RIAA sues 12-year-old girl - Page 2

*Voltron* · 09-15-2003, 12:57 PM

The RIAA is a bunch of assholes. If anything, we should be suing them for charging so much for cds. I never buy cds! I can't afford them! Look what this has come to! Poor 12-year-olds are being sued for sitting on a computer listening to something!

Look, if you get sued, just say you were sharing the music with your friends nation wide. The media always tells us to share, now then they sue us for it. I'm going to sue Business for being elitist ****s, then with all their money in my pocket, I buy an army and hunt down their families and kill them like the dogs they are. I mean. Love, peace, woo...

Peanut · 09-15-2003, 12:57 PM

It's great to live in Canada. They can't do squat! They made a law about it just before the whole Napster thing started up!

*Voltron* · 09-15-2003, 01:00 PM

Canada is a paradise...

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 09-15-2003, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseTechie

Is it just Kazaa that RIAA is going through?

I switched to iMesh after word of that first went out. Then used Ad Aware to delete any spy cams lurking about in our hard drive.

What's Ad Aware?

**GK Punk** · 09-15-2003, 02:26 PM

HT:

They plan to go after "all" File Sharing Software, eventually. I Just keep using K-Lite (It blocks the RIAA) With Peer Gaurdian (Blocks anyother IPs, it's like a fire wall for File Sharing) Then I disable Sharing of my MP3s. I just leave Wrestling matches in my shared folder now days. (Although, I guess that could piss off WWE/WCW Inc, but Meh)

Tetsu:

Ad-Aware searches your hard drive and registry for programs installed on your computer with out your knowledge, such as Gator, Cydoor etc.

*That Matt Guy* · 09-15-2003, 02:38 PM

I just downloaded that Ad Aware program and scanned my comp, it found like 340 things. Assholes.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 09-15-2003, 02:41 PM

Where can I get this wonderful wonderful program called Ad Aware? (and K-Lite while we're at it.)

*That Matt Guy* · 09-15-2003, 02:43 PM

This is where I got it.

http://download.com.com/3000-2094-10...ml?legacy=cnet

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 09-15-2003, 02:46 PM

Thank you, kind sir.

*Cascadia* · 09-15-2003, 09:30 PM

it is illegal to download music off of the internet. When you download music from the Internet, you do not claim the copyright of that song-->copyright law. The RIAA can determine who is downloading music from the internet by looking at the records from that computer. It also slows down the internet speed. Even if you have a subscription service, it is still against the copyright laws of the music industry.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 09-15-2003, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scienctific freak

it is illegal to download music off of the internet. When you download music from the Internet, you do not claim the copyright of that song-->copyright law. The RIAA can determine who is downloading music from the internet by looking at the records from that computer. It also slows down the internet speed. Even if you have a subscription service, it is still against the copyright laws of the music industry.

So, what's your point?

*Cascadia* · 09-15-2003, 09:36 PM

I am just saying that no one should or can download music from the internet.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 09-15-2003, 10:07 PM

That's not for you to tell us.

*Cascadia* · 09-15-2003, 10:09 PM

why am I not able to state my opinion???

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 09-15-2003, 10:10 PM

Stating your opinion would be saying "I don't download music because I don't think it's right."

What you said was trying to tell us what we can and can't do!

*Cascadia* · 09-15-2003, 10:13 PM

I wanted to state what I believe and what is right.....I get jumped all -over. This is not right.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 09-15-2003, 10:15 PM

I'm not jumping all over you. I just don't like being told what to do.
I didn't say you couldn't say what you think is right. Just not to force it on us.
Sorry, if it came out that way.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 09-15-2003, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scienctific freak

I am just saying that no one should or can download music from the internet.

So, in other words:

1) Even if the source is legitimate, like free music off WinAmp.com, it's still illegal?

2) It's better to waste 20 bucks on maybe one or 2 songs off the album and nothing else than to keep your pockets full (and more of your personal space free for more important things) by downloading said few select songs?

There's logic for you...

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 09-16-2003, 02:18 AM

There's no need to be rude to her, Rez! She's as entitled to her beliefs as we are to ours (I don't like her trying to "convert" us however).

To me, it's not even a question of $20 CD because CD stores NEVER carry anything I listen to. They only carry the latest trendy crap! And, I don't like the latest trendy crap.

When you think of the way file-sharing is a big help to independant bands, and foreign music desparate for U.S. exposure. Many of which intentionally release their music on such programs. Not to mention, it's the ONLY way to get old music that's just plain out-of-print (and, therefore isn't making any more money anyway).

Of course, RIAA considers these to be enemies which might possibly be a motive for it's behavior. That kinda seems like monopolizing to me! And, I gotta say, I like the "Robin Hood" effect that file-sharing is having.

Since RIAA, has a very strict policy of retaining the copyrights to all songs thus screwing it's artists royally, many artists have spoken out against RIAA's actions. RIAA acknowledges this on their own website and claims they're "Biting the hand that feeds them"!

Still, many artists prefer their work not be downloaded, so if you feel better by not downloading than by all means feel free not to download (It's not like you need me to say that). And, go ahead and express it, but DON'T try to force us to be the same.

Billy the Kid · 09-18-2003, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TetsuDeinonychus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy the Kid

Yeah I heard about this and I think it's just ridiculous. While RIAA's Gestapo tactics may be legal, they certainly aren't going to win them any friends..

