Is there a "toxicity" in this fandom?

[Vegita-San]

just referring to the new types of posts one often sees in fandom these days. not specific to tmnt but it is elsewhere.

just more of the toxicity you see online these days.

[Spike Spiegel]

Every fandom is toxic to a degree.

What I've seen on this board is small potatoes compared to what's on Reddit, DeviantArt, and Tumblr. If anything, I think that the slightly antiquated quality that old style message boards have seems to weed out the really crazy people.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

If anything, I think that the slightly antiquated quality that old style message boards have seems to weed out the really crazy people.

True, maybe the advent of social media has helped that? At least for the rapid fire ones who might find message boards and their bigger discussions too much work and easier to block them.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

living embodiment of the toxicity

Am I the only one that immediately pictured the pink slime from Ghostbusters? lol

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

True, maybe the advent of social media has helped that? At least for the rapid fire ones who might find message boards and their bigger discussions too much work and easier to block them.



Am I the only one that immediately pictured the pink slime from Ghostbusters? lol

He might be.

To his credit, at least Cubed doesn't insult you too horribly. He just has trouble (or a stubborn refusal) admitting that other people have different opinions than his and his word isn't law.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

He might be.

To his credit, at least Cubed doesn't insult you too horribly. He just has trouble (or a stubborn refusal) admitting that other people have different opinions than his and his word isn't law.

I was just about to point that out, I may have only been here a short time and so I've only seen a few be nasty/swearing/personally attacking others, however Cubed is not one of them.

As for the thread in general, like others I think it's everywhere. As for this site, again I've not been on here long enough to say for sure, I've seen it but there's also a lot of reasonable discussion too. (can't speak for time past)

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, you missed all that movie drama and craziness. Pretty bad at times, but lets be honest... it could be pretty entertaining, too. At least if you don't try to take it too seriously.


This site is more like a half-grown angry puppy compared to some of the swamp monsters elsewhere on the internet.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Yeah, you missed all that movie drama and craziness. Pretty bad at times, but lets be honest... it could be pretty entertaining, too. At least if you don't try to take it too seriously.


This site is more like a half-grown angry puppy compared to some of the swamp monsters elsewhere on the internet.

Yeah I heard about 2014, just didn't know to what extent it was. Actually when I was browsing TMNT and came across this site it seemd fairly reasonable

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Yeah, you missed all that movie drama and craziness. Pretty bad at times, but lets be honest... it could be pretty entertaining, too. At least if you don't try to take it too seriously.


This site is more like a half-grown angry puppy compared to some of the swamp monsters elsewhere on the internet.

That's all you can do to survive is try and NOT take it too seriously.


although the latter half of the comment applies to my other post about a certain movie from last year that we shall dare not name .

[ToTheNines]

Ah man, this is from right after I got banned lol. I’ll have to read through this one on a rainy day.

[IndigoErth]

Isn't every fandom these days?

[ToTheNines]

Ok, I had to tap out half way through because it turned into culture war/Orange Man nonsense and away from the fandom. Funny how the world is stuck in 2016. Anyway, my thoughts on the topic:

I don’t think there’s an inherent toxicity, but there is constant conflict, which is GOOD. You want people having a back and forth instead of a circle jerk. I think you’re always going to have that clash in opinions though. Look at Mirage alone. You have elements of ninja revenge, sci-fi, fantasy, time travel, horror, environmental themes, comedy, romance, dystopian future, existentialism, and more. That’s already such a wide net, then throw in stuff like Fred Wolf, Rise and everything in between… and you have a wide range of perspectives.

TMNT has fans that range from Baby Boomers to gen Alpha at this point. After Mirage you have guys Steve Barron (British), Lloyd Goldfine (Jewish), Ciro Nieli (second generation Italian-American) and more behind beloved versions of the characters. Between real life and the internet I’ve observed many different walks of life being big fans of TMNT. Gay, straight, black, white, Latino, middle eastern, Asian, Russian, conservative, liberal, socialist, apolitical, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, atheist, rich, poor, you name it!

Many dromer’s have college degrees, and there are members here who are among the dumbest people I’ve ever met lol. Regardless, I think the diversity is great. But this negative reputation comes down to being thin skinned. The places where you’ll see people **** on the Drome (Reddit/facebook) might not be “toxic”, but I find them insufferable because they don’t have anything interesting to say.

