Official Justice League Movie

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Well, in his defense, he was called in for reshoots, not rewriting/refilming the whole damn film.

And compared to Lex Luthor, General Zod, Doomsday, Ares, and... wait, no. Is Steppenwolf worse than Enchantress as a villain? Because Suicide Squad didn't fare so well in the third act either.

Just going off of what I've seen, Steppenwolf might be about the same as the Enchantress' brother in that movie.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Just going off of what I've seen, Steppenwolf might be about the same as the Enchantress' brother in that movie.

As long as Steppenwolf ain't shakin' his hips, I'll be fine.

[Andrew NDB]

As written-by-movie-reviews reactionary WB is, one thing you can bet is that the failure of Steppenwolf is going to make them really, really leery about doing Darkseid anytime soon. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

As written-by-movie-reviews reactionary WB is, one thing you can bet is that the failure of Steppenwolf is going to make them really, really leery about doing Darkseid anytime soon. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

They should have done Darkseid in the first place.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

They should have done Darkseid in the first place.

Nah. That'd be like doing Avengers 1 with Galactus.

[Autbot_Benz]

Rotton Tomatoes has 40% for Justice League

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/justice_league_2017/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Nah. That'd be like doing Avengers 1 with Galactus.

Well, I was speaking regarding towards what their latest plan was: skip all the MCU Phase 1 setup and get right to the goods: Batman V Superman and Justice League. They did Doomsday already, remember? So by that logic, no pulling punches, go straight to Darkseid.

What they should have done is play it slow, build towards a proper climax, and not jump straight to the endgame. By that logic... well, I don't really know who a good Justice League villain would have been. Somebody not in the same league as Darkseid, but still beatable.

Hmmm. Maybe have Ares return, reborn, and the League has to stop him from manipulating a new war? Batman, Flash, Green Lantern, and Aquaman working to deter the warring human armies, while Wonder Woman and Superman fight the god himself?

Dunno.

[Papenbrook]

Ben Affleck does it again, folks.

Eat your heart out, Plastroncafe.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Ben Affleck does it again, folks.

Eat your heart out, Plastroncafe.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Ben Affleck does it again, folks.

Eat your heart out, Plastroncafe.

Jesus, he was asked what the JL would do right now in real life and he alluded they might clean up the sexual harassers and assaulters and... this is a big deal? This is offensive? Good grief, it's better to just avoid questions entirely, I guess.

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Jesus, he was asked what the JL would do right now in real life and he alluded they might clean up the sexual harassers and assaulters and... this is a big deal? This is offensive? Good grief, it's better to just avoid questions entirely, I guess.

No. He should have either better-worded his answer or, better yet, never even answered in the first place.

His current answer was clearly in poor taste.

[ProphetofGanja]

So, since the DCEU has been a near complete failure at this point, let me pose a question: how would YOU have structured the DC film universe and what story arcs would you have proposed?

[ZariusTwo]

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/jus...league-review/

"JL is the Lift music of the DCEU"

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

So, since the DCEU has been a near complete failure at this point, let me pose a question: how would YOU have structured the DC film universe and what story arcs would you have proposed?

I'd start with "Man of Steel" almost as-is but fixing the Pa Kent death, the not saving anyone in the Metropolis battle, and the "Dammit Clark, why didn't you let that bus full of kids die??" stuff. Probably have Lois not figure out who Clark is just yet.

Then right away, develop "Superman" and "The Batman." "Superman" would be Superman's triumphant debut doing full-on Superman stuff while juggling life at the Daily Planet and a love story with Lois. While Brainiac arrives, Lex Luthor (played by someone like Joaquin Phoenix) runs a smear campaign against Superman for all the trouble he has brought to Earth in this movie and the last and, while he's revealed to be a bad guy and even in cahoots with Brainiac, is able to spin all of his actions into heroism in the public eye and even begins a campaign for president at the end.

"The Batman" would be a straight-up Batman movie. Batman would be an older Batman still, but not the "I've been doing this 20 years" guy that Affleck is playing. Post-Jason death but way before he'd be "The Dark Knight Returns" Batman. Maybe a play on "Knightfall," but not in the way you might think. Like, a real super rough couple of days. BOOM, a villain lets out everyone from Arkham Asylum, and Batman runs ragged for 48 hours bagging them back up while learning to trust a new Robin, Tim Drake. Maybe the mastermind can be Hush, tying into Bruce's childhood.

