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[dl316bh]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

You are on this forum...but we do not grant you the rank of sh*tposter.

http://memecrunch.com/meme/BEWEG/take-a-seat/image.jpg

"Officer Duffy, take a seat."

It might be sad that my first thought when I saw "take a seat" is Robocop 2.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by dl316bh

http://robocoparchive.com/old/duffy.JPG

"Officer Duffy, take a seat."

It might be sad that my first thought when I saw "take a seat" is Robocop 2.

Robo is one of my guilty pleasures (not everything they did with it)

You like milking tits too?

thanks ZariousTwo, that response made me laugh.

[Andrew NDB]

Not entirely related, but one of my strongest and fondest RoboCop memories is from the Marvel Comics' "RoboCop" comic that lasted about 23 issues.

There's a scene with RoboCop busting into a club looking for a perp, and RoboCop shouts "Everybody get down! Now!" This hippy looking dude is dancing and grooving on the dancefloor and walks up to RoboCop with a smile saying, "Yeah, man! Let's all get down! Boogie!" And then the guy gets shot up by the perp, caught in the crossfire.

[dl316bh]

Originally Posted by newfan

Robo is one of my guilty pleasures (not everything they did with it)

Yeah, not everything Robocop 2 did was great. But I still think it's a pretty okay movie and it had some good ideas. It's not Robocop 3, at least. I can rewatch R2 and find things to enjoy. Can't say the same for the third.

Not entirely related, but one of my strongest and fondest RoboCop memories is from the Marvel Comics' "RoboCop" comic that lasted about 23 issues.

There's a scene with RoboCop busting into a club looking for a perp, and RoboCop shouts "Everybody get down! Now!" This hippy looking dude is dancing and grooving on the dancefloor and walks up to RoboCop with a smile saying, "Yeah, man! Let's all get down! Boogie!" And then the guy gets shot up by the perp, caught in the crossfire.

Robocop vs Terminator aside, I haven't read nearly as many Robocop comics as I'd like to have. I've never really been sure which are worth reading. There have been plenty of miniseries and ongoings over the last thirty years and I'm sure they're all of varying quality.

[plastroncafe]

I've never actually seen RoboCop, so...my question for the folks wot love it:
Does it hold up?
Is it worth checking out?
And what peripheries would you recommend?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I've never actually seen RoboCop, so...my question for the folks wot love it:
Does it hold up?
Is it worth checking out?
And what peripheries would you recommend?

You haven't seen RoboCop? Oh, you must. It's aged fine beyond some of the ED-209 shots.

RoboCop 2 is not great, but worth watching to decide for yourself. RoboCop 3 is probably best avoided but there is good... moments in it.

You can avoid the TV show but I'd strongly recommend the "RoboCop: Prime Directives" mini-series that's out on like, 4 different DVDs. It was really, really good.

[dl316bh]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I've never actually seen RoboCop, so...my question for the folks wot love it:
Does it hold up?
Is it worth checking out?
And what peripheries would you recommend?

The original Robocop is still shockingly relevant to today in regards to its satire and holds up great as a story. Yes, it's absolutely worth checking out. Robocop 2 is a pretty alright movie if you want more, but it's not quite as good. Avoid 3.

For stuff outside the movies, I've read Robocop vs Terminator and it's pretty great. Frank Miller and Walt Simonson in their prime. Outside of that, I don't have a ton of experience.

It's aged fine beyond some of the ED-209 shots.

Yeah, and even those aren't really that bad either. The effects hold up quite well.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by dl316bh

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For stuff outside the movies, I've read Robocop vs Terminator and it's pretty great. Frank Miller and Walt Simonson in their prime. Outside of that, I don't have a ton of experience.

Is this Miller before or after he started drinking his own kool-aid?

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

You are on this forum...but we do not grant you the rank of sh*tposter.

It's nice to know someone cares about post integrity.

but in this case, i couldn't resist an obvious dig, cause we all know it'll be ok to trash the solo movie .

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

It's nice to know someone cares about post integrity.

but in this case, i couldn't resist an obvious dig, cause we all know it'll be ok to trash the solo movie .

But only because you gave us permission.

[dl316bh]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Is this Miller before or after he started drinking his own kool-aid?

Before. It's 80's/90's Miller. He's always had a weird streak, but he didn't get bad until somewhere around the aughts.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by dl316bh

For stuff outside the movies, I've read Robocop vs Terminator and it's pretty great. Frank Miller and Walt Simonson in their prime. Outside of that, I don't have a ton of experience.

I mentioned the Marvel RoboCop comic but I can't really recommend it. I recall it did try some pretty interesting things (like a rival company to OCP called "Nixco," that makes android "Nixcops") and go to some dark places, though. Pretty sure his wife and son got murdered in the last issue.

Yeah, RoboCop vs. Terminator is pretty great. It's pretty clear it was written before Frank Miller had seen Terminator 2, though.

I remember reading that Frank Miller did a Dark Horse "RoboCop" comic or two that was supposed to reflect the RoboCop 2 or 3 he actually envisioned... I think. Pretty sure I remember reading about that. Anyway, that's out there somewhere and is probably worth a look, too.

Originally Posted by dl316bh

Robocop 2 is a pretty alright movie if you want more, but it's not quite as good. Avoid 3.