I guess this thread was started shortly after the second PD movie, and the 2014-2016 sub forum was certainly contentious at the time… but I just stayed out of it mostly. I’ve had some arguments on here in past, but they crack me up when I go back and look at them now. It’s the internet… who cares?

If there’s anything bad about this place as a whole I’d point the finger at a lot of the past mods, honestly. Too many clowns got away with sh*tposting for too long, and WAY too many good contributors have been permbanned for not great reasons. I’m glad it’s just down to Jester and Barkworm now, they have their heads screwed on right.

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

just referring to the new types of posts one often sees in fandom these days. not specific to tmnt but it is elsewhere.

just more of the toxicity you see online these days.

You equating feminism with toxicity is itself toxic and it's why I can't ****ing stand you

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

just referring to the new types of posts one often sees in fandom these days. not specific to tmnt but it is elsewhere.

just more of the toxicity you see online these days.

Feminism is not toxicity.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Feminism is not toxicity.

It certainly can be when it goes too far just like anything else.

[Sumac]

'Drome is not any more toxic than any other fandom. I'd say in many regards it is more lax. At least, when it comes to TMNT. As for relationships between people - it has nothing to do specifically with Turtles and more with just people being jerks.

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

It certainly can be when it goes too far just like anything else.

Then it stops being Feminism and becomes zealous ranting.

Originally Posted by sdp

The Booty Sig Scandal

Can we get it back? Please, with cherry on top.

[plastroncafe]

Saying something isn't any more toxic doesn't make it not toxic.

And I stay because leaving wouldn't be anywhere near as much fun.

[Wretched Reptile]

I've participated in many fandoms over many years. This is no different than anything else. Differing opinions is all well and good and completely normal. It's often the inability to "agree to disagree" (like everything else in life lol, look around you right now) that sparks the feeling of toxicity and the like.

I do think, however, that TMNT fans are far more passionate and opinionated than some other fandoms out there. And that's a good thing, no matter which side you fall on whatever argument. I'd rather someone passionately care immensely about something I disagree with to a certain extent in this fandom (or any other) than care nothing at all - because once you can't be bothered to care, this fandom and many others will inevitably die. And that's not what any of us wants, no matter what we might think on occasion otherwise. It's natural to be possessive of something you care tremendously about. We all have personal perspectives, feelings and memories tied up in all of this that belong to us and us alone. I think THAT often gets in the way of realizing not everyone can and will think of all this the exact same way you do. And why should they? And what fun would that ultimately end up being? It's interesting to see how a property like this has continued to enrich and touch people's lives in varying ways and how they feel about it years on.

I don't post all that often but I do lurk a lot and enjoy seeing the opinions and the energy on display here. It pleases me greatly that so many still care so much about these characters. That's the best feeling to me I can have regardless of the particulars at any given time. TMNT is alive and well and looks to continue to be so for a long, long time.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Saying something isn't any more toxic doesn't make it not toxic.

Not really. There is difference in toxicity between 'Drome and, say, 4Chan.

Besides, people nowadays call "toxic" anything that they don't like or that don't align with their ideas. So, in general, the word "toxicity" is overused and lost pretty much any serious meaning, like the words "offended", "outrage", e.t.c.

So question, how toxic this place is? IMO, not much.
It's just, as I said, people this days have become overzealous and want to put this label on everything that they don't like.

The better question would be, how much of 'Drome discussions they have seen or for how long they lurked here, before coming to such conclusion.

[ProphetofGanja]

This is the only thing I want to think of when I hear the word "toxicity":

[dl316bh]

Originally Posted by Sumac

The better question would be, how much of 'Drome discussions they have seen or for how long they lurked here, before coming to such conclusion.

I lurked for years and I kind of got the impression too. I think part of it is the infighting and jabs. It's not just the tags or anything like that, I feel like I've seen a lot of pissing contests over the years, some that got downright nasty.

But, you know, I still joined. To some degree, I think a fair number of forums with a decent number of active people will have problems, because with the different people around, you're going to have jerks. If you're going to measure degrees of toxicity, I'd think this place would only be mid-range. I've seen some uglier forums over the years. There were some big comic forums that were poorly moderated and insufferable years back, for example.

There are perks here, too. A good bit of you seem alright and are pleasant enough to talk to. I don't feel like anyone was ever "BEGONE, NEWBIE" or anything like that. I've only used it once, but the option to "block" people is a nice one to have if you need it and not every forum has the option. People involved in the IDW comics come here, which is cool.