E3 Twenty-Seventeen

[sdp]

I do believe it's going to be a "mainline" Pokemon game, I'm just saying until we see what it is we don't really know for sure what it will be. As I mentioned depending on release date would confirm if it's Gen 7 or 8 but I wouldn't be surprised if it was an RPG but not a mainline game.

Let's not forget that the only time something similar happened was during the beginning of the DS' life and it was selling poorly in which they stepped in and mentioned the next generation of Pokemon games would not be for game boy but for the DS. Most people forget the super long"Road to Diamond and Pearl" that we had before they ever showed anything from it.

Originally Posted by Cure

OK. Show me one example of a marketing campaign that used the word "core" to explain something not-core. Show me the precedent to back your line of thinking.

Can you show me an example where Nintendo or The Pokemon Company used the term "core".

I do remember specifically that Colosseum was marketed as a console RPG Pokemon game which was true but it wasn't a mainline game, they even did the whole "you visit a new region", "you will see new shadow Pokemon" etc. People were fairly upset when it ended up being Stadium with a quasi-RPG game, which btw I liked.

Companies use vague terms to get people excited or dismiss a problem. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole announcement was only made after the backlash that they received after Ultra Sun/Moon were announced, Nintendo did the same thing in a previous E3 were they blew it and later had to reveal that they were working on Zelda during an interview or meeting with Miyamoto which eventually became Skyward Sword.

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

There's a massive difference between EoL and dead. Dead is Wii U and Vita. They are receiving zero first party support in the way of games, and almost nothing in third except indie titles that take nothing more than a stability check from them. Nintendo is still supporting 3DS with a handful of titles as noted and it doesn't matter if they're remakes or ports or what... they're still supporting it. The Metroid remake is even getting Amiibos.

Amiibos were made for the Wii U and that was pretty much dead, because they sold regardless of what they were meant for.

You're right the 3DS isn't officially dead, but Nintendo has tried to market it as if it still were a relevant system where it's pretty much been at the "end of life" for a while now, Sun and Moon were the last big hoorah it'll ever get. There is indeed a difference in the type of support it gets, and Wii / Wii U ports and remakes shows that they don't really have much intention than to please the current fanbase.

If they really wanted to keep the 3DS alive we would've seen some big announcements for 3DS or new 3DS exclusive/enhanced games, especially with the new 2DS coming out.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by sdp

Can you show me an example where Nintendo or The Pokemon Company used the term "core".

Right, what I thought. What a dumb and awful counter argument. Anyway, I'm out. People like you are the worst to talk to.

[sdp]

Throwing a fit and saying "you're out" doesn't make you right you know. I think I explained pretty well in my posts what I meant and you chose to ignore. And yeah I can't there's no example because I can't find any example where a "core" game being used by either Nintendo or GameFreak/TPC, they don't use these terms like this but obviously I'm "retarded" for suggesting that it could be ambiguous.

[CyberCubed]

Well now that E3 is over, games I'm looking forward to:

Switch/3DS games:

Mario Odyssey
ARMS
Mario/Rabbids (maybe if it gets good reviews)
Metroid II remake
Metroid Prime 4
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga remake for 3DS
Hey, Pikmin

PS4 games:

Uncharted: Lost Legacy
God of War
Spiderman
Days Gone
The Evil Within 2
Crash Bandicoot remaster
Shadow of the Collossus remake


Games in the "maybe" pile that I might get if they get good reviews or I have spare time to play them:

Star Wars Battlefront 2
Assassin's Creed Origins
Wolfenstein


And...that's it for the time being. I might wind up getting all these eventually anyway due to sales.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by sdp

Throwing a fit and saying "you're out" doesn't make you right you know. I think I explained pretty well in my posts what I meant and you chose to ignore. And yeah I can't there's no example because I can't find any example where a "core" game being used by either Nintendo or GameFreak/TPC, they don't use these terms like this but obviously I'm "retarded" for suggesting that it could be ambiguous.

No, if anything, it's because you don't understand the basic concept of word definitions.

In the next Nintendo Direct, Reggie is going to say "juxtaposition" and you'll pretend the meaning is ambiguous because you've never heard him say it before.

The meaning of what he said is pretty cut-and-dry and nobody else is questioning what he meant.

[TigerClaw]

I was amused when I found out there's a character in ARMS name Ninjara, a TMNT character from the Archie Comics was also name Ninjara, heheh.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by sdp

I can't there's no example because I can't find any example where a "core" game being used by either Nintendo or GameFreak/TPC.

I'm actually wondering if you tried, at this point. It took me probably 20 seconds or less to find the first example:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/02/...-master-speaks

IGN: Why have you never made a Pokemon game for Nintendo's home consoles? Would you consider doing a Game Freak main-series Pokemon game on the Wii?

Junichi Masuda: I don't think so. I think the Pokemon core series is always going to be with handheld hardware, in the future as well

https://web.archive.org/web/20131008...ew-2013-10-04/

There have been a lot of Pokémon games that have shown the Pokémon in 3D, but they represent a different visual style. With regard to how they appear in the core games, we pay attention to the 2D thickness of the character outlines and the shading, for example, to make it appear more like Mr. Sugimori’s art. We think this attracts all kinds of players.

https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/inter.../pokemonxy/0/1

Iwata: But until now, the core series titles have been colors, like Pokémon Red Version and Pokémon Blue Version, or gems like Pokémon Ruby Version and Pokémon Sapphire Version