For stuff outside the movies, I've read Robocop vs Terminator and it's pretty great. Frank Miller and Walt Simonson in their prime.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Is this Miller before or after he started drinking his own kool-aid?

Do you know that Frank Miller wrote the screenplays for both RoboCop 2 and RoboCop 3? He also has a cameo in 2. As "Frank."

[dl316bh]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I mentioned the Marvel RoboCop comic but I can't really recommend it. I recall it did try some pretty interesting things (like a rival company to OCP called "Nixco," that makes android "Nixcops") and go to some dark places, though. Pretty sure his wife and son got murdered in the last issue.

Probably be a bitch to find even if I wanted to check it out now. I don't know if it's on Comixology.

Yeah, RoboCop vs. Terminator is pretty great. It's pretty clear it was written before Frank Miller had seen Terminator 2, though.

Didn't they come out around the same time? I think both were '91. It would explain it.

Oh, also, that reminds me, the Robocop vs Terminator Sega Genesis game? It rocks. Worth emulating (because there will never be another legal way to play that s*** again unless you want to spend time tracking a physical copy down).

I remember reading that Frank Miller did a Dark Horse "RoboCop" comic or two that was supposed to reflect the RoboCop 2 or 3 he actually envisioned... I think. Pretty sure I remember reading about that. Anyway, that's out there somewhere and is probably worth a look, too.

Oh yeah, I remember hearing about that. I heard it was pretty good, but also clear that Robocop 2 did actually keep a fair amount of Millers script, or more than he made it seem. I should track it down. It's recent enough that it's probably in trade or on Comixology.

Do you know that Frank Miller wrote the screenplays for both RoboCop 2 and RoboCop 3?

He did 3? I thought it was just 2.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You haven't seen RoboCop? Oh, you must. It's aged fine beyond some of the ED-209 shots.

RoboCop 2 is not great, but worth watching to decide for yourself. RoboCop 3 is probably best avoided but there is good... moments in it.

You can avoid the TV show but I'd strongly recommend the "RoboCop: Prime Directives" mini-series that's out on like, 4 different DVDs. It was really, really good.

Yes the first one is the best and worth a watch, the .... 2 I watch still, (alternative script for that is on-line) ... 3 not so much. I didn't take to Prime directives...I remember thinking 'noo.. there are 3 more disks to go' Didn't like his portrayal.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Do you know that Frank Miller wrote the screenplays for both RoboCop 2 and RoboCop 3? He also has a cameo in 2. As "Frank."

So long as it's before his kool-aid period, that'll be fine.
I love his early stuff, back when it seemed to me he knew he was writing porn.
It's his later stuff I avoid like the plague.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by dl316bh

Probably be a bitch to find even if I wanted to check it out now. I don't know if it's on Comixology.

A quick search turned this up:
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Robocop-1990

Didn't they come out around the same time? I think both were '91. It would explain it.

Yeah, I remember it came out right when the Marvel series ended. It was a bittersweet thing.

He did 3? I thought it was just 2.

Both. Though lots of complaining from him about the studio ruining his RoboCop 3 script.

I remember playing the SNES Robocop vs. Terminator and it not being terrible.

[dl316bh]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

It's his later stuff I avoid like the plague.

You're doing yourself a big favor. I've read some of his aughts and beyond work out of morbid "can't look away from the train derailment" curiosity. It's bad.

A quick search turned this up:

Thanks man. I think I'll at least skim a few issues.

Both. Though lots of complaining about the studio ruining his RoboCop 3 script.

I remember playing the SNES Robocop vs. Terminator and it not being terrible.

I can believe it. Robocop 3 is not great. I thought it was just them pulling stuff from 2 for 3, though, I didn't realize he actually wrote any of it. I must have remembered incorrectly.

SNES RvsT was pretty good too. It's the one you should play if you want the comic story interspersed with the action. I love the graphics and gameplay of the Genesis version better though.

[newfan]

I'm sure I looked at the comics for Millers 2 and 3 on-line, his story differs a little from what was then done in the actual movies. Not entirely certain but I don't think he was happy about it.
3 was downgraded I think to try and make it appeal to a younger audience (so the fans have complained) but I don't think 2 was very sucessful and that was an 18 (R rating).

As far as comics, I only read one or two (so I actually have read a comic... just doesn't really count so much as real comic franchise ) but there seem to be a few who have had a try at the franchise.

Anyway, a derailed thread but at least we have few posts without arguing... unless any Robocop haters are on their way

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by newfan

I'm sure I looked at the comics for Millers 2 and 3 on-line, his story differs a little from what was then done in the actual movies.

As far as comics, I only read one or two (so I actually have read a comic... just doesn't really count so much as real comic franchise ) but there seem to be a few who have had a try at the franchise.

Anyway, a derailed thread but at least we have few posts without arguing... unless any Robocop haters are on their way

Well I'm here, which means we're at least a comment or two away from someone getting buttmad, having their panties twisted, or continuing their efforts to neg me into some sort of submission.

[dl316bh]

Originally Posted by newfan

Anyway, a derailed thread but at least we have few posts without arguing...

We should just make this a Robocop thread from now on.

unless any Robocop haters are on their way

...

I will fight them.