Is there a "toxicity" in this fandom?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by biganimefan

There is I think some toxicity in these forums, but it's not that bad when it comes down to it. I know back a few years ago when the "movie" came out I thought things were downright awful. I didn't stop to think that Andrew and others knew what they were talking about when they called some forum users "plants".

But they weren't forum users. They were PLANTS! There's a thread somewhere in the PD subforum where I exposed the hive of them.

[shuriken]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

But they weren't forum users. They were PLANTS! There's a thread somewhere in the PD subforum where I exposed the hive of them.

Yeah I remember that. It was weird. I mean I enjoyed the 2 PD turtle movies, but I knew they were junk when I saw them. Still better than TMNT (07) ugh

I dunno man, this place is pretty mild IMO, but then again I've lurked through some garbage at 4Chan and some old Marvel forums so I dunno, probably just desensitized. I don't post as much mainly because I don't find it as fun as I did before. I get a chuckle every now and then but not like before. Like I still read the comics and play the old video games but I don't really care about talking about it with other people that have already pretty much heard it all before and are already set in their ways I guess. Plus I haven't watched the latest 2 seasons of the NIck show so there's less discussion material, I don't collect as much figures anymore and some members here are pretty insufferable, and a lot of the people I enjoyed interacting with are either banned or just left so yeah.
Booty sigs were dumb, and buslady was ok, just a bit up tight in that respect.
I do miss Goku though, that guy was a trip

[biganimefan]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

But they weren't forum users. They were PLANTS! There's a thread somewhere in the PD subforum where I exposed the hive of them.

And I know that now. Just back then I had no idea something like that happens. TMNT is really the only forum I've ever spent any serious time with. I just saw it as flaming overenthusiastic fans at the time. It was ignorance on my part.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

But they weren't forum users. They were PLANTS! There's a thread somewhere in the PD subforum where I exposed the hive of them.

someone link that thread, I missed all that drama

[Krutch]

I'm still not convinced we even had plants to begin with, personally.

Were a bunch of new accounts made who were excited for the new movie around the time the new movie was about to come out? Sure. Did they defend the new movie? Yep. Are any around nowadays? Nope. This is all still very extremely circumstancial "evidence" to go by.

When marketing begins for a new movie, it's going to by design usher in new fans to the fandom. Those that come here, fresh off new interest from trailers, will very likely want to talk about that specifically since that's what rekindled their interest. Why did they leave? Well, disgregard everything someone posts and shout PLAAAAAANT at them long enough, see how long anyone will stick around.

Unless I missed something, I still don't see any concrete proof that we had plants.

As for whether or not the fandom is toxic, ehhh... Not really. I mean, certain users are going to come off more brash and less reasonable than others, but that's not exactly toxic. It's just an odd fandom to be apart of since the franchise is rich with a wide range stories ranging from mature graphic novels to live rock concerts.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Krutch

I'm still not convinced we even had plants to begin with, personally.

Were a bunch of new accounts made who were excited for the new movie around the time the new movie was about to come out? Sure. Did they defend the new movie? Yep. Are any around nowadays? Nope. This is all still very extremely circumstancial "evidence" to go by.

You've missed key threads, then. A gang of people who all joined at the exact same time who were all Friends (if you view their profile) with one another in-forum who all post and react to others in exactly the same tone to exactly the same end... that's what the Drome was hit with, at the precise time the OotS marketing machine was revving up and concluded at the precise time it no longer made any more fiscal sense to continue. It is quantifiable.

[Krutch]

I did miss that, yeah.

It's still not concrete but makes a stronger case.

[Powder]

We 100% did in fact have plants. Not as many as Andrew believes, but a handful or more were confirmed by having matching IP addresses when banned.

[Vegita-San]

I sometimes wonder who the plants are in ghostbuster fandom. alot of those people talked and reacted the same way to bad movies too..just as our plants did.

and then vanished from the communities without a trace as soon as the promotional period ended.


apparently the only way to promote a bad movie is to be a jerk online and cause division. i will never understand that tactic.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Krutch

I'm still not convinced we even had plants to begin with, personally.

Considering that the plant/shill shouts are what people usually yell out just to drown out people they disagree with, I'm inclined to agree.

The only "evidence" I saw here was as flimsy as toilet paper on taco day.

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Were a bunch of new accounts made who were excited for the new movie around the time the new movie was about to come out? Sure. Did they defend the new movie? Yep. Are any around nowadays? Nope. This is all still very extremely circumstancial "evidence" to go by.

One thing this site does suffer from is paranoia and lack of trust. There's always some conspiracy going on, most of the time it's not real.