"Wonder Woman," "The Flash," and "Green Lantern Corps" all go into production.

"Wonder Woman" would be almost just as is, though personally I think making her some kind of an immortal who is over a century old was a terrible idea. More contemporary, there can be stuff with her mom in WWII but I'd move the whole Steve Trevor stuff to a more recent conflict like Afghanistan or Iraq.

"The Flash," maybe a condensed version of season 1 of the CW show with less dramatics. With a blond Barry Allen who isn't a geek.

"Green Lantern Corps," not too unlike what it sounds like their general plan for it is. Hal is already a GL, and we're there when he recruits John Stewart. It sucks that the GL movie burned out Sinestro and Krona, because they'd be perfect here. The two then go on an adventure to stop Nekron from invading our realm, and maybe when things get rough they go and recruit Guy Gardner and Kyle Rayner, too. At the end, when the rift is sealed and the GLs leave, we see Apokolips pop into our dimension... which leads us to:

"Justice League." As Apokolips itself descends upon Earth, everybody has to get together to stop Darkseid. Aquaman is the only one we haven't met by this point, so we're getting to know him now. Lots of heroism and Darkseid is taken aback, retreating to his dimension.

After that point, you know, get moving on Man of Steel 3 (Mongul! Warworld!), The Batman 2 (the big Joker movie), Wonder Woman 2, Aquaman, and sequels to GLC and Flash if the first ones were profitable. "Teen Titans" would be neat to see (where Cyborg belongs! debut Deathstroke here, too), "Secret Six" (not Suicide Squad) as well. Movies like "Batgirl" and "Nightwing" and such can be sprinkled about where they'd be organic.

[CyberCubed]

At least 40% rotten isn't that bad.

[Coola Yagami]

I'll just Red Box it or wait for Netflix.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm still looking forward to seeing this. Excited for Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Superman, and Batman. But the movie will have flaws.

And the DCEU's biggest problem is still that they overreact to each and every criticism and over correct with the next film. I don't think it's any coincidence that their best and most cohesive movies have been the ones that stayed closest to the original intent: Man of Steel and Wonder Woman. This gives me high hopes for Aquaman, maybe even Shazam... but I wouldn't trust that Flashpoint movie at all if it ever comes out.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-dc-u...sical-reboots/

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Jesus, he was asked what the JL would do right now in real life and he alluded they might clean up the sexual harassers and assaulters and... this is a big deal? This is offensive? Good grief, it's better to just avoid questions entirely, I guess.

I have to generally agree with this. Whatever mistakes are in his past, he has made his current position clear. Accusers need to use some context to better judge his demeanor, or just walk away and ignore the man. His comment isn’t hurting anyone.

Yes, we should be sensitive about what we say, but I think the bigger issue is how much influence we expect to take from celebrity voices.

[Shark_Blade]

Review time!

Cons:

• Superman's face at the beginning - I read that at that time he had a moustache and can't shave it due to another movie he was doing. So they CGI'ed that part of his face - no wonder it looks weird. But then again we had Tony Stark CGI'ed to make him a teenager/young adult and he looked amazing.
• Batman's intro fighting off that bad guy with the the gun at the rooftop. He dangled him at the edge to lure a monster. Batman fought the monster, then he was having a friendly chit chat with him then let him go...? What?
• When Wonder Woman was fighting off Superman, it seems like she's inferior/weaker? But I guess she's holding off not to harm Clark too much, but still...WW should've owned his ass.

Pros:

• Beautiful visual/cinematography
• Cool music
• Great action sequences
• Good chemistry among the main cast.
• When Superman glares at The Flash (catching up on his speed), I got chills!
• Some light hearted jokes
• Background stories/exploration of the main cast's fears/vulnerabilities.
• Those secret endings during/after credit? Amazing!

Also the whole "controversy" of how skimpy the Amazon warriors' outfit are? They look fine, pretty much consistent from WW's movie. People are such whiny, sissy gits.

Overall, I'd give it a 7.8/10. It's good and the people at the cinema I went to had a blast.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

[*]When Wonder Woman was fighting off Superman, it seems like she's inferior/weaker? But I guess she's holding off not to harm Clark too much, but still...WW should've owned his ass.

It's well established in the comics that, yes, WW has super-strength... but nowhere near Superman's level. Superman can throw around moons, WW can maybe pick up a car.