Official Justice League Movie

[Autbot_Benz]

Down to 38 percent on Rotten Tomatoes

[ProphetofGanja]

Damn. I was toying with the idea of going to see this in theaters to at least enjoy the spectacle, despite knowing my eyes might roll out of my head at the dumber parts, but that's a pretty low score. I might catch it in the dollar theater though

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It's well established in the comics that, yes, WW has super-strength... but nowhere near Superman's level. Superman can throw around moons, WW can maybe pick up a car.

exactly my thought.

[Papenbrook]

Gal Gadot threw up during the filming of Justice League.

I seriously hope they (Warner Bros.) aren't overworking the staff.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Gal Gadot threw up during the filming of Justice League.

I seriously hope they (Warner Bros.) aren't overworking the staff.

They weren't she was hiding her morning sickness because she was pregnant

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/11/16/j...ning-sickness/

[Shark_Blade]

She's such a trooper filming during pregnancy. Hope she takes care of herself well.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It's well established in the comics that, yes, WW has super-strength... but nowhere near Superman's level. Superman can throw around moons, WW can maybe pick up a car.

Isn't there a story where Batman has a box for every heroes weakness (I.e. Superman is kryptonite etc) but Wonder Woman's was empty? It created an illusion that she's so powerful but I think Batman just failed to pinpoint her weakness lol.

[CyberCubed]

Sounds like it's an average movie for comic book fans. So if you enjoy the heroes you'll probably like it.

[Krutch]

Spoiler free thoughts...

It's not as bad as people make it out to be. I think the disappointment stems from what the first Justice League movie could/should have been and not judging the film by it's own merrits.

It's decent. It's easy to consume and quickly forgotten.

It's really not that bad.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Spoiler free thoughts...

It's not as bad as people make it out to be. I think the disappointment stems from what the first Justice League movie could/should have been and not judging the film by it's own merrits.

It's decent. It's easy to consume and quickly forgotten.

It's really not that bad.

That's probably exactly the end goal WB laid out to Joss Whedon.

[sdp]

I decided not to go to the premier which I'm guessing will translate in me not catching this movie in theaters anymore, who knows it could happen.

Originally Posted by Krutch

Spoiler free thoughts...

It's not as bad as people make it out to be. I think the disappointment stems from what the first Justice League movie could/should have been and not judging the film by it's own merrits.

It's decent. It's easy to consume and quickly forgotten.

It's really not that bad.

Sounds like what the Avengers was to me.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I heard there's an after credits scene

[Krutch]

There's a mid credit scene and an end credit scene.

Alot of the problems I have with this movie is stuff thats been established in other movies, or just poorly executed (does anyone really buy that Superman was this beacon of hope for people? He died in the same movie where the topical discussion was whether or not they could trust him.) So, it's not really this movie's fault that its living within that universe. It's easier to swallow if you go in pretending that Wonder Woman was the first DC movie in this timeline. Everything clicks alot better.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Krutch

It's easier to swallow if you go in pretending that Wonder Woman was the first DC movie in this timeline.

It is though, isn't it?

[Krutch]

It really is. Even with that in mind, don't go in expecting a home run. It's just... I think the 37% is overly harsh. It's a solid 60.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Spoiler free thoughts...

It's not as bad as people make it out to be. I think the disappointment stems from what the first Justice League movie could/should have been and not judging the film by it's own merrits.

It's decent. It's easy to consume and quickly forgotten.

It's really not that bad.

Yeah, I saw it last night and really enjoyed it. Definitely not a fantastic film on a technical level (if you're looking for it you can tell they went in and pretty much remade the movie) but the characters are great & it's a lot of fun.

My main test for any Superman movie is do I come out feeling uplifted and hopeful. Superman Returns & Man of Steel didn't do it for me for various reasons, BvS took any faith I had in the franchise and buried it deeper than Superman's coffin, but they managed it with JL. The movie has, to quote Geoff Johns, more heart, heroics & hope than MoS or BvS ever had. They really were the missing ingredients in this universe.

