a remake of a BTAS episode with harley but it's still awesome.


The Babs/Bruce relationship is also awesome for the very basic fact that what upsets people is what makes it great. It's indeed wrong and that's why you can believe it happened.

one reason there isn't much hype is people are upset that Tara Strong isn't voicing Harley they just picked some random chick instead of Tara or someone else who has actually voiced Harley in some form of batman media.

[oldmanwinters]

I assumed they'd bring back Arleen Sorkin to voice Quinn. Is she retired or something?

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I assumed they'd bring back Arleen Sorkin to voice Quinn. Is she retired or something?

she retired after doing Harley for Arkham Asylum than she passed the role to Tara Strong

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by sdp

So, it's basically confirmed this is a new DCAU entry, I don't know why there isn't more hype, sure it isn't an epic adventure and pretty much a remake of a BTAS episode with harley but it's still awesome..

It's not part of the DCAU or old continuity. As said it has nothing to do with it, probably just have some nods and references for fans but it's not canon with the show and is its own thing

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by sdp

So, it's basically confirmed this is a new DCAU entry, I don't know why there isn't more hype

Because people can tire of nostalgia acts.

[CyberCubed]

The DCAU ended in 2006. It's now over 10 years later in 2017, I doubt the young kids of today even watched a single episode of it.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Justice League is on Netflix now and is apparently popular - so I think kids today are familiar with it.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The DCAU ended in 2006. It's now over 10 years later in 2017, I doubt the young kids of today even watched a single episode of it.
It's not part of the DCAU or old continuity. As said it has nothing to do with it, probably just have some nods and references for fans but it's not canon with the show and is its own thing

Kids watch old cartoons really easily now, it isn't like in the past that once a show left the air it was gone forever.

It sure seems to be part of the DCAU, did you not see the featurette posted here. Why else do you think they went back to the original voice actors they could get and the art style, only modernizing Nightwing's. It isn't a huge story set in it but it's a story set in it.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Because people can tire of nostalgia acts.

ummm...most of the franchises you like are literally nostalgia acts. That's not attacking you, It's the same for me but come on.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by sdp

Why else do you think they went back to the original voice actors they could get and the art style, only modernizing Nightwing's.

Kevin Conroy has been the voice of Batman for years even after the DCAU. And Bruce Timm's style has been in a couple films that weren't part of the DCAU. Both aspects are essentially tradition by now.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by sdp

ummm...most of the franchises you like are literally nostalgia acts..

I have time for concurrent stuff as well.

[CyberCubed]

sdp you do realize Kevin Conroy has returned for many of these DTV movies, right? He was just recently in Killing Joke, and before that he was in at least 5 of them, probably more.

They seem to alternate between using Conroy and the new Batman voice actors now.

[sdp]

I know but that's only one thing, this movie is clearly using the TNBA designs for every character and VAs. in the featurette they basically mention that it's a new BTAS but not one for kids and how they're returning to it after so many years because so many people grew up with it.

This isn't a case like Braniac attacks that in order to save money they re-used the Superman TAS designs. Why would they go back to this older style if not for pure nostalgia from DCAU fans going back to their universe? They've used more than one art style in the DC films before. I'm not even that excited for this movie, DC kind of killed my interest in their DTVs over the years but this is clearly meant to be a new DCAU film, just not what people actually wanted.

[CyberCubed]

I don't think this is in continuity or they would have promoted it saying, "The first return to the DCAU in 10 years!"

It would have been a big marketing deal to get people to buy this movie who don't follow their releases usually. I doubt it.

[Coola Yagami]

It could be whatever it wants to be, who really cares?

Are they really going for a Nightwing/Harley romantic/lustful subplot or is this just Cubed overreacting and blindly assuming things?

Just because they screwed up The Killing Joke doesn't mean every new movie from now on is going to have some random sex scene tossed in there. Noone complained about Harley screwing Deadshot in the Assault from Arkham movie.