Originally Posted by myconius

SHE'S toxic!

This reminds me of a jingle :

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Yeah, there been many here accused of being a so called Plant, even though they been on this board for a very long time, some people just have different taste then others, that tends to divide the community, good thing we have multiple versions of TMNT out there, everyone has there own preference.

Tell me about. I've been called out as a mental patient because I only post Thursdays. I visit other websites during the week, I don't really have the time to constantly have this forum up, waiting for someone to respond to me. One user decided I was a plant and wasted his time investigating my join date and my post count. I still can't fathom why anybody would waste their time like that to prove something that's not true.

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Aggressive posts trying to say 'your opinion is wrong' will not work, and you'll just make the other person more hostile towards your opinion.

I agree. I kind of wish people were more accommodating. Thankfully it's a=only a bunch of users of here that are like that.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

I sometimes wonder who the plants are in ghostbuster fandom. alot of those people talked and reacted the same way to bad movies too..just as our plants did.

You should visit the Ghostbusters Fans forum, there's a number there it seems. That's why I got kicked out, because I wasn't drinking the Kool Aid on how terrific the reboot movie was, same goes for Trekcore and the new show Star Trek Discovery. The only people allowed to post there are the pro-Discovery trolls.

[plastroncafe]

Because it bears repeating, the only common denominator and all of your failed relationships, be them online Forum or in the meats space, is you.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Because it bears repeating, the only common denominator and all of your failed relationships, be them online Forum or in the meats space, is you.

Just so I'm sure I am not misinterpreting you, may you clarify what you mean by this?

Because I hope it doesn't mean what I think it does.

[RaphaelsIsolation]

I've not logged in for a great time.

Yes, there is some toxic things going on in the TMNT kingdom. I'll explain why.

The longevity of the TMNT world is now current 33 years? Something like that. It was very very heavy from 1984-1993ish. Then things slowed down a lot. 94-99 was a downtime mostly.

It pulled through and overall it's been a great franchise. What you have now... is older fans like myself that can remember watching the original 88 cartoon back in 1990-1993 mainly on Saturday mornings...and just being wowed. Getting the toys for Christmas etc....

And you have newer fans... aka millennials. Who to be honest, "for the most part" are some of the worst people on the planet.

I already know this post won't go over well, and that is fine. This is just the truth. Younger people or... "millennials" is anyone born in the 1996-2000 range. People that are roughly 15-21 years of age currently.

Hence being born close to the "millennium". I'm not hating. It's just facts. Younger audiences to TMNT are really harsh or overly accepting of everything.

(political rant could go here...)

They lack logic and objectiveness. That is fine I guess. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It isn't all their fault though. Some of us older people are somewhat straight laced in our thinking.

Like I'll say the Original movie is the best, or the OT is the best cartoon of TMNT. Why? Well I do think they are both the best, and more original, as they were 1st in their genres of movie and cartoon. MOst things 1st are the best usually.

Also, because I grew up with them. Maybe that is why? I don't know. I really do try to look at it from a objective view. The current CGI TMNT isn't that great to me. Never got into it. It's fine, it's good at times, but it just isn't for me. My kids love it of course.

The trick is that you have TMNT fans that are 30-40, and then fans that are 15-21ish

Of course you have fans aged 22-29... duh. But the majority of fans fall in this age ranges I think. And the thought processes are different. Very different in most things.

That brings debate and toxicity.

If you didn't read all of this... then you've really missed out.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Just so I'm sure I am not misinterpreting you, may you clarify what you mean by this?

Because I hope it doesn't mean what I think it does.

There's an "and" that's supposed to be an "in" does that help?

Here's the thing, it's all well and good to blame other people for things in one's life. But if those things repeat over and over again.
Maybe it's not external factors at all.

Also...RaphaelInIsolation, your insistence that your subjective opinion is an objective one is...interesting.

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Because it bears repeating, the only common denominator and all of your failed relationships, be them online Forum or in the meats space, is you.

Not sure what applies to me. I'm open minded generally to an extent unless I think it's really bad. Others on the other hand want to control the forums like Trekcore.

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I misunderstood you as referring to all failed relationships rather than 1 person with repeated failed relationships.

He posted directly after me. He didn't quote anyone so I thought he meant me which makes no sense considering what I said.

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

There is literally no such thing as an objective opinion, the two are like, mutually exclusive

Critical analysis ia always part subjective and objective opinion...but that's just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Powder

There is a whole lotta "toxic" on this page of the thread.

Is it my video link to The Toxic Crusaders intro?