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Old 02-03-2018, 12:00 AM   #1
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Aren't records really big right now too?


(Just give it about...30 years...CDs will revive with the new wave of Them Young Hipsters)
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:03 AM   #2
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Aren't records really big right now too?


(Just give it about...30 years...CDs will revive with the new wave of Them Young Hipsters)
Come to think of it, cassettes are actually making somewhat of a comeback.

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Old 02-03-2018, 12:11 AM   #3
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Man, all of this AND polaroids.

Next thing you know there will be "special edition" VHSes
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:29 AM   #4
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Last album I bought was Trevor Something's "Synthetic Love". Mainly because I wanted to support the artist.

What worries me about a completely digitialization of all media is they might stop producing alot of bonus features since that's whats generally used to sell DVDs.
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:31 AM   #5
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What worries me about a completely digitialization of all media is they might stop producing alot of bonus features since that's whats generally used to sell DVDs.
That's already happened. And most of the features they do just end up on Youtube, anyway. At this point the studios are actively aiding in the killing of physical media to get to a world where it's the Adobe business model... rent to watch, never own.

Look at "The F8 of the Furious." You want to buy the blu-ray? You can. You want the "Extended Cut"? You have to buy the blu-ray... and the "Extended Cut" is only available to watch via a code within the blu-ray case. Truly infuriating.
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:33 AM   #6
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At this point the studios are actively aiding in the killing of physical media to get to a world where it's the Adobe business model... rent to watch, never own.
God bless pirates, amirite!!
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God bless pirates, amirite!!
Hey, I was 200% willing to buy the F8 blu-ray. The "Complete Fast & Furious Box Set" even had the foresight to include a spot in it to tuck the F8 disc in it when it would come out, 6 months in the future. But buying the F8 blu-ray, a disc I'll never watch because there exists a better version but just buy to get a code... to watch the "full version" of it online? What? Why would I do that? Why wouldn't I just pirate it, if I'm just paying money to buy a code to watch an online version I'm just streaming?
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Watching a DVD on a good HD TV vs. Blu-ray is like night and day. I don't mind the 4k movement. What is frustrating is the streaming movement not keeping up with the quality that's able to be delivered.

What do I mean? You watch a 4K blu-ray, you aren't seeing any compression. You're getting the raw movie, in full quality, at only the limits of your player and TV. There exists no streaming outlet right now that is able to deliver that same guaranteed solid quality without compression via streaming. At all. And if your daughter or buddy starts screwing around on FB on your wi-fi connection while you're watching your movie, it's going to dip down even more.
Well there you go. I still want to transition into 4K myself.

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Last album I bought was Trevor Something's "Synthetic Love". Mainly because I wanted to support the artist.
Mine was Silversun Pickups' "Swoon". The one I bought in 2014 for the new track was Soundgarden's "Superunknown".
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(Just give it about...30 years...CDs will revive with the new wave of Them Young Hipsters)
I don't see any CD renaissance coming. CD's are just data burned into a disc, same as an .MP3 file on a thumb drive (every track on a CD is just an uncompressed WAV file, literally)... records are more tactile. A record player is "feeling" the music it's playing, the needle doing its thing.

It's all bullsh**, of course. Invest in a good, $2,000 Bose sound system, and play those HQ .MP3s at the right level, I guarantee it will sound better.
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Old 02-03-2018, 04:42 AM   #10
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Aren't records really big right now too?


(Just give it about...30 years...CDs will revive with the new wave of Them Young Hipsters)
It's kinda trippy seeing vinyls in stores and USB record players, that isn't these small niche hipster corner shops.
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Hm, I still buy CDs...I just like having physical copies of things. If your music player or computer or whatever you use for your digital media conks out on you, at least you have the originals to listen to. I also like having cd jacket with the music information and all that stuff for some reason.

I don't think that's going to die out here in Japan, though anytime soon. They still have movie rental shops and CD rentals are a thing here. Ironically, it's still illegal for shops to rent out video games here to my knowledge...thanks Nintendo. >_>

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Man, I just bought a new CD a month ago.
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Hm, I still buy CDs...I just like having physical copies of things. If your music player or computer or whatever you use for your digital media conks out on you, at least you have the originals to listen to. I also like having cd jacket with the music information and all that stuff for some reason.

I don't think that's going to die out here in Japan, though anytime soon. They still have movie rental shops and CD rentals are a thing here. Ironically, it's still illegal for shops to rent out video games here to my knowledge...thanks Nintendo. >_>
Buy external hard drives, which are so big in sizes - like terra sizes, so huge really. Do backup, it saves space too; those CDs are cluttering mess I'm happy to not have at all.

Same with pics you took from your camera and phone. Do people still print ALL of them and put in album books? Nope. You'd print only the necessary ones and the rest goes into the hard drives.

Digital is the future indeed.
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Old 02-03-2018, 06:02 AM   #14
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I haven't bought many CDs in my life. By the time I got really interested in music, youtube was already around. And nowadays with services like Spotify, I'm even less interested in buying CDs.

