Star Trek: Discovery

[Spike Spiegel]

Are they supposed to be making some kind of statement by naming the female protagonist "Michael"? Isn't that a typically male name?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Are they supposed to be making some kind of statement by naming the female protagonist "Michael"? Isn't that a typically male name?

Oh, probably.

[CyberCubed]

“Wilson Cruz will be playing my love interest, my partner ― my man love ― and we’re both officers on the ship,” he said during the panel.

Although the Sulu character in the 2016 movie “Star Trek Beyond” is gay, Rapp’s character is the first openly gay main character on a “Star Trek” TV series.

He said: “And I’m very proud of that. And he’s a scientist!”

I never understood why they have to announce gay relationships in a show in a press release. You don't see them announcing heterosexual relationships in a show in press release.

Especially in a series like Star Trek. This is like the last thing on anyones mind for a new Star Trek show.

[Vegita-San]

can't do anything in hollywood without making a statement these days.

[Andrew NDB]

Ugh. What COULD have been:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/more-det...rs-trek-plans/

“Fuller sat with CBS executives to deliver his pitch. It wasn’t just for a ‘Trek’ series but for multiple serialized anthology shows that would begin with the ‘Discovery’ prequel, journey through the eras of Captain James T. Kirk and Captain Jean-Luc Picard, and then go beyond to a time in ‘Trek’ that’s never been seen before.”

An anthology series ala "American Horror Story," each season set in different parts of the timeline. F**k! That would have been great!

[Spike Spiegel]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Ugh. What COULD have been:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/more-det...rs-trek-plans/

“Fuller sat with CBS executives to deliver his pitch. It wasn’t just for a ‘Trek’ series but for multiple serialized anthology shows that would begin with the ‘Discovery’ prequel, journey through the eras of Captain James T. Kirk and Captain Jean-Luc Picard, and then go beyond to a time in ‘Trek’ that’s never been seen before.”

An anthology series ala "American Horror Story," each season set in different parts of the timeline. F**k! That would have been great!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Ugh. What COULD have been:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/more-det...rs-trek-plans/

“Fuller sat with CBS executives to deliver his pitch. It wasn’t just for a ‘Trek’ series but for multiple serialized anthology shows that would begin with the ‘Discovery’ prequel, journey through the eras of Captain James T. Kirk and Captain Jean-Luc Picard, and then go beyond to a time in ‘Trek’ that’s never been seen before.”

An anthology series ala "American Horror Story," each season set in different parts of the timeline. F**k! That would have been great!

THAT was a perfect pitch. Not 100% what I wanted, but far closer and much more accessible.

But no, let's do the Abrams Trek sequel / Original Series prequel...

[Vegita-San]

it's pretty clear NO ONE cares about a older property anymore.


it's all about how you can re invent it in the hopes a modern audience will catch on and spend the next 50 years with it. once you hit 40, your opinion on an older property no longer matters to those in charge.

it's pretty clear them saying 'this is in the prime timeline' was just bait to get us interested. and darned if it didn't work. until images started coming out and people realized the bait and switch. then all the problems.

i'd still be amazed if this thing makes it past three episodes.

[Andrew NDB]

And then this fails, CBS/Paramount goes, "Huh. I guess nobody likes Trek on TV anymore. *shrug* The new adventures of Kirk and Spock in about 8 more years, then."

[CyberCubed]

I can't say I blame them though, Voyager and Enterprise got a lot of dislike from fans when they were originally airing, even if it wasn't warranted and they had some good episodes. I think people just got sick of Star Trek around then since it had been airing continuously with 4 series in a row.

So now everything is nostalgia based. They're probably too scared to do something new.

[Vegita-San]

yep. same old story. never an execs fault. and it's pretty clear moonves doesn't know a thing about star trek....

one reason why i've about given up on modern hollywood. i only check out a few movies a year now, and buy even less blue-rays unless it's a movie I REALLY like. if i want to see something again that I was so so on, i'll rent it on Amazon...

def saves up on clutter space.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And then this fails, CBS/Paramount goes, "Huh. I guess nobody likes Trek on TV anymore. *shrug* The new adventures of Kirk and Spock in about 8 more years, then."

Nah, next time they'll reboot Picard and Data. Bet ya.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I can't say I blame them though, Voyager and Enterprise got a lot of dislike from fans when they were originally airing, even if it wasn't warranted and they had some good episodes. I think people just got sick of Star Trek around then since it had been airing continuously with 4 series in a row.

None of that is supported in the ratings, though. Even the end of Enterprise was strong. That's a popular misconception... it was just too expensive, vs. your average cheap UPN sitcom of the time.

[newfan]

There was too much Star Trek all at once, I remember thinking that at the time. I think that was why I never watched a couple of them much, the intro song put me off enterprise! however, years later I did watch enterprise and did get into it... but would still forward the intro.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by newfan

There was too much Star Trek all at once, I remember thinking that at the time. I think that was why I never watched a couple of them much, the intro song put me off enterprise! however, years later I did watch enterprise and did get into it... but would still forward the intro.

I hated the ENT intro song for about 4 episodes... then I rather loved it. I dislike how they screwed it up in season 4.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I hated the ENT intro song for about 4 episodes... then I rather loved it. I dislike how they screwed it up in season 4.

Oh, I think due to forwarding I didn't notice they changed it much.

[Andrew NDB]

http://comicbook.com/startrek/2017/0...-discovery-in/

The timeline is... confirmed again? Dumb article. We knew this like 2 years ago.

Also:

http://www.slashfilm.com/bryan-fulle...very-klingons/

"The other Bryan Fuller contribution that remains is his redesign of the Klingons. “One of the things he really, really wanted to do was shake up the design of the Klingons,” Herberts said. “One of the first things that he ever pitched to us when we were deciding whether or not to come on the show was his aesthetic for the Klingons and how important it was that they be aesthete, that they not be the thugs of the universe, that they be sexy and vital and different from what had come before.”"

So why use them at all?

[Vegita-San]

i'm confused.

wasn't bryan fuller the die hard trek fan who got replaced? or was that someone else? Why would he want to radically redesign the klingons? doesn't seem like something a die hard fan would do, unless they are trying to throw him under the bus..

[Vegita-San]

why does this sound so terrible?

why does the female lead have a guys name?

wh..wh...wh...oh i can't bother to care anymore..

[Vegita-San]

http://epicstream.com/news/New-Star-...Hard-Trek-Fans


arrogant idiot helps sinks show even further. This thing is so unlike star trek, you better hope fans will bother to tune into the pilot at all.