The credits really should read Directed by Zack Snyder, Fixed by Joss Whedon though. There are some scenes that definitely feel like Snyder's but overall the movie feels a lot more Whedon and that's for the better. Just wish he'd been on it from the start rather than being brought in because it was a mess then taking over under such horrible circumstances.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That's probably exactly the end goal WB laid out to Joss Whedon.

I'm pretty certain that's almost exactly what happened. That they brought him in, said "here are the big set pieces that we can't afford to redo (with one major exception), this is the story, please get it from A to B, use the original footage where you can to keep costs down, acknowledge previous films where needed (Superman's still dead) but make as stand alone as possible (the movie really can be watched on its own and works as a soft reboot just as well as it does as the end of the MoS/BvS/JL trilogy), but more importantly make the characters work/likeable, and on that note - fix Superman, don't worry about costs here, completely redo him as this film needs to finally get him right"

And that's exactly what he does.

Henry Cavill finally gets to be Superman in this movie. WB need to get that sequel moving, I really want to see more of this Superman! Which is good because he's my favourite super hero but after BvS I didn't care if they left him dead, I hated the portrayal that much. Henry deserved so much better than those first two movies, he really shines here (steals every scene once he returns) and deserves a solo where he can just play this Superman under a better director who understands the character more.

Originally Posted by Krutch

There's a mid credit scene and an end credit scene.

Alot of the problems I have with this movie is stuff thats been established in other movies, or just poorly executed (does anyone really buy that Superman was this beacon of hope for people? He died in the same movie where the topical discussion was whether or not they could trust him.) So, it's not really this movie's fault that its living within that universe. It's easier to swallow if you go in pretending that Wonder Woman was the first DC movie in this timeline. Everything clicks alot better.

Yeah this movie is totally a soft reboot of the DCU, especially of the characterisations of Superman & Batman.

[Shark_Blade]

[ZariusTwo]

I've seen it. It's not bad, it's not great either, but it's no the cheese-fest quip fest I was dreading it to be.

Spoiler:

I can't really get my head around people praising Supes he's basically a glorified cameo, there's no trauma from his resurrection after he hugs Lois after the fight and goes back to the farm, which I think is what they cut a lot from the film. There's no heroes journey for him, more what his prescense or lack of presence does for the team and the rest of the world.

Speaking of the rest of the world, I did like the bit at the start with the crook asking Bats about the the first Parademon attack and Superman's absence. I like little touches like that which humanize the existing landscape.

I honestly felt like Cyborg, who needed a lot more focus and exposition than Arthur and Barry, felt the most forced in here. Not too sure why, Arthur and Barry had shorter intros but they felt like a very natural fit. Mera was badass, wish she had more to do. Silas Stone felt at home in the film also.

There wasn't much of the romantic chemistry Diana and Bruce were supposedly said to have shared...they had a drink together and that's the extent of it. Not much to rage over.

The stakes in the final fight really lacked, they needed more citizens than focus on the one family...I know they tried to make it look like there were more with the building Clark lifted, but ehhhh.

Overall, it's a fun time. Quite clunky, but quite chunky too

[Autbot_Benz]

Its back up to 39% of Critic Reviews with 86% people liked it

[CyberCubed]

Looking through a lot of reviews, a lot of reviewers gave it a C+ but for some reason rotten still counts it as a negative and gives it a rotten score. It seems like this film would have scored a lot higher if they counted the C+ or "average" reviews as positive.

[Spike Spiegel]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Its back up to 39% of Critic Reviews with 86% people liked it

No corporate bias here.

Nope, none at all.

I'll be seeing this tomorrow with a buddy. Still managing to avoid spoilers for the most part.

One of my older coworkers asked me out of the blue if I knew anything about the controversy with the Amazon costumes. He's not a huge comic fan or anything, so I guess discussions about this movie are leaking into people's mainstream Facebook and Twitter feeds.