Does Nickelodeon hate us?

[snake]

It's nowhere near as bad as people say it is.

That being said, it's pretty bad.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Probably the same as always. Everyone will swear it's the best movie ever for 2, 3 weeks and then the slow realization that it's sh*t will dawn on them.

it's ok that people like the new stuff... i just happen to think they are so used to crap, they don't realize true GREAT stuff when they see it.

studios don't have to try anymore.

it's all just recycled at this point..

[CyberCubed]

We're literally living in a golden age of superhero and sci-fi movies. You people aren't watching anything.

[snake]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

We're literally living in a golden age of superhero and sci-fi movies. You people aren't watching anything.

Quality>Quantity

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

We're literally living in a golden age of superhero and sci-fi movies. You people aren't watching anything.

Totally explains why we're getting quality television shows for superheroes. Movies are subjective.

[CyberCubed]

The 90's and 80's barely had any good superhero movies aside from like...3-4.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I think this one will be very good. Star Wars has great track record with middle films, they're usually the best.

If only Mark Hamil would get off his ''sequels are treating my character like crap'' soapbox. I don't know if it's just method or not though

[Vegita-San]

well, they really are. no ones evolved since the last films and some have degraded.

they should be ruling the galaxy at this point. not doing the same crap.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The 90's and 80's barely had any good superhero movies aside from like...3-4.

The superhero film boom didn't start until around 2000. If characters like Batman and the TMNT are superheroes or not is also a question.

[eskater]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

True, but well... here's the thing. You can be upset about a current incarnation of a thing that is selling itself short, populating said low-balled idea of a thing whose potential you wholly realize, even if you're not remotely the targeted audience.

Because guess what happens next? You get a generation of people growing up thinking that's the real deal. It's not.

It's a little like... World War I veterans, if they had the clairvoyance to know WWII was coming, because we were there and knew what to do and what not to do, what worked and didn't work, even if the technology is a little different.

I take it this sentiment comes a lot from the FW cartoon. Totally understandable, after I discovered the comics I realized a lot of people in my age group and around it barely know anything about the comics and it can be kinda weird talking to them about better versions of the turtles since they hold the FW cartoon in such high regard.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by Bry

I'd be very okay with that. Sometimes it's good for a franchise to take a break for a while. The media market is oversaturated right now, and every corporation is trying to milk every property they own for constant, endless content. Sometimes these properties just kinda... burn out. Better to let them cool off for a while before the next cycle, IMO.

Eh, maybe I overreacted just a bit when I did that.

The point I did want to make is there are several Viacom properties that have been on the shelf for some time. They could definitely benefit from getting the exposure that TMNT as of late. Although I do feel the content should be accessible and, depending on who you're aiming for, entertaining.

As for TMNT, I do agree that it's nearing a point we may need another hiatus for the franchise. Personally, I'm okay with it. It did happen before I was born from Next Mutation up to the release of 2k3 Turtles for a few years. Otherwise, it's going to reach oversaturation, especially as the new cartoon (Rise) is either immediately after the Nick show ends or a few months after. It could definitely reach oversaturation.

Going off topic, but I do feel it's happening with the MCU. It just becomes the same to me after a while. Though I have fun watching them, it does become tiring.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by eskater

I take it this sentiment comes a lot from the FW cartoon. Totally understandable, after I discovered the comics I realized a lot of people in my age group and around it barely know anything about the comics and it can be kinda weird talking to them about better versions of the turtles since they hold the FW cartoon in such high regard.

The story of my life.

[CyberCubed]

That's the same with any comic book franchise. In terms of Batman your average person still thinks Dick Grayson is Robin. You tell them there's been 4 Robin's and they'll stare at you dumbfounded.

You go to your average person and tell them Mile Morales is Spiderman, they'll ask you, "Who the hell is that, Spiderman is Peter Parker!"

You think your average person knows anything that goes on in DC or Marvel comics? I think some of you easily forget how "obscure" comic books are. They're far below movies, TV shows, cartoons or videogames.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You go to your average person and tell them Mile Morales is Spiderman, they'll ask you, "Who the hell is that, Spiderman is Peter Parker!"

Huh, that boring character might fade into obscurity sooner than I thought then...

[CyberCubed]

It's the same bizarre thing as Star Wars fans being upset the whole expanded universe from the comics was rendered non-canon when Disney bought the license. Your average person has no idea what happened in Star Wars comics, that Luke and Han/Leia have had kids or all these new characters or that the Emperor returned as a clone or other nonsense.

They made new Star Wars movies and the comics are irrelevant. Even the new current comics by Marvel don't really impact the movies at all, so to your average person they may as well not exists.

Comic books haven't been big since the 80's.

[eskater]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Huh, that boring character might fade into obscurity sooner than I thought then...

I actually enjoy Miles Morales as Spiderman right now in the comics than I do Peter Parker honestly. I'm more into Peter's clones right now anyway....especially Kane.

[ZariusTwo]

The Renew Your Vows Peter Parker should be the actual Peter Parker.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by eskater

I actually enjoy Miles Morales as Spiderman right now in the comics than I do Peter Parker honestly. I'm more into Peter's clones right now anyway....especially Kane.

I haven't really read Peter since shortly after Superior ended, I don't really find the "Parker Industries" angle very interesting. It looks like they're winding that aspect down now, so I might pick up a used trade when it's over, see if it was any good. With Peter there's so much to read I prefer reading older stories I haven't gotten to before, more or less the same attitude I have to most "big" Marvel/DC books.

I did read Kaine's title until it was cancelled, shame too, I actually thought it was pretty decent. Same with Venom, the Flash one before he joined the Guardians. I'm trying to get into Venom now that Eddie is back, let's see how that goes.

As for Miles... I read his original series, it was so boring. I did not find Miles interesting on his own, he didn't seem to bring anything new to Spider-Man and the story felt like it took forever to get anywhere. From what I can tell, none of this has really changed, he's just been moved to the main universe and pretends like he always belonged there.

[CyberCubed]

Miles Morales is just spanish/black Peter, that's it.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Miles Morales is just spanish/black Peter, that's it.

Yeah, more or less. There's nothing wrong with him being spanish/black but he needs actual character traits or some conceptual differences to be worth reading, otherwise I might as well just read the original USM run.