But rather than deal with the real issues of why wide spread file swapping is taking place, which is the high cost for crappy CD's, they would rather litigate their way out of this situation that they have brought upon themselves.

The Justice Department should begin a serious inquiry into price fixing by the industry. Unfortunately, the current AG is unlikely to order this.

I believe these tactics are going to backfire on RIAA and the recording industry, but only time will tell.

I hope these tactics DO backfire and Backfire HARD! I hope the RIAA execs suffer for what they're doing!!!
BTW I thought it WAS illeagal to hack someone's computer like that. Well, I guess you would know.

The RIAA must obtain court orders before they can hack into someone's computer. This is usually done during the discovery phase of the suit, when they are gathering evidence.

Also I have noticed that the RIAA is being very selective with whom they decide to sue, namely people who generally don't have the resources to fight back (such as students).

I imagine this is because they don't want someone counter suing them and performing some aggressive discovery of their own. No telling what skeletons are in the RIAA's closet.

09-15-2003, 02:41 PM	#27
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09-15-2003, 02:46 PM	#29
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09-15-2003, 09:30 PM	#30
Cascadia Oregonian in heart & soul Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,731	it is illegal to download music off of the internet. When you download music from the Internet, you do not claim the copyright of that song-->copyright law. The RIAA can determine who is downloading music from the internet by looking at the records from that computer. It also slows down the internet speed. Even if you have a subscription service, it is still against the copyright laws of the music industry. __________________ Formally known as Scientific freak

09-15-2003, 09:36 PM	#32
Cascadia Oregonian in heart & soul Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,731	I am just saying that no one should or can download music from the internet. __________________ Formally known as Scientific freak

09-15-2003, 10:07 PM	#33
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	That's not for you to tell us. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

09-15-2003, 12:57 PM	#21
Voltron Handsomest Boy in School Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Realm of SJW Posts: 4,642	The RIAA is a bunch of assholes. If anything, we should be suing them for charging so much for cds. I never buy cds! I can't afford them! Look what this has come to! Poor 12-year-olds are being sued for sitting on a computer listening to something! Look, if you get sued, just say you were sharing the music with your friends nation wide. The media always tells us to share, now then they sue us for it. I'm going to sue Business for being elitist ****s, then with all their money in my pocket, I buy an army and hunt down their families and kill them like the dogs they are. I mean. Love, peace, woo...

09-15-2003, 12:57 PM	#22
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	It's great to live in Canada. They can't do squat! They made a law about it just before the whole Napster thing started up!

09-15-2003, 01:00 PM	#23
Voltron Handsomest Boy in School Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Realm of SJW Posts: 4,642	Canada is a paradise...

09-15-2003, 02:26 PM	#25
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	HT: They plan to go after "all" File Sharing Software, eventually. I Just keep using K-Lite (It blocks the RIAA) With Peer Gaurdian (Blocks anyother IPs, it's like a fire wall for File Sharing) Then I disable Sharing of my MP3s. I just leave Wrestling matches in my shared folder now days. (Although, I guess that could piss off WWE/WCW Inc, but Meh) Tetsu: Ad-Aware searches your hard drive and registry for programs installed on your computer with out your knowledge, such as Gator, Cydoor etc.

09-15-2003, 02:38 PM	#26
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	I just downloaded that Ad Aware program and scanned my comp, it found like 340 things. Assholes.

09-15-2003, 02:43 PM	#28
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	This is where I got it. http://download.com.com/3000-2094-10...ml?legacy=cnet

09-15-2003, 10:09 PM	#34
Cascadia Oregonian in heart & soul Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,731	why am I not able to state my opinion??? __________________ Formally known as Scientific freak

09-15-2003, 10:10 PM	#35
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Stating your opinion would be saying "I don't download music because I don't think it's right." What you said was trying to tell us what we can and can't do! __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

09-15-2003, 10:13 PM	#36
Cascadia Oregonian in heart & soul Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,731	I wanted to state what I believe and what is right.....I get jumped all -over. This is not right. __________________ Formally known as Scientific freak

09-15-2003, 10:15 PM	#37
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	I'm not jumping all over you. I just don't like being told what to do. I didn't say you couldn't say what you think is right. Just not to force it on us. Sorry, if it came out that way. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

09-16-2003, 02:18 AM	#39
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	There's no need to be rude to her, Rez! She's as entitled to her beliefs as we are to ours (I don't like her trying to "convert" us however). To me, it's not even a question of $20 CD because CD stores NEVER carry anything I listen to. They only carry the latest trendy crap! And, I don't like the latest trendy crap. When you think of the way file-sharing is a big help to independant bands, and foreign music desparate for U.S. exposure. Many of which intentionally release their music on such programs. Not to mention, it's the ONLY way to get old music that's just plain out-of-print (and, therefore isn't making any more money anyway). Of course, RIAA considers these to be enemies which might possibly be a motive for it's behavior. That kinda seems like monopolizing to me! And, I gotta say, I like the "Robin Hood" effect that file-sharing is having. Since RIAA, has a very strict policy of retaining the copyrights to all songs thus screwing it's artists royally, many artists have spoken out against RIAA's actions. RIAA acknowledges this on their own website and claims they're "Biting the hand that feeds them"! Still, many artists prefer their work not be downloaded, so if you feel better by not downloading than by all means feel free not to download (It's not like you need me to say that). And, go ahead and express it, but DON'T try to force us to be the same. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!