Some people collect CDs, though. Many metalheads I've talked to collect CDs and vinyls. So clearly there's still a lot of market for them.
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It's probably worth pointing out that... well, you know what Best Buy will also stop selling in about one or two years? Everything.
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CD's still do OK for artists mainly aimed at older audiences.
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That's a shame. It's been years since I bought one, so I guess it's understandable if many aren't buying, but at the same time, if there's something I really want to own I like having an official hard copy. (Not that those stores are the only source or that they have any say in what gets a hard copy produced of not.)

As if digital is even much cheaper though, right... Digital (be is music, in-game purchases, or whatever) kind of annoys me though in regard to it being such easy money for the seller when it costs them nothing to produce other than the original digital file itself.

As far as music goes, if digital, forget it, I'll just fave it for free on YouTube.
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Old 02-03-2018, 09:44 PM   #18
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I don't see any CD renaissance coming. CD's are just data burned into a disc, same as an .MP3 file on a thumb drive (every track on a CD is just an uncompressed WAV file, literally)... records are more tactile. A record player is "feeling" the music it's playing, the needle doing its thing.

It's all bullsh**, of course. Invest in a good, $2,000 Bose sound system, and play those HQ .MP3s at the right level, I guarantee it will sound better.
Exactly, CDs are a digital format so nostalgia will be a bit harder, you can argue with analog music like LPs and Casettes it's a different "feel".

I could see DVD nostalgia as many movies had cool ass menus that their upgrades didn't.

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Watching a DVD on a good HD TV vs. Blu-ray is like night and day. I don't mind the 4k movement. What is frustrating is the streaming movement not keeping up with the quality that's able to be delivered.
While true, it's also all about convenience and people prefer it over quality, but the general audience isn't as educated or even notices some of the differences that HDR 4k offers, and you can't blame them, I mean it's there but to spend money on a new tv and buy your movies again for a such a small difference to them is just not worth it.

Netflix quality is good enough and better for them. Videophiles are feeling the same thing audiophiles have for 18 years now. With better music formats people preferred CDs, the Super CD and whatever formats failed in favor to sh-tty quality MP3s. Even today people prefer to listen from youtube than get uncompressed music files, hell it's even difficult to torrent uncompressed files because people prefer the compressed files that take less HDD space on the computers.

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What worries me about a completely digitialization of all media is they might stop producing alot of bonus features since that's whats generally used to sell DVDs.
Bonus content died a long time ago, big releases barely include anything. In the early days of the DVD format it was a huge selling point and they marketed it like crazy. What they found out after a few years that most people didn't give a damn about them so that's also why they've gotten lazy over the years. Sucks for the people who liked them as well as commentary tracks but they realized the mass consumer didn't care and Joe Neckbeard on the internet just wasn't as important to them anymore.

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If you go to a concert, it's still fun to buy a CD and get it signed by the artist(s).
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God bless pirates, amirite!!
Piracy is great, it has kept in existence so many things that would've been lost to time.

It'll always exist and all the naysayers will always be proven wrong especially in the digital only era where consumers don't control what will be available or not, it's more important than it's ever been.
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Bonus content died a long time ago, big releases barely include anything. In the early days of the DVD format it was a huge selling point and they marketed it like crazy. What they found out after a few years that most people didn't give a damn about them so that's also why they've gotten lazy over the years.

Piracy is great, it has kept in existence so many things that would've been lost to time.
Some releases are still packed with content though. Criterion releases are notorious for being the best example for this. And LET'S NOT FORGET the time I picked up American Pie: The Universal 100th Anniversary Edition to discover there was over 5 hours of behind the scenes content. I was blown away. There was pretty much an entirely seperate cut of American Pie 2 included which featured Stifler's dad, Heather and Oz breaking up and cheating on each other... it was like I was in bizarro world watching a whole different movie. Not to mention they included stuff like interviewing the FX guys on how they perfected "floating pubic hair" for the gag in part 3, how they made a "hump rig" for the dog in Wedding... It was literally the greatest 5 hours of my life.

Re: Piracy... Hell yeah, homie. I havent even watched television since Season 3 of Smallville once I figured out how to torrent. TV with no commercials and on my own time? Yes, please! And yeah, tons of niche shows would be lost to the ages by now had it not been for pirates.

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People saw DVDs as the "perfect" format when it came out, it was better than VHS by a lot so it made sense to upgrade those huge VHS collections, once BR came out they felt burned, as did I. Sure it looked better but to re-buy everything?

And when it comes to music it's not even a physical vs digital thing, they prefer an inferior audio format because it's more convenient and they don't care about the "upgrade".
I know I'll get called out on this but I feel we've reached the cap of quality that matters. At this point, things can become clearer, sure, but our eyes don't pick up the difference unless we're seated closer to the screen, and most people don't sit that close. The leap of quality between DVD and Bluray is considerable. Between lossless 1080p and 4k? Not so much (at a comfortable distance.)

As for music... I'd love to collect Vinyl releases strictly for their large art. But digital will always be my preferred method, so there's no real incentive outside their packaging for me.
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